Really?

I can send you plans to test for a battery.

If you are moored in strong currents you might want to try a
magnetohydrodynamic generator. It can be built with a pvc tube, common
magnets, two wires and some simple copper electrodes. The salt water current
flows through the tube which has magnets on the outside, which also has a
magnetic field on the inside. There is a voltage induced between opposing
walls of the tube, where you put the electrodes. There is minimal drag on
this device and no moving parts.

Do you have a shear and a brake? You could make a large battery. Are you
qualified to operate machinery?

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
I've got all of those parts and a metal lathe/ machine shop..... where
can
I get the plans?

CM

"Ligniere" wrote in message
thlink.net...
| It's obvious Bobsprit knows zilch about anything electrical, or just
| anything for that matter.
| Yes, indeed, Simon the output is a little low, but it's a small battery.
If
| one were to make one in a 50 quart plastic cooler, the ouptut would be
| considerably more.
| In fact, if one were resourceful you could build this device from metal
shim
| stock, a cooler, some plastic and be in business.
| You could even make a battery from old zinc sacrificial electrodes and
scrap
| copper pipe tied in an alternating fashion on a line and lowered over
the
| side of a yacht. You would need a wire to connect successive copper to
zinc
| piece and a wire at each end of the string. This would easily recharge a
| battery - 24 hours a day and cost next to nothing.
|
|
| "Simple Simon" wrote in message
| ...
| Interesting that you can't read or figure out how to
| view the source code to find the specs I posted.
|
|
| "Bobsprit" wrote in message
| ...
| Here it is, just add salt water and you get 12 VDC! When it runs
down,
| simply rinse with fresh water, refill and away you go!
|
| Interesting that there are no output specs.
|
| RB
|
|
|
|
|

No current..... my Father is a machinist and is instructing me. Metal Lathe
and some bending equipment as well as a heavy band saw type cutting tool for
metal up to an inch thick. I do have access to a plasma cutter at a friend's
shop. I'm just starting to learn the craft. I'm currently overhauling and
re-roofing the workshop and as soon as it's finished I plan to start on a
canon for my sailboat. I'm looking at stock now for milling on the lathe.

Can this type of generator be towed array deployed?

CM

"Ligniere" wrote in message
rthlink.net...
| Really?
|
| I can send you plans to test for a battery.
|
| If you are moored in strong currents you might want to try a
| magnetohydrodynamic generator. It can be built with a pvc tube, common
| magnets, two wires and some simple copper electrodes. The salt water
current
| flows through the tube which has magnets on the outside, which also has a
| magnetic field on the inside. There is a voltage induced between opposing
| walls of the tube, where you put the electrodes. There is minimal drag on
| this device and no moving parts.
|
| Do you have a shear and a brake? You could make a large battery. Are you
| qualified to operate machinery?
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| I've got all of those parts and a metal lathe/ machine shop..... where
| can
| I get the plans?
|
| CM
|
| "Ligniere" wrote in message
| thlink.net...
| | It's obvious Bobsprit knows zilch about anything electrical, or just
| | anything for that matter.
| | Yes, indeed, Simon the output is a little low, but it's a small
battery.
| If
| | one were to make one in a 50 quart plastic cooler, the ouptut would be
| | considerably more.
| | In fact, if one were resourceful you could build this device from
metal
| shim
| | stock, a cooler, some plastic and be in business.
| | You could even make a battery from old zinc sacrificial electrodes and
| scrap
| | copper pipe tied in an alternating fashion on a line and lowered over
| the
| | side of a yacht. You would need a wire to connect successive copper to
| zinc
| | piece and a wire at each end of the string. This would easily recharge
a
| | battery - 24 hours a day and cost next to nothing.
| |
| |
| | "Simple Simon" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Interesting that you can't read or figure out how to
| | view the source code to find the specs I posted.
| |
| |
| | "Bobsprit" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Here it is, just add salt water and you get 12 VDC! When it runs
| down,
| | simply rinse with fresh water, refill and away you go!
| |
| | Interesting that there are no output specs.
| |
| | RB
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
|

The MHD can be towed.

You can buy cannons online.


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
No current..... my Father is a machinist and is instructing me. Metal
Lathe
and some bending equipment as well as a heavy band saw type cutting tool
for
metal up to an inch thick. I do have access to a plasma cutter at a
friend's
shop. I'm just starting to learn the craft. I'm currently overhauling and
re-roofing the workshop and as soon as it's finished I plan to start on a
canon for my sailboat. I'm looking at stock now for milling on the lathe.

Can this type of generator be towed array deployed?

CM

"Ligniere" wrote in message
rthlink.net...
| Really?
|
| I can send you plans to test for a battery.
|
| If you are moored in strong currents you might want to try a
| magnetohydrodynamic generator. It can be built with a pvc tube, common
| magnets, two wires and some simple copper electrodes. The salt water
current
| flows through the tube which has magnets on the outside, which also has
a
| magnetic field on the inside. There is a voltage induced between
opposing
| walls of the tube, where you put the electrodes. There is minimal drag
on
| this device and no moving parts.
|
| Do you have a shear and a brake? You could make a large battery. Are you
| qualified to operate machinery?
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| I've got all of those parts and a metal lathe/ machine shop.....
where
| can
| I get the plans?
|
| CM
|
| "Ligniere" wrote in message
| thlink.net...
| | It's obvious Bobsprit knows zilch about anything electrical, or just
| | anything for that matter.
| | Yes, indeed, Simon the output is a little low, but it's a small
battery.
| If
| | one were to make one in a 50 quart plastic cooler, the ouptut would
be
| | considerably more.
| | In fact, if one were resourceful you could build this device from
metal
| shim
| | stock, a cooler, some plastic and be in business.
| | You could even make a battery from old zinc sacrificial electrodes
and
| scrap
| | copper pipe tied in an alternating fashion on a line and lowered
over
| the
| | side of a yacht. You would need a wire to connect successive copper
to
| zinc
| | piece and a wire at each end of the string. This would easily
recharge
a
| | battery - 24 hours a day and cost next to nothing.
| |
| |
| | "Simple Simon" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Interesting that you can't read or figure out how to
| | view the source code to find the specs I posted.
| |
| |
| | "Bobsprit" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Here it is, just add salt water and you get 12 VDC! When it runs
| down,
| | simply rinse with fresh water, refill and away you go!
| |
| | Interesting that there are no output specs.
| |
| | RB
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
|

I sooner build my own thanks..... ya think a rifled barrel would increase
accuracy? ;-D

CM


"Ligniere" wrote in message
rthlink.net...
| The MHD can be towed.
|
| You can buy cannons online.
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| No current..... my Father is a machinist and is instructing me. Metal
| Lathe
| and some bending equipment as well as a heavy band saw type cutting tool
| for
| metal up to an inch thick. I do have access to a plasma cutter at a
| friend's
| shop. I'm just starting to learn the craft. I'm currently overhauling
and
| re-roofing the workshop and as soon as it's finished I plan to start on
a
| canon for my sailboat. I'm looking at stock now for milling on the
lathe.
|
| Can this type of generator be towed array deployed?
|
| CM
|
| "Ligniere" wrote in message
| rthlink.net...
| | Really?
| |
| | I can send you plans to test for a battery.
| |
| | If you are moored in strong currents you might want to try a
| | magnetohydrodynamic generator. It can be built with a pvc tube, common
| | magnets, two wires and some simple copper electrodes. The salt water
| current
| | flows through the tube which has magnets on the outside, which also
has
| a
| | magnetic field on the inside. There is a voltage induced between
| opposing
| | walls of the tube, where you put the electrodes. There is minimal drag
| on
| | this device and no moving parts.
| |
| | Do you have a shear and a brake? You could make a large battery. Are
you
| | qualified to operate machinery?
| |
| | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| | ...
| | I've got all of those parts and a metal lathe/ machine shop.....
| where
| | can
| | I get the plans?
| |
| | CM
| |
| | "Ligniere" wrote in message
| | thlink.net...
| | | It's obvious Bobsprit knows zilch about anything electrical, or
just
| | | anything for that matter.
| | | Yes, indeed, Simon the output is a little low, but it's a small
| battery.
| | If
| | | one were to make one in a 50 quart plastic cooler, the ouptut
would
| be
| | | considerably more.
| | | In fact, if one were resourceful you could build this device from
| metal
| | shim
| | | stock, a cooler, some plastic and be in business.
| | | You could even make a battery from old zinc sacrificial electrodes
| and
| | scrap
| | | copper pipe tied in an alternating fashion on a line and lowered
| over
| | the
| | | side of a yacht. You would need a wire to connect successive
copper
| to
| | zinc
| | | piece and a wire at each end of the string. This would easily
| recharge
| a
| | | battery - 24 hours a day and cost next to nothing.
| | |
| | |
| | | "Simple Simon" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | Interesting that you can't read or figure out how to
| | | view the source code to find the specs I posted.
| | |
| | |
| | | "Bobsprit" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | Here it is, just add salt water and you get 12 VDC! When it
runs
| | down,
| | | simply rinse with fresh water, refill and away you go!
| | |
| | | Interesting that there are no output specs.
| | |
| | | RB
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
|

Got plans, specs or diagrams? I like to have a look and maybe build one to
test it.

CM

"Ligniere" wrote in message
rthlink.net...
| The MHD can be towed.

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Got plans, specs or diagrams? I like to have a look and maybe build one
to
test it.

CM

"Ligniere" wrote in message
rthlink.net...
| The MHD can be towed.

Don't get your hopes up. Gilligan's *brilliant* ideas are usually the
result of misunderstood scientific reports.




Regards


Donal
--

Careful dude..... my little buddy has the transponder frequency for your
EPRIB.... tick him off and it's spotlights at 0300hrs while you're sawing
off a piece with the ole' lady!!!

Ever read the sign..""QUIET GENIUS AT WORK!!" ?????


CM


"Donal" wrote in message
...
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| Got plans, specs or diagrams? I like to have a look and maybe build one
| to
| test it.
|
| CM
|
| "Ligniere" wrote in message
| rthlink.net...
| | The MHD can be towed.
|
| Don't get your hopes up. Gilligan's *brilliant* ideas are usually the
| result of misunderstood scientific reports.
|
|
|
|
| Regards
|
|
| Donal
| --
|
|
|

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Careful dude..... my little buddy has the transponder frequency for your
EPRIB....

Pah! I don't have an EPIRB. They are for wimps.

If I die at sea, then I will have died doing what I enjoy. I can only think
of *one* better way to go..... and I don't use an EPIRB when I'm having sex.
Do you?



Regards


Donal
--

Picture example of magnetohydrodynamic drive:

http://www.physics.brocku.ca/faculty...ges/f21019.jpg


Good paper on magnetohydrodynamic generator:

navier.stanford.edu/PIG/C4_S9.pdf

Note that Faraday (in 1831) pulled power from the Thames River via
magnetohydrodynamic generator principles. It has low conductivity and the
earth's field was used as the magnet so the output power wasn't high.


Here's another paper with experimental results:

adidacfellowship.org/Gary/MHD.pdf

The experimentor did not overcome the electrode-electrolyte interface
problems, nor the problems of ions in a moving fluid (ions don't move fast,
about the speed of the water so most are swept downstream).


If you use proper electrode design (make them have large surface area and
arrange the immersed potential polarity to add to the induced potential) and
use large magnets (like from a discarded microwave oven) you can get it to
work well enough to recharge batteries for a small size generator. You can
test it with a prototype made from a garden hose, salt water, sewing pins
for electrodes and an old magnetron magnet (from a microwave oven).

The principles are also using in Hall effect clamp on arterial blood flow
meters. The moving blood generates a voltage across the artery when a
magnetic field is applied.

I'll let Donal explain how to optimize the design and what other problems to
anticipate.


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Careful dude..... my little buddy has the transponder frequency for your
EPRIB.... tick him off and it's spotlights at 0300hrs while you're sawing
off a piece with the ole' lady!!!

Ever read the sign..""QUIET GENIUS AT WORK!!" ?????


CM


"Donal" wrote in message
...
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| Got plans, specs or diagrams? I like to have a look and maybe build
one
| to
| test it.
|
| CM
|
| "Ligniere" wrote in message
| rthlink.net...
| | The MHD can be towed.
|
| Don't get your hopes up. Gilligan's *brilliant* ideas are usually the
| result of misunderstood scientific reports.
|
|
|
|
| Regards
|
|
| Donal
| --
|
|
|

One last reference of interest:

http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/~agusta/review/motion.html


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Careful dude..... my little buddy has the transponder frequency for your
EPRIB.... tick him off and it's spotlights at 0300hrs while you're sawing
off a piece with the ole' lady!!!

Ever read the sign..""QUIET GENIUS AT WORK!!" ?????


CM


"Donal" wrote in message
...
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| Got plans, specs or diagrams? I like to have a look and maybe build
one
| to
| test it.
|
| CM
|
| "Ligniere" wrote in message
| rthlink.net...
| | The MHD can be towed.
|
| Don't get your hopes up. Gilligan's *brilliant* ideas are usually the
| result of misunderstood scientific reports.
|
|
|
|
| Regards
|
|
| Donal
| --
|
|
|