Light air? Maybe he should be roll tacking?
--
----
Steve
S/V Pony Express

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Cappy... but if you have to back a jib to get a decent tack there are
other
things grossly wrong with your boat or sailing skills. Look.... backing a
jib should only be utilized to assist a tack in light airs where forward
speed is impaired by sea state or obstructions. Think about this because
I
speak as a full keeler here and I'd be friggin embarrassed to have to back
a
friggin' jib on a fin keeler to execute a tack... in any wind speed.!!!

CM

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
|
| No it won't provided the boat is swung smartly around and
| the jib is only backed for a second or two. What a backed jib
| takes away in its backing it gives back to the mainsail which still
| pulls until the release of the jib's windward sheet. This is why
| the main 'Pops' over the second the windward jib sheet is released.
|
| Try learning how to tack like a real sailor and you might be more
| successful at it.
|
| "Oz1" wrote in message
...
| On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 23:07:26 +0100, "Donal"
| wrote:
|
|
| "Doug Miller" wrote in message
| ...
| sailed with another fellow today, who suggested that during the
tack,
that
| i
| not pull the head sail sheet in too soon, but leave the sail full
as
the
| boat swings around, and then only after establishing new heading,
trim the
| sail.
|
| only got to try it once before a little pop up thunderstorm
arrived,
| putting
| us back into the dock. seemed to make an improvement on my tack.
will
| have
| to wait for another chance to try.
|
| comments?
|
|
| There are two things going on here. One is that if you leave the
jenny
| alone, it will "back" as the boat tacks. The wind will then push
the
poat
| through the tack. As the boat goes through the wind, you let the
sheet
fo
| free.
|
| Backing the jib will slow the boat!
|
| The second is a little more difficult to explain. It is easier to
gain
| speed at 90 degrees to the wind than at 35 degrees(apparent). So
when
you
| tack, the helmsman will tack a bit further than necessary, so that
he
can
| gain speed. Therefore, you don't immediately sheet the jenny flat.
The
| helmsman will bear away from the wind to build up speed. You
gradually
| sheet the jenny in, as the boat heads up onto the new course.
|
|
| If my explanation isn't clear, then ask again.
|
|
| Regards
|
|
| Donal
|
|
|
| Oz1...of the 3 twins.
| I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.
|
|

Try a roll tack on my boat and you wouldn't spill a full glass of beer with
all hands to one side.

Must be a fin keeler thing.... :-D

CM

"Pony Express" wrote in message
...
| Light air? Maybe he should be roll tacking?
| --
| ----
| Steve
| S/V Pony Express
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| Cappy... but if you have to back a jib to get a decent tack there are
| other
| things grossly wrong with your boat or sailing skills. Look.... backing
a
| jib should only be utilized to assist a tack in light airs where forward
| speed is impaired by sea state or obstructions. Think about this
because
| I
| speak as a full keeler here and I'd be friggin embarrassed to have to
back
| a
| friggin' jib on a fin keeler to execute a tack... in any wind speed.!!!
|
| CM
|
| "Simple Simon" wrote in message
| ...
| |
| | No it won't provided the boat is swung smartly around and
| | the jib is only backed for a second or two. What a backed jib
| | takes away in its backing it gives back to the mainsail which still
| | pulls until the release of the jib's windward sheet. This is why
| | the main 'Pops' over the second the windward jib sheet is released.
| |
| | Try learning how to tack like a real sailor and you might be more
| | successful at it.
| |
| | "Oz1" wrote in message
| ...
| | On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 23:07:26 +0100, "Donal"
| | wrote:
| |
| |
| | "Doug Miller" wrote in message
| | ...
| | sailed with another fellow today, who suggested that during the
| tack,
| that
| | i
| | not pull the head sail sheet in too soon, but leave the sail full
| as
| the
| | boat swings around, and then only after establishing new heading,
| trim the
| | sail.
| |
| | only got to try it once before a little pop up thunderstorm
| arrived,
| | putting
| | us back into the dock. seemed to make an improvement on my tack.
| will
| | have
| | to wait for another chance to try.
| |
| | comments?
| |
| |
| | There are two things going on here. One is that if you leave the
| jenny
| | alone, it will "back" as the boat tacks. The wind will then push
| the
| poat
| | through the tack. As the boat goes through the wind, you let the
| sheet
| fo
| | free.
| |
| | Backing the jib will slow the boat!
| |
| | The second is a little more difficult to explain. It is easier to
| gain
| | speed at 90 degrees to the wind than at 35 degrees(apparent). So
| when
| you
| | tack, the helmsman will tack a bit further than necessary, so that
| he
| can
| | gain speed. Therefore, you don't immediately sheet the jenny flat.
| The
| | helmsman will bear away from the wind to build up speed. You
| gradually
| | sheet the jenny in, as the boat heads up onto the new course.
| |
| |
| | If my explanation isn't clear, then ask again.
| |
| |
| | Regards
| |
| |
| | Donal
| |
| |
| |
| | Oz1...of the 3 twins.
| | I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.
| |
| |
|
|
|

On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 22:23:27 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote this crap:

Try a roll tack on my boat and you wouldn't spill a full glass of beer with
all hands to one side.

Hard to tack while at anchor.




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