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Oz1 wrote: I'm sure Sir Peter Blakes widow would agree. He was shot because he pulled a gun, no gun, no dead hero, just an insurance claim to replace some electronics. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. Well I'm not sure because i don't remember the name but there was an old couple about 1994-5 in panama that anchored off of a prison island and were boarded by some escapees... they leave these people to walk the island- you'd have to be a fool to anchor there in the first place - and when they were boarded the old man pulled a gun and told them to stop. he did not fire. he was killed in the process. Is this the man you are talking about? You are obviously of the weaker mindset and would never be welcomed aboard my ships. Down unders laws against guns proved that if you don't have guns you get more crime. Georgia has a town that requires every man over a certain age to be armed and they have no crime. You are obviously just a weak fool that likes to be led. I am a strong man that takes care of business. i came here before to find insolence like you then. I am not surprised that arm chair want-to-bes like you are still here. Grow some balls and then we will be on an equal field to discuss things. Until then, neither i nor anyone else with any testosterone would ever consider you to be a man enough to bother conversing with and in person i would probably ignore you at best. I don't respect skinny little weasel types that have no opinions that are not given to them or can't stand up for themselves. My stuff is mine and if you ever try to take it I will take your life... and probably enjoy doing it. -- Danny Taddei e-mail me at (remove no-worms-in-a-) There's a horizon on every side. Let your soul inside be the guide and lead the way. http://members.cox.net/sandycove/index.html |
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Danny Taddei wrote in message ...
Oz1 wrote: I'm sure Sir Peter Blakes widow would agree. He was shot because he pulled a gun, no gun, no dead hero, just an insurance claim to replace some electronics. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. Well I'm not sure because i don't remember the name but there was an old couple about 1994-5 in panama that anchored off of a prison island and were boarded by some escapees... they leave these people to walk the island- you'd have to be a fool to anchor there in the first place - and when they were boarded the old man pulled a gun and told them to stop. he did not fire. he was killed in the process. Is this the man you are talking about? You are obviously of the weaker mindset and would never be welcomed aboard my ships. Down unders laws against guns proved that if you don't have guns you get more crime. [snip] Nothing of the kind. The most you can say is that there is no relationship between laws restricting gun ownership and a decrease in crime. That's a lot different from saying that laws restricting ownership cause more crime. Still, I expect subtle points of statistics are beyond your comprehension. They seem to be beyond Oz's as well, but that's not news. I've owned firearms all my life and am entirely capable of building my own if I want to, so don't give me any of your macho crap. A real human being is one who treats his/her fellows with the same courtesy and respect as they wish to recieve. People like you are slowly getting culled out of the gene pool and not before time either. You're a waste of time & space. I can't imagine why any sensible person would want to be on one of your dinghies. Not more than once, anyway. Peter Wiley |
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Spoken like a true idiot. Keep your guns, and stay away from
me. I'm not paranoid, I've never had any trouble, and I'm not a "liberal." You, however, are a reactionary, paraniod fool. Fortunately, people like you implode on their own. Have a nice day. "Danny Taddei" wrote in message ... Spoken like a true liberal! Just what do you think a bad guy is going to do after he takes your stuff? Is he going to say thanks and tell you that is has been nice meeting you and ask you to please don't tell anyone? In fact, guns have stopped the bad guys. I have stopped the bad guys on more occasions then one. I have absolutely no problem with that and actually feel really good about helping to rid the world of slime that would have only hurt another person next. the constables were very happy too. You can take your bend over and take it in the butt attitude and go back to your fearful cave. I prefer to take care of myself and family before worrying about offending the weak cry babies of the world. The only thing foolish about having a gun on board is if you decided not to use it should the need rise! Jonathan Ganz wrote: Carrying guns on a boat is a foolish and dangerous thing to do. You're not going to be able to stop the really bad guys with your puny little weapons. You're just inviting people to shoot back. Let them take your crap and then get some more. "Danny Taddei" wrote in message ... this has been a truly fun thread to read but if you want a practical answer to your question you will likely have to detail the question to a specific area. Im the bahamas and miami you won't have an eye batted at you for carrying guns of just about any kind. People there know that if you are out and something happens you need to be able to take care of yourself. I was stopped mid gulf stream but the uscg. they asked why I had a 357 and I said to shot anyone that got on board. They asked why I had a shotgun and I said to stop anyone trying to get on board. they asked why I was carrying a SKS10 assault rifle and I said to shot anyone I needed to hit that was out of range of my shotgun and they said - OK. In Golfito Costa Rica the port captain asked if I had any guns. I told him no and then he gave me a lecture about why I should and trying to make me go out and by one with his help. In California I had a gun on board and someone saw it. Within 20 minutes I had local police and the harbour patrol on my boat illegally to search it. I had to radio the uscg to have them intervene. it just depends on the area you are in to know how people will react to you having guns on board. Just remember that it is a lot easier to be judged by 12 then it is to get carried by 6. Vito wrote: Do y'all mount those new 25mm rapid fire guns or will a "Ma Duece" or simply a .30 cal do? Seriously, what are the legal and technical ramifications of firearms on yachts? TIA Vito -- Danny Taddei e-mail me at (remove no-worms-in-a-) There's a horizon on every side. Let your soul inside be the guide and lead the way. http://members.cox.net/sandycove/index.html -- Danny Taddei e-mail me at (remove no-worms-in-a-) There's a horizon on every side. Let your soul inside be the guide and lead the way. http://members.cox.net/sandycove/index.html |
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What is with you people. You have obviously never been out of a city
limit. Reactionary and paranoid? How about realistic and knowledgeable. How about having 5 people try to board my boat in Nicaragua and having to protect my wife who happens to be very pretty and their target? How about having ot keep the peace until the coast guard came when 20 cuban rafters were trying to get on my boat after drifting for about 2 weeks? -and if you have never seen people that have had no water for 2 weeks don't ever start to talk to me about that! How about over a dozen incidents that either friends of mine have had or I have had that would have meant death if I had not been armed.... You people are just so inexperienced in the real world that you reek from it. Jonathan Ganz wrote: Spoken like a true idiot. Keep your guns, and stay away from me. I'm not paranoid, I've never had any trouble, and I'm not a "liberal." You, however, are a reactionary, paraniod fool. Fortunately, people like you implode on their own. Have a nice day. "Danny Taddei" wrote in message ... Spoken like a true liberal! Just what do you think a bad guy is going to do after he takes your stuff? Is he going to say thanks and tell you that is has been nice meeting you and ask you to please don't tell anyone? In fact, guns have stopped the bad guys. I have stopped the bad guys on more occasions then one. I have absolutely no problem with that and actually feel really good about helping to rid the world of slime that would have only hurt another person next. the constables were very happy too. You can take your bend over and take it in the butt attitude and go back to your fearful cave. I prefer to take care of myself and family before worrying about offending the weak cry babies of the world. The only thing foolish about having a gun on board is if you decided not to use it should the need rise! Jonathan Ganz wrote: Carrying guns on a boat is a foolish and dangerous thing to do. You're not going to be able to stop the really bad guys with your puny little weapons. You're just inviting people to shoot back. Let them take your crap and then get some more. "Danny Taddei" wrote in message ... this has been a truly fun thread to read but if you want a practical answer to your question you will likely have to detail the question to a specific area. Im the bahamas and miami you won't have an eye batted at you for carrying guns of just about any kind. People there know that if you are out and something happens you need to be able to take care of yourself. I was stopped mid gulf stream but the uscg. they asked why I had a 357 and I said to shot anyone that got on board. They asked why I had a shotgun and I said to stop anyone trying to get on board. they asked why I was carrying a SKS10 assault rifle and I said to shot anyone I needed to hit that was out of range of my shotgun and they said - OK. In Golfito Costa Rica the port captain asked if I had any guns. I told him no and then he gave me a lecture about why I should and trying to make me go out and by one with his help. In California I had a gun on board and someone saw it. Within 20 minutes I had local police and the harbour patrol on my boat illegally to search it. I had to radio the uscg to have them intervene. it just depends on the area you are in to know how people will react to you having guns on board. Just remember that it is a lot easier to be judged by 12 then it is to get carried by 6. Vito wrote: Do y'all mount those new 25mm rapid fire guns or will a "Ma Duece" or simply a .30 cal do? Seriously, what are the legal and technical ramifications of firearms on yachts? TIA Vito -- Danny Taddei e-mail me at (remove no-worms-in-a-) There's a horizon on every side. Let your soul inside be the guide and lead the way. http://members.cox.net/sandycove/index.html -- Danny Taddei e-mail me at (remove no-worms-in-a-) There's a horizon on every side. Let your soul inside be the guide and lead the way. http://members.cox.net/sandycove/index.html -- Danny Taddei e-mail me at (remove no-worms-in-a-) There's a horizon on every side. Let your soul inside be the guide and lead the way. http://members.cox.net/sandycove/index.html |
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Oz1 wrote: Nope, Sir Peter Blake, one of the finest men and sailors ever born. BUT the situation is similar, he came out of the cabin armed when he heard the rest of his crew being bailed up by thieves. He surprised the thieves and was shot before he knew what happened. If he had not had his gun, he would have been robbed and have had to file an insurance claim. Unfortunately his widow had to buy a casket. I am very sorry to hear of your loose of friend but his is not the normal situation one encounters while cruising. Most of the theft is from desperate men with large knives and they board at night when the boaters are asleep. The sound of their walking wakes the owners and the gun on board either arrests the perpetrators or ends the threat. Guns on board are an absolute must if you intend to go anywhere in the not so civilized world. My crew depends on my ability to protect them in all matters. The ships I captain, both while acting as master of a freighter and as master of my own sailboat while cruising have thousands of dollars cash onboard as well as cargo of sorts be it cargo or crew. I venture into waters that don't have anyone looking after it. My advice should be listened to. the man that asked got good advice to protect himself and crew. The whining from here is what I would expect from only the most inexperienced of the most inexperienced. Those thinking that armament is not necessary have reason to be embarrassed and a need to become educated before they set sail. from what I have read in my short look here I am surprised. I thought that an asa site would have sailors with more experience then this does. From what I have read, the vast lot of you here are less experienced then the basic keel boat certificates that i have signed off on. You are obviously of the weaker mindset and would never be welcomed aboard my ships. That's a relief. Down unders laws against guns proved that if you don't have guns you get more crime. Really, you have obviously done a huge amount of research into the subject. Do you know how many people are shot dead in the US each day? please tell me that you are not seriously comparing the number of US gun wounds to australia. If you take an average per capita then we can talk, but I am sure you are well aware that the us is something like 200,000,000 people and ausi is something like 25,000,000 counting tourists. I am fully versed on your laws that went into effect a few years back and the statistic that showed a 400% increase in homicide. Are you aware of it? Anyway, I have wasted enough time on your lot here. You had the nerve to insult my good advice and you have no experience to work with. Since I have no reason to ever befriend you or your type for any reason this will be my last post to you. You lose all that you could learn from me and I can tell that would have been plenty. So, **** off and go sail your beer can races, pat yourself on the back, and dream about being a real man. It is about all you will ever be able to do. Taddy, I'm amazed that a big recording studio mogul like you would have so little respect for others. Bwaaaahahahahahahahahahaaaa f you know about my music then you must also know my reputation as a sailor, pilot and instructor of both, still you think you know more then I? I am sure you do not have any clue and you probably only see little things you can pick up through google. I stay private and to sea for large quantities of time. Anyone and everyone that knows about me knows that. Most know the stories that have appeared about the incidents. if you really knew you would have knowledge of that. So why do you stand tall to me? I can't stand weakness and you are the flagship. BTW, Mogul, Your website is down! Bwaaaahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa! I don't know what web site you are talking about. the only one I have is up and working fine. http://members.cox.net/sandycove/index.html -- Danny Taddei e-mail me at (remove no-worms-in-a-) There's a horizon on every side. Let your soul inside be the guide and lead the way. http://members.cox.net/sandycove/index.html |
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What is with you? Why were in Nicaragua? Are you a member
of the local secret police? Perhaps you should be a bit more careful about where you sail. Why were you so close to obvious scumbag rafters? How could they possibly try to "get on your boat"?? Why not just sail or motor away? You dump them some water and move away. Only an idiot or a fool would get close to desperate people on the high seas. Sounds to me like you have extremely bad karma or are really stupid or foodhardy to put yourself in these "dozen" incident situations. Perhaps you should re-evaluate. I've sailed in a lot of places, and none of them waranted caring firearms. Only a fool would do it. Most places would confiscate them at a minimum. In any case, this is an old, stupid argument. It's more religion than anything else. Keep your f*cking guns and keep the f*ck away from me. You're bad news. "Danny Taddei" wrote in message ... What is with you people. You have obviously never been out of a city limit. Reactionary and paranoid? How about realistic and knowledgeable. How about having 5 people try to board my boat in Nicaragua and having to protect my wife who happens to be very pretty and their target? How about having ot keep the peace until the coast guard came when 20 cuban rafters were trying to get on my boat after drifting for about 2 weeks? -and if you have never seen people that have had no water for 2 weeks don't ever start to talk to me about that! How about over a dozen incidents that either friends of mine have had or I have had that would have meant death if I had not been armed.... You people are just so inexperienced in the real world that you reek from it. Jonathan Ganz wrote: Spoken like a true idiot. Keep your guns, and stay away from me. I'm not paranoid, I've never had any trouble, and I'm not a "liberal." You, however, are a reactionary, paraniod fool. Fortunately, people like you implode on their own. Have a nice day. "Danny Taddei" wrote in message ... Spoken like a true liberal! Just what do you think a bad guy is going to do after he takes your stuff? Is he going to say thanks and tell you that is has been nice meeting you and ask you to please don't tell anyone? In fact, guns have stopped the bad guys. I have stopped the bad guys on more occasions then one. I have absolutely no problem with that and actually feel really good about helping to rid the world of slime that would have only hurt another person next. the constables were very happy too. You can take your bend over and take it in the butt attitude and go back to your fearful cave. I prefer to take care of myself and family before worrying about offending the weak cry babies of the world. The only thing foolish about having a gun on board is if you decided not to use it should the need rise! Jonathan Ganz wrote: Carrying guns on a boat is a foolish and dangerous thing to do. You're not going to be able to stop the really bad guys with your puny little weapons. You're just inviting people to shoot back. Let them take your crap and then get some more. "Danny Taddei" wrote in message ... this has been a truly fun thread to read but if you want a practical answer to your question you will likely have to detail the question to a specific area. Im the bahamas and miami you won't have an eye batted at you for carrying guns of just about any kind. People there know that if you are out and something happens you need to be able to take care of yourself. I was stopped mid gulf stream but the uscg. they asked why I had a 357 and I said to shot anyone that got on board. They asked why I had a shotgun and I said to stop anyone trying to get on board. they asked why I was carrying a SKS10 assault rifle and I said to shot anyone I needed to hit that was out of range of my shotgun and they said - OK. In Golfito Costa Rica the port captain asked if I had any guns. I told him no and then he gave me a lecture about why I should and trying to make me go out and by one with his help. In California I had a gun on board and someone saw it. Within 20 minutes I had local police and the harbour patrol on my boat illegally to search it. I had to radio the uscg to have them intervene. it just depends on the area you are in to know how people will react to you having guns on board. Just remember that it is a lot easier to be judged by 12 then it is to get carried by 6. Vito wrote: Do y'all mount those new 25mm rapid fire guns or will a "Ma Duece" or simply a .30 cal do? Seriously, what are the legal and technical ramifications of firearms on yachts? TIA Vito -- Danny Taddei e-mail me at (remove no-worms-in-a-) There's a horizon on every side. Let your soul inside be the guide and lead the way. http://members.cox.net/sandycove/index.html -- Danny Taddei e-mail me at (remove no-worms-in-a-) There's a horizon on every side. Let your soul inside be the guide and lead the way. http://members.cox.net/sandycove/index.html -- Danny Taddei e-mail me at (remove no-worms-in-a-) There's a horizon on every side. Let your soul inside be the guide and lead the way. http://members.cox.net/sandycove/index.html |
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Well, feel free to leave any time. And don't let the door hit
you in the ass on the way out. What a freak. "Danny Taddei" wrote in message ... Oz1 wrote: Nope, Sir Peter Blake, one of the finest men and sailors ever born. BUT the situation is similar, he came out of the cabin armed when he heard the rest of his crew being bailed up by thieves. He surprised the thieves and was shot before he knew what happened. If he had not had his gun, he would have been robbed and have had to file an insurance claim. Unfortunately his widow had to buy a casket. I am very sorry to hear of your loose of friend but his is not the normal situation one encounters while cruising. Most of the theft is from desperate men with large knives and they board at night when the boaters are asleep. The sound of their walking wakes the owners and the gun on board either arrests the perpetrators or ends the threat. Guns on board are an absolute must if you intend to go anywhere in the not so civilized world. My crew depends on my ability to protect them in all matters. The ships I captain, both while acting as master of a freighter and as master of my own sailboat while cruising have thousands of dollars cash onboard as well as cargo of sorts be it cargo or crew. I venture into waters that don't have anyone looking after it. My advice should be listened to. the man that asked got good advice to protect himself and crew. The whining from here is what I would expect from only the most inexperienced of the most inexperienced. Those thinking that armament is not necessary have reason to be embarrassed and a need to become educated before they set sail. from what I have read in my short look here I am surprised. I thought that an asa site would have sailors with more experience then this does. From what I have read, the vast lot of you here are less experienced then the basic keel boat certificates that i have signed off on. You are obviously of the weaker mindset and would never be welcomed aboard my ships. That's a relief. Down unders laws against guns proved that if you don't have guns you get more crime. Really, you have obviously done a huge amount of research into the subject. Do you know how many people are shot dead in the US each day? please tell me that you are not seriously comparing the number of US gun wounds to australia. If you take an average per capita then we can talk, but I am sure you are well aware that the us is something like 200,000,000 people and ausi is something like 25,000,000 counting tourists. I am fully versed on your laws that went into effect a few years back and the statistic that showed a 400% increase in homicide. Are you aware of it? Anyway, I have wasted enough time on your lot here. You had the nerve to insult my good advice and you have no experience to work with. Since I have no reason to ever befriend you or your type for any reason this will be my last post to you. You lose all that you could learn from me and I can tell that would have been plenty. So, **** off and go sail your beer can races, pat yourself on the back, and dream about being a real man. It is about all you will ever be able to do. Taddy, I'm amazed that a big recording studio mogul like you would have so little respect for others. Bwaaaahahahahahahahahahaaaa f you know about my music then you must also know my reputation as a sailor, pilot and instructor of both, still you think you know more then I? I am sure you do not have any clue and you probably only see little things you can pick up through google. I stay private and to sea for large quantities of time. Anyone and everyone that knows about me knows that. Most know the stories that have appeared about the incidents. if you really knew you would have knowledge of that. So why do you stand tall to me? I can't stand weakness and you are the flagship. BTW, Mogul, Your website is down! Bwaaaahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa! I don't know what web site you are talking about. the only one I have is up and working fine. http://members.cox.net/sandycove/index.html -- Danny Taddei e-mail me at (remove no-worms-in-a-) There's a horizon on every side. Let your soul inside be the guide and lead the way. http://members.cox.net/sandycove/index.html |
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Jonathan Ganz wrote: What is with you? Why were in Nicaragua? Are you a member of the local secret police? Perhaps you should be a bit more careful about where you sail. I was bringing my boat to Miami from Los Angeles and found my sails in need of repair when unexpected 70 knot winds jumped up from 4-7 knots and took out my mainsail. Why were you so close to obvious scumbag rafters? How could they possibly try to "get on your boat"?? When you find men at peril while at sea it is internationally known to sailors that you must stop to help. I was rendering services of life jackets and water while trying to keep them off of my boat thereby forcing me to sail them back to their country. The US will not allow US flag ships to enter US ports with illegal immigrants and the boats with those people will be forced back to the country of the people on board. that would cause hell, trust me. The right thing and only thing to do is control the situation before life threatening situations occur. The best way I have found is to use a guard tactic to keep them off the boat and call the coast guard. That is the recommended way by the USCG by the way and not something I decided. I was about 10 miles west of Gun Cay when I came across the 20. I have seen others but the situation was never as desperate. Why not just sail or motor away? You dump them some water and move away. Only an idiot or a fool would get close to desperate people on the high seas You are wrong, suggesting illegal actions and are not suggesting seamanship. Maybe you are just unaware that if you find someone at sea in peril that it is your legal duty to help. It is. .. Sounds to me like you have extremely bad karma or are really stupid or foodhardy to put yourself in these "dozen" incident situations. Perhaps I just happen to be someone with many 10's of thousands of sea miles along coastal routes. I am. Perhaps you should re-evaluate. I've sailed in a lot of places, and none of them waranted caring firearms. Only a fool would do it. Most places would confiscate them at a minimum. have no idea where you have sailed but that is not the custom. If you enter a port where firearms are restricted, there are 2 practiced procedures. The first and most common is to put an official tape over the gun locker not to be broken until the ship sets sail from the port. The lessor used method is to check your guns with the port captain to retake them upon checking out of the country. There is no other way to deal with it and that is law under the treaty of sea fairing nations 1978. In any case, this is an old, stupid argument. It's more religion than anything else. Keep your f*cking guns and keep the f*ck away from me. You're bad news. You are uneducated, inexperienced and rude as well as a preacher of foolishness. I doubt we will ever cross paths since mine are obviously off the dock. "Danny Taddei" wrote in message ... What is with you people. You have obviously never been out of a city limit. Reactionary and paranoid? How about realistic and knowledgeable. How about having 5 people try to board my boat in Nicaragua and having to protect my wife who happens to be very pretty and their target? How about having ot keep the peace until the coast guard came when 20 cuban rafters were trying to get on my boat after drifting for about 2 weeks? -and if you have never seen people that have had no water for 2 weeks don't ever start to talk to me about that! How about over a dozen incidents that either friends of mine have had or I have had that would have meant death if I had not been armed.... You people are just so inexperienced in the real world that you reek from it. Jonathan Ganz wrote: Spoken like a true idiot. Keep your guns, and stay away from me. I'm not paranoid, I've never had any trouble, and I'm not a "liberal." You, however, are a reactionary, paraniod fool. Fortunately, people like you implode on their own. Have a nice day. "Danny Taddei" wrote in message ... Spoken like a true liberal! Just what do you think a bad guy is going to do after he takes your stuff? Is he going to say thanks and tell you that is has been nice meeting you and ask you to please don't tell anyone? In fact, guns have stopped the bad guys. I have stopped the bad guys on more occasions then one. I have absolutely no problem with that and actually feel really good about helping to rid the world of slime that would have only hurt another person next. the constables were very happy too. You can take your bend over and take it in the butt attitude and go back to your fearful cave. I prefer to take care of myself and family before worrying about offending the weak cry babies of the world. The only thing foolish about having a gun on board is if you decided not to use it should the need rise! Jonathan Ganz wrote: Carrying guns on a boat is a foolish and dangerous thing to do. You're not going to be able to stop the really bad guys with your puny little weapons. You're just inviting people to shoot back. Let them take your crap and then get some more. "Danny Taddei" wrote in message ... this has been a truly fun thread to read but if you want a practical answer to your question you will likely have to detail the question to a specific area. Im the bahamas and miami you won't have an eye batted at you for carrying guns of just about any kind. People there know that if you are out and something happens you need to be able to take care of yourself. I was stopped mid gulf stream but the uscg. they asked why I had a 357 and I said to shot anyone that got on board. They asked why I had a shotgun and I said to stop anyone trying to get on board. they asked why I was carrying a SKS10 assault rifle and I said to shot anyone I needed to hit that was out of range of my shotgun and they said - OK. In Golfito Costa Rica the port captain asked if I had any guns. I told him no and then he gave me a lecture about why I should and trying to make me go out and by one with his help. In California I had a gun on board and someone saw it. Within 20 minutes I had local police and the harbour patrol on my boat illegally to search it. I had to radio the uscg to have them intervene. it just depends on the area you are in to know how people will react to you having guns on board. Just remember that it is a lot easier to be judged by 12 then it is to get carried by 6. Vito wrote: Do y'all mount those new 25mm rapid fire guns or will a "Ma Duece" or simply a .30 cal do? Seriously, what are the legal and technical ramifications of firearms on yachts? TIA Vito -- Danny Taddei e-mail me at (remove no-worms-in-a-) There's a horizon on every side. Let your soul inside be the guide and lead the way. http://members.cox.net/sandycove/index.html -- Danny Taddei e-mail me at (remove no-worms-in-a-) There's a horizon on every side. Let your soul inside be the guide and lead the way. http://members.cox.net/sandycove/index.html -- Danny Taddei e-mail me at (remove no-worms-in-a-) There's a horizon on every side. Let your soul inside be the guide and lead the way. http://members.cox.net/sandycove/index.html -- Danny Taddei e-mail me at (remove no-worms-in-a-) There's a horizon on every side. Let your soul inside be the guide and lead the way. http://members.cox.net/sandycove/index.html |
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I am gone... sailing... I only stopped by hoping to meet some real
sailors here. Since there are none then there is no point to being around here. Freak? You people are an embarrassment. Jonathan Ganz wrote: Well, feel free to leave any time. And don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. What a freak. "Danny Taddei" wrote in message ... Oz1 wrote: Nope, Sir Peter Blake, one of the finest men and sailors ever born. BUT the situation is similar, he came out of the cabin armed when he heard the rest of his crew being bailed up by thieves. He surprised the thieves and was shot before he knew what happened. If he had not had his gun, he would have been robbed and have had to file an insurance claim. Unfortunately his widow had to buy a casket. I am very sorry to hear of your loose of friend but his is not the normal situation one encounters while cruising. Most of the theft is from desperate men with large knives and they board at night when the boaters are asleep. The sound of their walking wakes the owners and the gun on board either arrests the perpetrators or ends the threat. Guns on board are an absolute must if you intend to go anywhere in the not so civilized world. My crew depends on my ability to protect them in all matters. The ships I captain, both while acting as master of a freighter and as master of my own sailboat while cruising have thousands of dollars cash onboard as well as cargo of sorts be it cargo or crew. I venture into waters that don't have anyone looking after it. My advice should be listened to. the man that asked got good advice to protect himself and crew. The whining from here is what I would expect from only the most inexperienced of the most inexperienced. Those thinking that armament is not necessary have reason to be embarrassed and a need to become educated before they set sail. from what I have read in my short look here I am surprised. I thought that an asa site would have sailors with more experience then this does. From what I have read, the vast lot of you here are less experienced then the basic keel boat certificates that i have signed off on. You are obviously of the weaker mindset and would never be welcomed aboard my ships. That's a relief. Down unders laws against guns proved that if you don't have guns you get more crime. Really, you have obviously done a huge amount of research into the subject. Do you know how many people are shot dead in the US each day? please tell me that you are not seriously comparing the number of US gun wounds to australia. If you take an average per capita then we can talk, but I am sure you are well aware that the us is something like 200,000,000 people and ausi is something like 25,000,000 counting tourists. I am fully versed on your laws that went into effect a few years back and the statistic that showed a 400% increase in homicide. Are you aware of it? Anyway, I have wasted enough time on your lot here. You had the nerve to insult my good advice and you have no experience to work with. Since I have no reason to ever befriend you or your type for any reason this will be my last post to you. You lose all that you could learn from me and I can tell that would have been plenty. So, **** off and go sail your beer can races, pat yourself on the back, and dream about being a real man. It is about all you will ever be able to do. Taddy, I'm amazed that a big recording studio mogul like you would have so little respect for others. Bwaaaahahahahahahahahahaaaa f you know about my music then you must also know my reputation as a sailor, pilot and instructor of both, still you think you know more then I? I am sure you do not have any clue and you probably only see little things you can pick up through google. I stay private and to sea for large quantities of time. Anyone and everyone that knows about me knows that. Most know the stories that have appeared about the incidents. if you really knew you would have knowledge of that. So why do you stand tall to me? I can't stand weakness and you are the flagship. BTW, Mogul, Your website is down! Bwaaaahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa! I don't know what web site you are talking about. the only one I have is up and working fine. http://members.cox.net/sandycove/index.html -- Danny Taddei e-mail me at (remove no-worms-in-a-) There's a horizon on every side. Let your soul inside be the guide and lead the way. http://members.cox.net/sandycove/index.html -- Danny Taddei e-mail me at (remove no-worms-in-a-) There's a horizon on every side. Let your soul inside be the guide and lead the way. http://members.cox.net/sandycove/index.html |
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Sure whatever. Have a nice day.
"Danny Taddei" wrote in message ... I am gone... sailing... I only stopped by hoping to meet some real sailors here. Since there are none then there is no point to being around here. Freak? You people are an embarrassment. Jonathan Ganz wrote: Well, feel free to leave any time. And don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. What a freak. "Danny Taddei" wrote in message ... Oz1 wrote: Nope, Sir Peter Blake, one of the finest men and sailors ever born. BUT the situation is similar, he came out of the cabin armed when he heard the rest of his crew being bailed up by thieves. He surprised the thieves and was shot before he knew what happened. If he had not had his gun, he would have been robbed and have had to file an insurance claim. Unfortunately his widow had to buy a casket. I am very sorry to hear of your loose of friend but his is not the normal situation one encounters while cruising. Most of the theft is from desperate men with large knives and they board at night when the boaters are asleep. The sound of their walking wakes the owners and the gun on board either arrests the perpetrators or ends the threat. Guns on board are an absolute must if you intend to go anywhere in the not so civilized world. My crew depends on my ability to protect them in all matters. The ships I captain, both while acting as master of a freighter and as master of my own sailboat while cruising have thousands of dollars cash onboard as well as cargo of sorts be it cargo or crew. I venture into waters that don't have anyone looking after it. My advice should be listened to. the man that asked got good advice to protect himself and crew. The whining from here is what I would expect from only the most inexperienced of the most inexperienced. Those thinking that armament is not necessary have reason to be embarrassed and a need to become educated before they set sail. from what I have read in my short look here I am surprised. I thought that an asa site would have sailors with more experience then this does. From what I have read, the vast lot of you here are less experienced then the basic keel boat certificates that i have signed off on. You are obviously of the weaker mindset and would never be welcomed aboard my ships. That's a relief. Down unders laws against guns proved that if you don't have guns you get more crime. Really, you have obviously done a huge amount of research into the subject. Do you know how many people are shot dead in the US each day? please tell me that you are not seriously comparing the number of US gun wounds to australia. If you take an average per capita then we can talk, but I am sure you are well aware that the us is something like 200,000,000 people and ausi is something like 25,000,000 counting tourists. I am fully versed on your laws that went into effect a few years back and the statistic that showed a 400% increase in homicide. Are you aware of it? Anyway, I have wasted enough time on your lot here. You had the nerve to insult my good advice and you have no experience to work with. Since I have no reason to ever befriend you or your type for any reason this will be my last post to you. You lose all that you could learn from me and I can tell that would have been plenty. So, **** off and go sail your beer can races, pat yourself on the back, and dream about being a real man. It is about all you will ever be able to do. Taddy, I'm amazed that a big recording studio mogul like you would have so little respect for others. Bwaaaahahahahahahahahahaaaa f you know about my music then you must also know my reputation as a sailor, pilot and instructor of both, still you think you know more then I? I am sure you do not have any clue and you probably only see little things you can pick up through google. I stay private and to sea for large quantities of time. Anyone and everyone that knows about me knows that. Most know the stories that have appeared about the incidents. if you really knew you would have knowledge of that. So why do you stand tall to me? I can't stand weakness and you are the flagship. BTW, Mogul, Your website is down! Bwaaaahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa! I don't know what web site you are talking about. the only one I have is up and working fine. http://members.cox.net/sandycove/index.html -- Danny Taddei e-mail me at (remove no-worms-in-a-) There's a horizon on every side. Let your soul inside be the guide and lead the way. http://members.cox.net/sandycove/index.html -- Danny Taddei e-mail me at (remove no-worms-in-a-) There's a horizon on every side. Let your soul inside be the guide and lead the way. http://members.cox.net/sandycove/index.html |
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Folks, I give you the sophisticated guy called Danny:
http://members.cox.net/sandycove/cos...lamingo01.html Also, I'm wondering which one is your wife? http://members.cox.net/sandycove/cos...ichille01.html Oh, uh huh... 70 kts. Sure thing buddy. "Danny Taddei" wrote in message ... I was bringing my boat to Miami from Los Angeles and found my sails in need of repair when unexpected 70 knot winds jumped up from 4-7 knots and took out my mainsail. No. You're wrong. You don't have to stop or render help. You're obligated to protect your boat and the people on it first. If and only if you can help others without putting yourself in peril, then you should render aid. When you find men at peril while at sea it is internationally known to sailors that you must stop to help. I was rendering services of life jackets and water while trying to keep them off of my boat thereby forcing me to sail them back to their country. The US will not allow US flag ships to enter US ports with illegal immigrants and the boats with those people will be forced back to the country of the people on board. that would cause hell, trust me. The right thing and only thing to do is control the situation before life threatening situations occur. The best way I have found is to use a guard tactic to keep them off the boat and call the coast guard. That is the recommended way by the USCG by the way and not something I decided. I was about 10 miles west of Gun Cay when I came across the 20. I have seen others but the situation was never as desperate. Wrong again. It shows good sense, which obviously you're lacking. You are wrong, suggesting illegal actions and are not suggesting seamanship. Maybe you are just unaware that if you find someone at sea in peril that it is your legal duty to help. It is. Perhaps you're just a loser, who is sailing from the liquor cabinate to the barcalounger. You clearly know nothing about sailing or safety at sea. Perhaps I just happen to be someone with many 10's of thousands of sea miles along coastal routes. I am. Sure right. Whatever you say. You're obviously the expert. have no idea where you have sailed but that is not the custom. If you enter a port where firearms are restricted, there are 2 practiced procedures. The first and most common is to put an official tape over the gun locker not to be broken until the ship sets sail from the port. The lessor used method is to check your guns with the port captain to retake them upon checking out of the country. There is no other way to deal with it and that is law under the treaty of sea fairing nations 1978. If that's what you think, feel free to pack your guns and go sailing. I'm certain we'll never cross paths, because likely you're too stupid to follow one. |
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I know the man and I can tell you that in 4 years of lurking I have seen
him come here at least 2 times. You same guys went after him like dogs. Here in San Diego He is well known. He works with the stars and stripes crew on some things but he is a ship captain and has traveled lots. I have had beers with him and think he is a good guy. I don't write much because I don't have much to say but now I do. I think there are some dumb ass people here so let the door hit my ass too. You are a bunch of dumb dickheads. |
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message | I've sailed in a lot | of places, and none of them waranted caring firearms. Yeah Okay.... California and the BVI's hardly rate as "a lot of places" Ganz. I carry an assault shotgun... It doubles as a line launcher with the kit from Mossberg. Nonetheless most people should not carry guns aboard since very few have a grasp on their use and consequences. This Danny Taddei is your exact polar opposite.... neither of you have a clue regarding use and deployment of a firearm. Both of you should be banned from owning one. CM |
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"Vito" wrote in message ... katysails wrote: Your question was long ago and far away.....The answer is ....maybe? Wrong! Everybody who is anybody knows The Answer is 42! ..... but what was the question? Regards Donal -- |
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I as usual....Fail to See your point Ganz?
Looks like this guy sails to places you might charter in because you are too afraid to venture out of the harbour. You're a bay sailor and part time charterer.... just because you instruct sailing isn't a reason to think you might have a modicum of ability outside a protected harbour. Let me high lite the facts for you Gay Ganz.... this dude has done it and earned the bragging rights. You on the other hand consider having 200 boats in close proximity as adventure sailing. You're delusional! Jon fer pete's sake just shut up and listen to your betters. CM "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... | Folks, I give you the sophisticated guy called Danny: | | http://members.cox.net/sandycove/cos...lamingo01.html | | Also, I'm wondering which one is your wife? | | http://members.cox.net/sandycove/cos...ichille01.html | | Oh, uh huh... 70 kts. Sure thing buddy. | | "Danny Taddei" wrote in message | ... | I was bringing my boat to Miami from Los Angeles and found my sails in | need of repair when unexpected 70 knot winds jumped up from 4-7 knots | and took out my mainsail. | | No. You're wrong. You don't have to stop or render help. You're | obligated to protect your boat and the people on it first. If and only | if you can help others without putting yourself in peril, then you should | render aid. | | When you find men at peril while at sea it is internationally known to | sailors that you must stop to help. I was rendering services of life | jackets and water while trying to keep them off of my boat thereby | forcing me to sail them back to their country. The US will not allow US | flag ships to enter US ports with illegal immigrants and the boats with | those people will be forced back to the country of the people on board. | that would cause hell, trust me. The right thing and only thing to do is | control the situation before life threatening situations occur. The best | way I have found is to use a guard tactic to keep them off the boat and | call the coast guard. That is the recommended way by the USCG by the way | and not something I decided. I was about 10 miles west of Gun Cay when I | came across the 20. I have seen others but the situation was never as | desperate. | | Wrong again. It shows good sense, which obviously you're lacking. | | You are wrong, suggesting illegal actions and are not suggesting | seamanship. Maybe you are just unaware that if you find someone at sea | in peril that it is your legal duty to help. It is. | | Perhaps you're just a loser, who is sailing from the liquor cabinate | to the barcalounger. You clearly know nothing about sailing or | safety at sea. | | Perhaps I just happen to be someone with many 10's of thousands of sea | miles along coastal routes. I am. | | Sure right. Whatever you say. You're obviously the expert. | | have no idea where you have sailed but that is not the custom. If you | enter a port where firearms are restricted, there are 2 practiced | procedures. The first and most common is to put an official tape over | the gun locker not to be broken until the ship sets sail from the port. | The lessor used method is to check your guns with the port captain to | retake them upon checking out of the country. There is no other way to | deal with it and that is law under the treaty of sea fairing nations 1978. | | If that's what you think, feel free to pack your guns and go sailing. I'm | certain we'll never cross paths, because likely you're too stupid to follow | one. | | | |
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Maybe Jasson is the Pacifist side and you two would get along famously?
CM "Oz1" wrote in message ... | On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 06:52:12 -0300, "Capt. Mooron" | wrote: | | | "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message | | I've sailed in a lot | | of places, and none of them waranted caring firearms. | | Yeah Okay.... California and the BVI's hardly rate as "a lot of places" | Ganz. | I carry an assault shotgun... It doubles as a line launcher with the kit | from Mossberg. | | Nonetheless most people should not carry guns aboard since very few have a | grasp on their use and consequences. This Danny Taddei is your exact polar | opposite.... neither of you have a clue regarding use and deployment of a | firearm. Both of you should be banned from owning one. | | CM | | | | Besides that Taddei is schitzo he is both Danny and Jasson. | | | Oz1...of the 3 twins. | I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
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katysails wrote:
Your question was long ago and far away.....The answer is ....maybe? Wrong! Everybody who is anybody knows The Answer is 42! |
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Oz1 wrote:
... Sir Peter Blake, one of the finest men and sailors ever born. BUT the situation is similar, he came out of the cabin armed when he heard the rest of his crew being bailed up by thieves. He surprised the thieves and was shot before he knew what happened. Up to here we are I assume dealing with facts. Beyond that with your assumptions. If he surprised the nervous thieves, it's likely they'd have shot him anyway. In any event, your attitude is most gratifying. You see, I was concerned because my retirement income will be less than princely. But you've given me new hope. It seems I can improve it considerably by robbing unarmed Ozzies and Canadians .... (c: Howard |
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Small arms for sailboats:
http://securityarms.com/20010315/gal...s/0700/745.htm http://securityarms.com/20010315/gal...s/0700/710.htm Heavy Weapons for Sail Boats: http://arms.host.sk/firearms/rg6.htm http://securityarms.com/20010315/gal...s/0800/876.htm "Peter Wiley" wrote in message om... "katysails" wrote in message ... Never saw the point of walking round whacking balls. ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Some here may not agree with you..... Knew you'd pick up that straight line.... now, are you wearing the black leather or the shiny rubber outfit when participating in this sport? Better not be too detailed or Simon might have to go buy a new inflatable. Peter Wiley |
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Bull Pup 12 ga. guns..... not effective... barrel is too short, dispersion
too wide. Nice for room to room sweeps. To much gun for a "deck gun". I use a Belgian Poaching Handgun. .410 ga. double barrels, swan triggers 8" barrels.... clears a 10 square foot area at 10 feet. It's mounted to look like a lamp but can be disassembled in seconds. CM "jlrogers" wrote in message . .. | Small arms for sailboats: | | http://securityarms.com/20010315/gal...s/0700/745.htm | | | | http://securityarms.com/20010315/gal...s/0700/710.htm | | | | Heavy Weapons for Sail Boats: | | http://arms.host.sk/firearms/rg6.htm | | | | http://securityarms.com/20010315/gal...s/0800/876.htm | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | "Peter Wiley" wrote in message om... | "katysails" wrote in message ... | Never saw the point of walking round whacking balls. | | ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Some here may not agree with you..... | | Knew you'd pick up that straight line.... now, are you wearing the | black leather or the shiny rubber outfit when participating in this | sport? | | Better not be too detailed or Simon might have to go buy a new | inflatable. | | Peter Wiley |
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As usual, you know nothing about the situation, given the only
sailing you do is in your frozen wilderness. As far as I can see, the only thing he's earned is a good slap for being an idiot. Obviously, you're a slow learner. Aren't you tired of the lashing you took from me last time? "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... I as usual....Fail to See your point Ganz? Looks like this guy sails to places you might charter in because you are too afraid to venture out of the harbour. You're a bay sailor and part time charterer.... just because you instruct sailing isn't a reason to think you might have a modicum of ability outside a protected harbour. Let me high lite the facts for you Gay Ganz.... this dude has done it and earned the bragging rights. You on the other hand consider having 200 boats in close proximity as adventure sailing. You're delusional! Jon fer pete's sake just shut up and listen to your betters. CM "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... | Folks, I give you the sophisticated guy called Danny: | | http://members.cox.net/sandycove/cos...lamingo01.html | | Also, I'm wondering which one is your wife? | | http://members.cox.net/sandycove/cos...ichille01.html | | Oh, uh huh... 70 kts. Sure thing buddy. | | "Danny Taddei" wrote in message | ... | I was bringing my boat to Miami from Los Angeles and found my sails in | need of repair when unexpected 70 knot winds jumped up from 4-7 knots | and took out my mainsail. | | No. You're wrong. You don't have to stop or render help. You're | obligated to protect your boat and the people on it first. If and only | if you can help others without putting yourself in peril, then you should | render aid. | | When you find men at peril while at sea it is internationally known to | sailors that you must stop to help. I was rendering services of life | jackets and water while trying to keep them off of my boat thereby | forcing me to sail them back to their country. The US will not allow US | flag ships to enter US ports with illegal immigrants and the boats with | those people will be forced back to the country of the people on board. | that would cause hell, trust me. The right thing and only thing to do is | control the situation before life threatening situations occur. The best | way I have found is to use a guard tactic to keep them off the boat and | call the coast guard. That is the recommended way by the USCG by the way | and not something I decided. I was about 10 miles west of Gun Cay when I | came across the 20. I have seen others but the situation was never as | desperate. | | Wrong again. It shows good sense, which obviously you're lacking. | | You are wrong, suggesting illegal actions and are not suggesting | seamanship. Maybe you are just unaware that if you find someone at sea | in peril that it is your legal duty to help. It is. | | Perhaps you're just a loser, who is sailing from the liquor cabinate | to the barcalounger. You clearly know nothing about sailing or | safety at sea. | | Perhaps I just happen to be someone with many 10's of thousands of sea | miles along coastal routes. I am. | | Sure right. Whatever you say. You're obviously the expert. | | have no idea where you have sailed but that is not the custom. If you | enter a port where firearms are restricted, there are 2 practiced | procedures. The first and most common is to put an official tape over | the gun locker not to be broken until the ship sets sail from the port. | The lessor used method is to check your guns with the port captain to | retake them upon checking out of the country. There is no other way to | deal with it and that is law under the treaty of sea fairing nations 1978. | | If that's what you think, feel free to pack your guns and go sailing. I'm | certain we'll never cross paths, because likely you're too stupid to follow | one. | | | |
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Great post!
"Horvath" wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 22:20:59 -0700, Danny Taddei wrote this crap: Jonathan Ganz wrote: What is with you? Why were in Nicaragua? Are you a member of the local secret police? Perhaps you should be a bit more careful about where you sail. I was bringing my boat to Miami from Los Angeles and found my sails in need of repair when unexpected 70 knot winds jumped up from 4-7 knots and took out my mainsail. What about your motor? Why were you so close to obvious scumbag rafters? How could they possibly try to "get on your boat"?? When you find men at peril while at sea it is internationally known to sailors that you must stop to help. I was rendering services of life jackets and water while trying to keep them off of my boat thereby You couldn't call the Coasties while at a safe distance? Ever hear of channel 16? Why not just sail or motor away? You dump them some water and move away. Only an idiot or a fool would get close to desperate people on the high seas You are wrong, suggesting illegal actions and are not suggesting seamanship. Maybe you are just unaware that if you find someone at sea in peril that it is your legal duty to help. It is. Not if you can't get to them. Sounds to me like you have extremely bad karma or are really stupid or foodhardy to put yourself in these "dozen" incident situations. Perhaps I just happen to be someone with many 10's of thousands of sea miles along coastal routes. I am. Sure you are. Sure. have no idea where you have sailed but that is not the custom. If you enter a port where firearms are restricted, there are 2 practiced procedures. The first and most common is to put an official tape over the gun locker not to be broken until the ship sets sail from the port. The lessor used method is to check your guns with the port captain to retake them upon checking out of the country. There is no other way to deal with it and that is law under the treaty of sea fairing nations 1978. Port Captain? There's a Port Captain? What about the Starboard Captain? Ave Imperator Bush! Bush Was Right! Four More Years! |
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Well, I can certainly see why you're paranoid up there in
Canada. Those people are pretty strange. Maybe the moose *are* as dangerous as they say. Do they swim out to you or do you solicit them? "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message | I've sailed in a lot | of places, and none of them waranted caring firearms. Yeah Okay.... California and the BVI's hardly rate as "a lot of places" Ganz. I carry an assault shotgun... It doubles as a line launcher with the kit from Mossberg. Nonetheless most people should not carry guns aboard since very few have a grasp on their use and consequences. This Danny Taddei is your exact polar opposite.... neither of you have a clue regarding use and deployment of a firearm. Both of you should be banned from owning one. CM |
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I don't really know why I am bothering but just for fun- Nicaragua has
winds that come up from nowhere through the mountains and you must stay "one foot on the sand" or get crushed 1 mile out, the coast guard does not live in those waters, the nearest fuel stops are many hundreds of miles apart, I like to sail rather then run out of fuel when I need it and you can look up my master license with the uscg - they have my sea hours. You can look at the pictures at the site and see that I have sailed at least from LA to Miami. I have sailed much more- many 10's of thousands and 20 thousand have been captain of long tow. How about you? Jonathan Ganz wrote: Great post! "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 22:20:59 -0700, Danny Taddei wrote this crap: Jonathan Ganz wrote: What is with you? Why were in Nicaragua? Are you a member of the local secret police? Perhaps you should be a bit more careful about where you sail. I was bringing my boat to Miami from Los Angeles and found my sails in need of repair when unexpected 70 knot winds jumped up from 4-7 knots and took out my mainsail. What about your motor? Why were you so close to obvious scumbag rafters? How could they possibly try to "get on your boat"?? When you find men at peril while at sea it is internationally known to sailors that you must stop to help. I was rendering services of life jackets and water while trying to keep them off of my boat thereby You couldn't call the Coasties while at a safe distance? Ever hear of channel 16? Why not just sail or motor away? You dump them some water and move away. Only an idiot or a fool would get close to desperate people on the high seas You are wrong, suggesting illegal actions and are not suggesting seamanship. Maybe you are just unaware that if you find someone at sea in peril that it is your legal duty to help. It is. Not if you can't get to them. Sounds to me like you have extremely bad karma or are really stupid or foodhardy to put yourself in these "dozen" incident situations. Perhaps I just happen to be someone with many 10's of thousands of sea miles along coastal routes. I am. Sure you are. Sure. have no idea where you have sailed but that is not the custom. If you enter a port where firearms are restricted, there are 2 practiced procedures. The first and most common is to put an official tape over the gun locker not to be broken until the ship sets sail from the port. The lessor used method is to check your guns with the port captain to retake them upon checking out of the country. There is no other way to deal with it and that is law under the treaty of sea fairing nations 1978. Port Captain? There's a Port Captain? What about the Starboard Captain? Ave Imperator Bush! Bush Was Right! Four More Years! -- Danny Taddei e-mail me at (remove no-worms-in-a-) There's a horizon on every side. Let your soul inside be the guide and lead the way. http://members.cox.net/sandycove/index.html |
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"Danny Taddei" wrote in message
I don't really know why I am bothering but just for fun- Nicaragua has winds that come up from nowhere through the mountains and you must stay "one foot on the sand" or get crushed 1 mile out, the coast guard does not live in those waters, the nearest fuel stops are many hundreds of miles apart, I like to sail rather then run out of fuel when I need it and you can look up my master license with the uscg - they have my sea hours. You can look at the pictures at the site and see that I have sailed at least from LA to Miami. I have sailed much more- many 10's of thousands and 20 thousand have been captain of long tow. How about you? Do you have a prticular reason for hanging around in bandit country? -- Wally I demand rigidly-defined areas of uncertainty! www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk |
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It's not my job. Do your own research.
"Vito" wrote in message ... Jonathan Ganz wrote: ... a gun on a sailboat is a bad idea. It's been proven over and over. Could you cite those proofs? I've seen the same said for guns in homes. For example, the premier anti-gun org here in the USA claims one is 37 times more likely to be shot with your own gun than use it in self defense but closer examination proved that a lie - they'd juggled the stats. It then came out that the org (HCI) had been established and funded by churches to protect criminals from their victims!! With all due respect that experience has made me suspicious of "proof" til I check it out. Many intellegent, well meaning people have been duped by these religious nut cases. |
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Wally wrote: "Danny Taddei" wrote in message I don't really know why I am bothering but just for fun- Nicaragua has winds that come up from nowhere through the mountains and you must stay "one foot on the sand" or get crushed 1 mile out, the coast guard does not live in those waters, the nearest fuel stops are many hundreds of miles apart, I like to sail rather then run out of fuel when I need it and you can look up my master license with the uscg - they have my sea hours. You can look at the pictures at the site and see that I have sailed at least from LA to Miami. I have sailed much more- many 10's of thousands and 20 thousand have been captain of long tow. How about you? Do you have a prticular reason for hanging around in bandit country? If you are talking about Nicaragua then yes. it is a lot easier to sail to Miami that way then through the rocky mountains. Maybe you can suggest another route? -- Wally I demand rigidly-defined areas of uncertainty! www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk -- Danny Taddei e-mail me at (remove no-worms-in-a-) There's a horizon on every side. Let your soul inside be the guide and lead the way. http://members.cox.net/sandycove/index.html |
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You were lashing me???? I didn't notice... I must have been drunk...again!
When did you hallucinate this Ganz??? CM "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... | As usual, you know nothing about the situation, given the only | sailing you do is in your frozen wilderness. | | As far as I can see, the only thing he's earned is a good slap | for being an idiot. Obviously, you're a slow learner. Aren't | you tired of the lashing you took from me last time? | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message | ... | I as usual....Fail to See your point Ganz? | | Looks like this guy sails to places you might charter in because you are | too | afraid to venture out of the harbour. You're a bay sailor and part time | charterer.... just because you instruct sailing isn't a reason to think | you | might have a modicum of ability outside a protected harbour. | | Let me high lite the facts for you Gay Ganz.... this dude has done it and | earned the bragging rights. You on the other hand consider having 200 | boats | in close proximity as adventure sailing. You're delusional! | | Jon fer pete's sake just shut up and listen to your betters. | | CM | | | | "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message | ... | | Folks, I give you the sophisticated guy called Danny: | | | | http://members.cox.net/sandycove/cos...lamingo01.html | | | | Also, I'm wondering which one is your wife? | | | | http://members.cox.net/sandycove/cos...ichille01.html | | | | Oh, uh huh... 70 kts. Sure thing buddy. | | | | "Danny Taddei" wrote in message | | ... | | I was bringing my boat to Miami from Los Angeles and found my sails in | | need of repair when unexpected 70 knot winds jumped up from 4-7 knots | | and took out my mainsail. | | | | No. You're wrong. You don't have to stop or render help. You're | | obligated to protect your boat and the people on it first. If and only | | if you can help others without putting yourself in peril, then you | should | | render aid. | | | | When you find men at peril while at sea it is internationally known to | | sailors that you must stop to help. I was rendering services of life | | jackets and water while trying to keep them off of my boat thereby | | forcing me to sail them back to their country. The US will not allow | US | | flag ships to enter US ports with illegal immigrants and the boats | with | | those people will be forced back to the country of the people on | board. | | that would cause hell, trust me. The right thing and only thing to do | is | | control the situation before life threatening situations occur. The | best | | way I have found is to use a guard tactic to keep them off the boat | and | | call the coast guard. That is the recommended way by the USCG by the | way | | and not something I decided. I was about 10 miles west of Gun Cay when | I | | came across the 20. I have seen others but the situation was never as | | desperate. | | | | Wrong again. It shows good sense, which obviously you're lacking. | | | | You are wrong, suggesting illegal actions and are not suggesting | | seamanship. Maybe you are just unaware that if you find someone at sea | | in peril that it is your legal duty to help. It is. | | | | Perhaps you're just a loser, who is sailing from the liquor cabinate | | to the barcalounger. You clearly know nothing about sailing or | | safety at sea. | | | | Perhaps I just happen to be someone with many 10's of thousands of sea | | miles along coastal routes. I am. | | | | Sure right. Whatever you say. You're obviously the expert. | | | | have no idea where you have sailed but that is not the custom. If | you | | enter a port where firearms are restricted, there are 2 practiced | | procedures. The first and most common is to put an official tape over | | the gun locker not to be broken until the ship sets sail from the | port. | | The lessor used method is to check your guns with the port captain to | | retake them upon checking out of the country. There is no other way to | | deal with it and that is law under the treaty of sea fairing nations | 1978. | | | | If that's what you think, feel free to pack your guns and go sailing. | I'm | | certain we'll never cross paths, because likely you're too stupid to | follow | | one. | | | | | | | | | | |
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:
... a gun on a sailboat is a bad idea. It's been proven over and over. Could you cite those proofs? I've seen the same said for guns in homes. For example, the premier anti-gun org here in the USA claims one is 37 times more likely to be shot with your own gun than use it in self defense but closer examination proved that a lie - they'd juggled the stats. It then came out that the org (HCI) had been established and funded by churches to protect criminals from their victims!! With all due respect that experience has made me suspicious of "proof" til I check it out. Many intellegent, well meaning people have been duped by these religious nut cases. |
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No... we got big problems with marine Bearcats! Nasty things... the only
way to stop them is a shotgun at close range. CM "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... | Well, I can certainly see why you're paranoid up there in | Canada. Those people are pretty strange. Maybe the moose | *are* as dangerous as they say. Do they swim out to you | or do you solicit them? | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message | ... | | "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message | | I've sailed in a lot | | of places, and none of them waranted caring firearms. | | Yeah Okay.... California and the BVI's hardly rate as "a lot of places" | Ganz. | I carry an assault shotgun... It doubles as a line launcher with the kit | from Mossberg. | | Nonetheless most people should not carry guns aboard since very few have a | grasp on their use and consequences. This Danny Taddei is your exact polar | opposite.... neither of you have a clue regarding use and deployment of a | firearm. Both of you should be banned from owning one. | | CM | | | | | |
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote...
Folks, I give you the sophisticated guy called Danny: http://members.cox.net/sandycove/cos...lamingo01.html ...snip... If that's what you think, feel free to pack your guns and go sailing. I'm certain we'll never cross paths, because likely you're too stupid to follow one. This pathetic loser was trolling rec.aviation.* a few years back. He'll probably fade away pretty quickly; that's what happened there, anyway. Frank |
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Last week.
"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... You were lashing me???? I didn't notice... I must have been drunk...again! When did you hallucinate this Ganz??? CM "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... | As usual, you know nothing about the situation, given the only | sailing you do is in your frozen wilderness. | | As far as I can see, the only thing he's earned is a good slap | for being an idiot. Obviously, you're a slow learner. Aren't | you tired of the lashing you took from me last time? | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message | ... | I as usual....Fail to See your point Ganz? | | Looks like this guy sails to places you might charter in because you are | too | afraid to venture out of the harbour. You're a bay sailor and part time | charterer.... just because you instruct sailing isn't a reason to think | you | might have a modicum of ability outside a protected harbour. | | Let me high lite the facts for you Gay Ganz.... this dude has done it and | earned the bragging rights. You on the other hand consider having 200 | boats | in close proximity as adventure sailing. You're delusional! | | Jon fer pete's sake just shut up and listen to your betters. | | CM | | | | "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message | ... | | Folks, I give you the sophisticated guy called Danny: | | | | http://members.cox.net/sandycove/cos...lamingo01.html | | | | Also, I'm wondering which one is your wife? | | | | http://members.cox.net/sandycove/cos...ichille01.html | | | | Oh, uh huh... 70 kts. Sure thing buddy. | | | | "Danny Taddei" wrote in message | | ... | | I was bringing my boat to Miami from Los Angeles and found my sails in | | need of repair when unexpected 70 knot winds jumped up from 4-7 knots | | and took out my mainsail. | | | | No. You're wrong. You don't have to stop or render help. You're | | obligated to protect your boat and the people on it first. If and only | | if you can help others without putting yourself in peril, then you | should | | render aid. | | | | When you find men at peril while at sea it is internationally known to | | sailors that you must stop to help. I was rendering services of life | | jackets and water while trying to keep them off of my boat thereby | | forcing me to sail them back to their country. The US will not allow | US | | flag ships to enter US ports with illegal immigrants and the boats | with | | those people will be forced back to the country of the people on | board. | | that would cause hell, trust me. The right thing and only thing to do | is | | control the situation before life threatening situations occur. The | best | | way I have found is to use a guard tactic to keep them off the boat | and | | call the coast guard. That is the recommended way by the USCG by the | way | | and not something I decided. I was about 10 miles west of Gun Cay when | I | | came across the 20. I have seen others but the situation was never as | | desperate. | | | | Wrong again. It shows good sense, which obviously you're lacking. | | | | You are wrong, suggesting illegal actions and are not suggesting | | seamanship. Maybe you are just unaware that if you find someone at sea | | in peril that it is your legal duty to help. It is. | | | | Perhaps you're just a loser, who is sailing from the liquor cabinate | | to the barcalounger. You clearly know nothing about sailing or | | safety at sea. | | | | Perhaps I just happen to be someone with many 10's of thousands of sea | | miles along coastal routes. I am. | | | | Sure right. Whatever you say. You're obviously the expert. | | | | have no idea where you have sailed but that is not the custom. If | you | | enter a port where firearms are restricted, there are 2 practiced | | procedures. The first and most common is to put an official tape over | | the gun locker not to be broken until the ship sets sail from the | port. | | The lessor used method is to check your guns with the port captain to | | retake them upon checking out of the country. There is no other way to | | deal with it and that is law under the treaty of sea fairing nations | 1978. | | | | If that's what you think, feel free to pack your guns and go sailing. | I'm | | certain we'll never cross paths, because likely you're too stupid to | follow | | one. | | | | | | | | | | |
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On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 15:04:22 -0700, Danny Taddei
wrote this crap: If you are talking about Nicaragua then yes. it is a lot easier to sail to Miami that way then through the rocky mountains. Maybe you can suggest another route? I take a plane. Ave Imperator Bush! Bush Was Right! Four More Years! |
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"Danny Taddei" wrote in message
Do you have a prticular reason for hanging around in bandit country? If you are talking about Nicaragua then yes. it is a lot easier to sail to Miami that way then through the rocky mountains. Maybe you can suggest another route? I don't know the area and I'm not in a position to suggest another route. I was just wondering why one might choose to sail in relatively dangerous areas. Gun or no gun, being in an area which is more likely to need a gun is still more dangerous than being in a place where a gun isn't needed. Ergo, why take the risk? -- Wally I demand rigidly-defined areas of uncertainty! www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk |
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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...
No... we got big problems with marine Bearcats! Nasty things... the only way to stop them is a shotgun at close range. Thought you'd carry a firearm to get a seal or 2. Works for fishermen down here, long as there are no bleeding hearts about. Or sharks if you're into 'sport' fishing. Personally I prefer a gillnet and a few drinks to trolling or baiting fish (unlike a lot of people on this n/g). I'd think about carrying a shotgun or rifle aboard if I had the space, but not for defence against pirates or thieves - vanishingly unlikely need. Firearms are occasionally very useful tools and it depends what you're doing, where the utility lies. In fact I have a rifle safe aboard ship. Peter Wiley CM "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... | Well, I can certainly see why you're paranoid up there in | Canada. Those people are pretty strange. Maybe the moose | *are* as dangerous as they say. Do they swim out to you | or do you solicit them? | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message | ... | | "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message | | I've sailed in a lot | | of places, and none of them waranted caring firearms. | | Yeah Okay.... California and the BVI's hardly rate as "a lot of places" | Ganz. | I carry an assault shotgun... It doubles as a line launcher with the kit | from Mossberg. | | Nonetheless most people should not carry guns aboard since very few have a | grasp on their use and consequences. This Danny Taddei is your exact polar | opposite.... neither of you have a clue regarding use and deployment of a | firearm. Both of you should be banned from owning one. | | CM | | | | | |
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Wally wrote: "Danny Taddei" wrote in message Do you have a prticular reason for hanging around in bandit country? If you are talking about Nicaragua then yes. it is a lot easier to sail to Miami that way then through the rocky mountains. Maybe you can suggest another route? I don't know the area and I'm not in a position to suggest another route. I was just wondering why one might choose to sail in relatively dangerous areas. Gun or no gun, being in an area which is more likely to need a gun is still more dangerous than being in a place where a gun isn't needed. Ergo, why take the risk? There isn't that much risk if you are prepared but also, that is the route one takes to deliver a boat from LA to Miami. The route leaves california, 2000+ miles of Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, nicaragua, costa rica, panama via the canal then north through the yucatan channel then east to florida. The trip is about 8,000 miles when all is said and done though if you are not stopping it is less. Nicaragua, by the way, is a wonderful place with a few executions of awful. Only certain areas are bad for people. The surf there is incredible because the wind is offshore so often (although it gets a bit strong without warning and there are lots of sharks) I for one like going to places that no one else goes to- Sorry about sounding a bit brash the first time. I thought you were being little like the others here. -- Wally I demand rigidly-defined areas of uncertainty! www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk -- Danny Taddei e-mail me at (remove no-worms-in-a-) There's a horizon on every side. Let your soul inside be the guide and lead the way. http://members.cox.net/sandycove/index.html |
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I found this
One year after gun-owners were forced to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed, including semi-automatic ..22 rifles and shotguns, a program costing the government over 500 million dollars, the results are in... A dramatic increase in criminal activity has been experienced. Gun control advocates respond "Just wait... we'll be safer... you'll see...". OBSERVABLE FACT, AFTER 12 MONTHS OF DATA: * Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2% * Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6% * Australia-wide, armed-robberies are up 44% (yes, FORTY-FOUR PERCENT) * In the state of Victoria, homicides-with-firearms are up 300% * Figures over the previous 25 years show a steady decrease in homicides-with-firearms (changed dramatically in the past 12 months) * Figures over the previous 25 years show a steady decrease in armed-robbery-with-firearms (changed dramatically in the past 12 months) * There has been a dramatic increase in breakins-and-assaults-of- the-elderly * At the time of the ban, the Prime Minister said "self-defense is not a reason for owning a firearm" * From 1910 to present, homicides in Australia had averaged about 1.8-per-100,000 or lower, a safe society by any standard. * The ban has destroyed Australia's standings in some international sport shooting competitions * The membership of the Australian Sports Shooting Association has risen to 112,000, a 200% increase, in response to the ban and as an attempt to organize against further controls, which are expected. * Australian politicians are on the spot and at a loss to explain how no improvement in "safety" has been observed after such monumental effort and expense was successfully expended in "ridding society of guns". Their response has been to "wait longer". Jonathan Ganz wrote: It's not my job. Do your own research. "Vito" wrote in message ... Jonathan Ganz wrote: ... a gun on a sailboat is a bad idea. It's been proven over and over. Could you cite those proofs? I've seen the same said for guns in homes. For example, the premier anti-gun org here in the USA claims one is 37 times more likely to be shot with your own gun than use it in self defense but closer examination proved that a lie - they'd juggled the stats. It then came out that the org (HCI) had been established and funded by churches to protect criminals from their victims!! With all due respect that experience has made me suspicious of "proof" til I check it out. Many intellegent, well meaning people have been duped by these religious nut cases. -- Danny Taddei e-mail me at (remove no-worms-in-a-) There's a horizon on every side. Let your soul inside be the guide and lead the way. http://members.cox.net/sandycove/index.html |
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Horvath wrote: On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:36:56 -0700, Danny Taddei wrote this crap: I don't really know why I am bothering but just for fun- Nicaragua has winds that come up from nowhere through the mountains and you must stay "one foot on the sand" or get crushed 1 mile out, the coast guard does not live in those waters, the nearest fuel stops are many hundreds of miles apart, I like to sail rather then run out of fuel when I need it and you can look up my master license with the uscg - they have my sea hours. You can look at the pictures at the site and see that I have sailed at least from LA to Miami. I have sailed much more- many 10's of thousands and 20 thousand have been captain of long tow. How about you? I won twelve trophies for racing, last year. I don't know how many I've already won this year, but last week I got trophies for two first places, and two second places during Race Week. You should be proud of those trophies. I have a wall full of them that I am proud of too. Ave Imperator Bush! Bush Was Right! Four More Years! -- Danny Taddei e-mail me at (remove no-worms-in-a-) There's a horizon on every side. Let your soul inside be the guide and lead the way. http://members.cox.net/sandycove/index.html |
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Oh, I'm so scared!
"Danny Taddei" wrote in message ... I found this One year after gun-owners were forced to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed, including semi-automatic .22 rifles and shotguns, a program costing the government over 500 million dollars, the results are in... A dramatic increase in criminal activity has been experienced. Gun control advocates respond "Just wait... we'll be safer... you'll see...". OBSERVABLE FACT, AFTER 12 MONTHS OF DATA: * Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2% * Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6% * Australia-wide, armed-robberies are up 44% (yes, FORTY-FOUR PERCENT) * In the state of Victoria, homicides-with-firearms are up 300% * Figures over the previous 25 years show a steady decrease in homicides-with-firearms (changed dramatically in the past 12 months) * Figures over the previous 25 years show a steady decrease in armed-robbery-with-firearms (changed dramatically in the past 12 months) * There has been a dramatic increase in breakins-and-assaults-of- the-elderly * At the time of the ban, the Prime Minister said "self-defense is not a reason for owning a firearm" * From 1910 to present, homicides in Australia had averaged about 1.8-per-100,000 or lower, a safe society by any standard. * The ban has destroyed Australia's standings in some international sport shooting competitions * The membership of the Australian Sports Shooting Association has risen to 112,000, a 200% increase, in response to the ban and as an attempt to organize against further controls, which are expected. * Australian politicians are on the spot and at a loss to explain how no improvement in "safety" has been observed after such monumental effort and expense was successfully expended in "ridding society of guns". Their response has been to "wait longer". Jonathan Ganz wrote: It's not my job. Do your own research. "Vito" wrote in message ... Jonathan Ganz wrote: ... a gun on a sailboat is a bad idea. It's been proven over and over. Could you cite those proofs? I've seen the same said for guns in homes. For example, the premier anti-gun org here in the USA claims one is 37 times more likely to be shot with your own gun than use it in self defense but closer examination proved that a lie - they'd juggled the stats. It then came out that the org (HCI) had been established and funded by churches to protect criminals from their victims!! With all due respect that experience has made me suspicious of "proof" til I check it out. Many intellegent, well meaning people have been duped by these religious nut cases. -- Danny Taddei e-mail me at (remove no-worms-in-a-) There's a horizon on every side. Let your soul inside be the guide and lead the way. http://members.cox.net/sandycove/index.html |
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