No.

The question is now moot, but your local time was set for just before midnight - as I'm
reading this it is about 7PM in Singapore.

There must be some part of the world where this computer is correct - where are you headed
now?

-jeff



"Michael" wrote in message
...
That better now?
Michael

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
Your clock has the right local time but it has PDT for the timezone - it
should be +8,
not -7

"Michael" wrote in message
...
Just called the front desk and it's 7:18AM 27Jun03 Singapore Time

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
I'm losing track - are you in Singapore now? Your last post said:
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 06:02:07 -0700

I can believe in the Far East its Friday morning now, but the timezone
should be something
like +11, not -7, which is PDT. It looks like you changed the clock
but
not the timezone.

"Michael" wrote in message
...
It should be right now. I noticed that and made the change when the
thread
started. Aren't these supposed to convert automatically when you
hook
up to
a new local system?

Michael

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
Mike - your clock is wrong also - I was giving you a break since
you've
crossed so many
time zones lately. Everyone else is showing correctly.

I normally don't care much about this stuff, but I usually display
newsgroups in order of
time posted, not by threads. If your date is early, your message
sits
on
the top for a
while; if you're late, you show way down on the list and I often
don't
see
it. Donal's
posts have a different problem - his clock seems to be right, but
his
posts take a few
hours to cross the pond.

-jeff


"Michael" wrote in message
...
Mine is 5:15AM on the 27th

"Daniel Thompson" wrote in message
...
My clock *is* set to the right time. I'm guessing you haven't
quite
understood the concept of timezones: -0700?


"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
I don't mind the cross post that much - but you could set
your
clock
to
the right time.


"Daniel Thompson" wrote in message
...

"TopCat" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 09:20:03 -0700, "Daniel Thompson"
wrote:

Is this insane?

I have some experience in dinghy sailing and do indeed
have
a
qualification - whoopee - in this area.

I have spent a lot of my youth on yachts - generally my
Grandad's
32
foot
Westerly - but have not, until now, taken as much
interest
as
my
brother,
and do not have a proverbial 'scoobie' when it comes to
maps
and
charts.

I do however have £25000 and a moderate and mobile
income.

I will not be single for the rest of my life.

I will not have zero commitment for a two year period
at
any
other
time
in
my life.

I do not want to waste a year cow-towing to some jumped
up
lilttle
Hitler
and his crew of merry - force you to do the bad jobs -
men.

This is why I want my own yacht and why I want it now.

Do you think it is realistic to expect to find a
personally
compatible
Yachtmaster with a high degree of experience who would
be
prepared
to
spend
six months teaching me to sail my boat.

The destinations on this escapade could be decided by
means
of
a
vote - I
would have the final decision of course - Hitler in
effect
perhaps!

Daniel.


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First off please do not cross post, it is bad practice,
many
people
have filters on cross posted posts so you already have
cut
the
number
of responses to this question.

If you have experience of dinghy sailing, and experience
crewing
your
grandfathers boat, 6 months training is highly unlikely
to
be
required.

Navigation can be learned shore side and there are many
schools
who
will offer you this service. If you feel better take
along
an
experienced skipper for a few trips, then start taking
her
out
yourself, build up you trips in stages.

Your dinghy experience has taught you boat handling and
how
to
sail,
you just need to transfer you skills upward now, to be
fair
this
in
my
opinion is the easier way round, someone with no dinghy
experience
would probably need help on their first trips in a
dinghy.

Buy it, do some navigation training, it is not that
difficult
really,
and start sailing, there is no law that says your first
season
must
be
littered with extended cruises, sail around the harbour
mouth
until
you feel confident in venturing further.

Do it in you time, you will learn far more than trying
to
transfer
someone elses experience into your own.

Fair Winds.......
Julian

http://www.topcatsail.co.uk


No more cross posting for me.

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Mine is 5:15AM on the 27th

"Daniel Thompson" wrote in message
...
My clock *is* set to the right time. I'm guessing you haven't quite
understood the concept of timezones: -0700?


"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
I don't mind the cross post that much - but you could set your clock to
the right time.


"Daniel Thompson" wrote in message
...

"TopCat" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 09:20:03 -0700, "Daniel Thompson"
wrote:

Is this insane?

I have some experience in dinghy sailing and do indeed have a
qualification - whoopee - in this area.

I have spent a lot of my youth on yachts - generally my Grandad's
32
foot
Westerly - but have not, until now, taken as much interest as my
brother,
and do not have a proverbial 'scoobie' when it comes to maps and
charts.

I do however have £25000 and a moderate and mobile income.

I will not be single for the rest of my life.

I will not have zero commitment for a two year period at any other
time
in
my life.

I do not want to waste a year cow-towing to some jumped up lilttle
Hitler
and his crew of merry - force you to do the bad jobs - men.

This is why I want my own yacht and why I want it now.

Do you think it is realistic to expect to find a personally
compatible
Yachtmaster with a high degree of experience who would be prepared
to
spend
six months teaching me to sail my boat.

The destinations on this escapade could be decided by means of a
vote - I
would have the final decision of course - Hitler in effect perhaps!

Daniel.


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First off please do not cross post, it is bad practice, many people
have filters on cross posted posts so you already have cut the
number
of responses to this question.

If you have experience of dinghy sailing, and experience crewing
your
grandfathers boat, 6 months training is highly unlikely to be
required.

Navigation can be learned shore side and there are many schools who
will offer you this service. If you feel better take along an
experienced skipper for a few trips, then start taking her out
yourself, build up you trips in stages.

Your dinghy experience has taught you boat handling and how to sail,
you just need to transfer you skills upward now, to be fair this in
my
opinion is the easier way round, someone with no dinghy experience
would probably need help on their first trips in a dinghy.

Buy it, do some navigation training, it is not that difficult
really,
and start sailing, there is no law that says your first season must
be
littered with extended cruises, sail around the harbour mouth until
you feel confident in venturing further.

Do it in you time, you will learn far more than trying to transfer
someone elses experience into your own.

Fair Winds.......
Julian

http://www.topcatsail.co.uk


No more cross posting for me.

Thanks for the confidence building Julian!


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Just called the front desk and it's 7:18AM 27Jun03 Singapore Time

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
I'm losing track - are you in Singapore now? Your last post said:
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 06:02:07 -0700

I can believe in the Far East its Friday morning now, but the timezone
should be something
like +11, not -7, which is PDT. It looks like you changed the clock but
not the timezone.

"Michael" wrote in message
...
It should be right now. I noticed that and made the change when the
thread
started. Aren't these supposed to convert automatically when you hook
up to
a new local system?

Michael

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
Mike - your clock is wrong also - I was giving you a break since
you've
crossed so many
time zones lately. Everyone else is showing correctly.

I normally don't care much about this stuff, but I usually display
newsgroups in order of
time posted, not by threads. If your date is early, your message sits
on
the top for a
while; if you're late, you show way down on the list and I often don't
see
it. Donal's
posts have a different problem - his clock seems to be right, but his
posts take a few
hours to cross the pond.

-jeff


"Michael" wrote in message
...
Mine is 5:15AM on the 27th

"Daniel Thompson" wrote in message
...
My clock *is* set to the right time. I'm guessing you haven't
quite
understood the concept of timezones: -0700?


"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
I don't mind the cross post that much - but you could set your
clock
to
the right time.


"Daniel Thompson" wrote in message
...

"TopCat" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 09:20:03 -0700, "Daniel Thompson"
wrote:

Is this insane?

I have some experience in dinghy sailing and do indeed have
a
qualification - whoopee - in this area.

I have spent a lot of my youth on yachts - generally my
Grandad's
32
foot
Westerly - but have not, until now, taken as much interest
as
my
brother,
and do not have a proverbial 'scoobie' when it comes to
maps
and
charts.

I do however have £25000 and a moderate and mobile income.

I will not be single for the rest of my life.

I will not have zero commitment for a two year period at
any
other
time
in
my life.

I do not want to waste a year cow-towing to some jumped up
lilttle
Hitler
and his crew of merry - force you to do the bad jobs - men.

This is why I want my own yacht and why I want it now.

Do you think it is realistic to expect to find a personally
compatible
Yachtmaster with a high degree of experience who would be
prepared
to
spend
six months teaching me to sail my boat.

The destinations on this escapade could be decided by means
of
a
vote - I
would have the final decision of course - Hitler in effect
perhaps!

Daniel.


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First off please do not cross post, it is bad practice, many
people
have filters on cross posted posts so you already have cut
the
number
of responses to this question.

If you have experience of dinghy sailing, and experience
crewing
your
grandfathers boat, 6 months training is highly unlikely to
be
required.

Navigation can be learned shore side and there are many
schools
who
will offer you this service. If you feel better take along
an
experienced skipper for a few trips, then start taking her
out
yourself, build up you trips in stages.

Your dinghy experience has taught you boat handling and how
to
sail,
you just need to transfer you skills upward now, to be fair
this
in
my
opinion is the easier way round, someone with no dinghy
experience
would probably need help on their first trips in a dinghy.

Buy it, do some navigation training, it is not that
difficult
really,
and start sailing, there is no law that says your first
season
must
be
littered with extended cruises, sail around the harbour
mouth
until
you feel confident in venturing further.

Do it in you time, you will learn far more than trying to
transfer
someone elses experience into your own.

Fair Winds.......
Julian

http://www.topcatsail.co.uk


No more cross posting for me.

Thanks for the confidence building Julian!


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That better now?
Michael

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
Your clock has the right local time but it has PDT for the timezone - it
should be +8,
not -7

"Michael" wrote in message
...
Just called the front desk and it's 7:18AM 27Jun03 Singapore Time

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
I'm losing track - are you in Singapore now? Your last post said:
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 06:02:07 -0700

I can believe in the Far East its Friday morning now, but the timezone
should be something
like +11, not -7, which is PDT. It looks like you changed the clock
but
not the timezone.

"Michael" wrote in message
...
It should be right now. I noticed that and made the change when the
thread
started. Aren't these supposed to convert automatically when you
hook
up to
a new local system?

Michael

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
Mike - your clock is wrong also - I was giving you a break since
you've
crossed so many
time zones lately. Everyone else is showing correctly.

I normally don't care much about this stuff, but I usually display
newsgroups in order of
time posted, not by threads. If your date is early, your message
sits
on
the top for a
while; if you're late, you show way down on the list and I often
don't
see
it. Donal's
posts have a different problem - his clock seems to be right, but
his
posts take a few
hours to cross the pond.

-jeff


"Michael" wrote in message
...
Mine is 5:15AM on the 27th

"Daniel Thompson" wrote in message
...
My clock *is* set to the right time. I'm guessing you haven't
quite
understood the concept of timezones: -0700?


"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
I don't mind the cross post that much - but you could set
your
clock
to
the right time.


"Daniel Thompson" wrote in message
...

"TopCat" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 09:20:03 -0700, "Daniel Thompson"
wrote:

Is this insane?

I have some experience in dinghy sailing and do indeed
have
a
qualification - whoopee - in this area.

I have spent a lot of my youth on yachts - generally my
Grandad's
32
foot
Westerly - but have not, until now, taken as much
interest
as
my
brother,
and do not have a proverbial 'scoobie' when it comes to
maps
and
charts.

I do however have £25000 and a moderate and mobile
income.

I will not be single for the rest of my life.

I will not have zero commitment for a two year period
at
any
other
time
in
my life.

I do not want to waste a year cow-towing to some jumped
up
lilttle
Hitler
and his crew of merry - force you to do the bad jobs -
men.

This is why I want my own yacht and why I want it now.

Do you think it is realistic to expect to find a
personally
compatible
Yachtmaster with a high degree of experience who would
be
prepared
to
spend
six months teaching me to sail my boat.

The destinations on this escapade could be decided by
means
of
a
vote - I
would have the final decision of course - Hitler in
effect
perhaps!

Daniel.


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First off please do not cross post, it is bad practice,
many
people
have filters on cross posted posts so you already have
cut
the
number
of responses to this question.

If you have experience of dinghy sailing, and experience
crewing
your
grandfathers boat, 6 months training is highly unlikely
to
be
required.

Navigation can be learned shore side and there are many
schools
who
will offer you this service. If you feel better take
along
an
experienced skipper for a few trips, then start taking
her
out
yourself, build up you trips in stages.

Your dinghy experience has taught you boat handling and
how
to
sail,
you just need to transfer you skills upward now, to be
fair
this
in
my
opinion is the easier way round, someone with no dinghy
experience
would probably need help on their first trips in a
dinghy.

Buy it, do some navigation training, it is not that
difficult
really,
and start sailing, there is no law that says your first
season
must
be
littered with extended cruises, sail around the harbour
mouth
until
you feel confident in venturing further.

Do it in you time, you will learn far more than trying
to
transfer
someone elses experience into your own.

Fair Winds.......
Julian

http://www.topcatsail.co.uk


No more cross posting for me.

Thanks for the confidence building Julian!


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The delay is due to translating Donal's posts into English.

Scotty'

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
Mike - your clock is wrong also - I was giving you a break since you've
crossed so many
time zones lately. Everyone else is showing correctly.

I normally don't care much about this stuff, but I usually display
newsgroups in order of
time posted, not by threads. If your date is early, your message sits on
the top for a
while; if you're late, you show way down on the list and I often don't see
it. Donal's
posts have a different problem - his clock seems to be right, but his
posts take a few
hours to cross the pond.

-jeff


"Michael" wrote in message
...
Mine is 5:15AM on the 27th

"Daniel Thompson" wrote in message
...
My clock *is* set to the right time. I'm guessing you haven't quite
understood the concept of timezones: -0700?


"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
I don't mind the cross post that much - but you could set your clock
to
the right time.


"Daniel Thompson" wrote in message
...

"TopCat" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 09:20:03 -0700, "Daniel Thompson"
wrote:

Is this insane?

I have some experience in dinghy sailing and do indeed have a
qualification - whoopee - in this area.

I have spent a lot of my youth on yachts - generally my
Grandad's
32
foot
Westerly - but have not, until now, taken as much interest as
my
brother,
and do not have a proverbial 'scoobie' when it comes to maps
and
charts.

I do however have £25000 and a moderate and mobile income.

I will not be single for the rest of my life.

I will not have zero commitment for a two year period at any
other
time
in
my life.

I do not want to waste a year cow-towing to some jumped up
lilttle
Hitler
and his crew of merry - force you to do the bad jobs - men.

This is why I want my own yacht and why I want it now.

Do you think it is realistic to expect to find a personally
compatible
Yachtmaster with a high degree of experience who would be
prepared
to
spend
six months teaching me to sail my boat.

The destinations on this escapade could be decided by means of
a
vote - I
would have the final decision of course - Hitler in effect
perhaps!

Daniel.


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First off please do not cross post, it is bad practice, many
people
have filters on cross posted posts so you already have cut the
number
of responses to this question.

If you have experience of dinghy sailing, and experience crewing
your
grandfathers boat, 6 months training is highly unlikely to be
required.

Navigation can be learned shore side and there are many schools
who
will offer you this service. If you feel better take along an
experienced skipper for a few trips, then start taking her out
yourself, build up you trips in stages.

Your dinghy experience has taught you boat handling and how to
sail,
you just need to transfer you skills upward now, to be fair this
in
my
opinion is the easier way round, someone with no dinghy
experience
would probably need help on their first trips in a dinghy.

Buy it, do some navigation training, it is not that difficult
really,
and start sailing, there is no law that says your first season
must
be
littered with extended cruises, sail around the harbour mouth
until
you feel confident in venturing further.

Do it in you time, you will learn far more than trying to
transfer
someone elses experience into your own.

Fair Winds.......
Julian

http://www.topcatsail.co.uk


No more cross posting for me.

Thanks for the confidence building Julian!


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Some folkes can't get off unless they are on the bottom, others live their entire lives on the bottom.

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message ...
And stop bottom posting. It's RUDE!

Scott Vernon
Plowville PA __/)__/)__

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
I don't mind the cross post that much - but you could set your clock to
the right time.


"Daniel Thompson" wrote in message
...

"TopCat" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 09:20:03 -0700, "Daniel Thompson"
wrote:

Is this insane?

I have some experience in dinghy sailing and do indeed have a
qualification - whoopee - in this area.

I have spent a lot of my youth on yachts - generally my Grandad's 32
foot
Westerly - but have not, until now, taken as much interest as my
brother,
and do not have a proverbial 'scoobie' when it comes to maps and
charts.

I do however have £25000 and a moderate and mobile income.

I will not be single for the rest of my life.

I will not have zero commitment for a two year period at any other
time
in
my life.

I do not want to waste a year cow-towing to some jumped up lilttle
Hitler
and his crew of merry - force you to do the bad jobs - men.

This is why I want my own yacht and why I want it now.

Do you think it is realistic to expect to find a personally
compatible
Yachtmaster with a high degree of experience who would be prepared
to
spend
six months teaching me to sail my boat.

The destinations on this escapade could be decided by means of a
vote - I
would have the final decision of course - Hitler in effect perhaps!

Daniel.


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First off please do not cross post, it is bad practice, many people
have filters on cross posted posts so you already have cut the number
of responses to this question.

If you have experience of dinghy sailing, and experience crewing your
grandfathers boat, 6 months training is highly unlikely to be
required.

Navigation can be learned shore side and there are many schools who
will offer you this service. If you feel better take along an
experienced skipper for a few trips, then start taking her out
yourself, build up you trips in stages.

Your dinghy experience has taught you boat handling and how to sail,
you just need to transfer you skills upward now, to be fair this in my
opinion is the easier way round, someone with no dinghy experience
would probably need help on their first trips in a dinghy.

Buy it, do some navigation training, it is not that difficult really,
and start sailing, there is no law that says your first season must be
littered with extended cruises, sail around the harbour mouth until
you feel confident in venturing further.

Do it in you time, you will learn far more than trying to transfer
someone elses experience into your own.

Fair Winds.......
Julian

http://www.topcatsail.co.uk


No more cross posting for me.

Thanks for the confidence building Julian!


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Which Type are you??????

CM

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entire lives on the bottom.