On 6/27/13 7:39 PM, Eisboch wrote:
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On 6/27/2013 5:29 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/27/13 5:25 PM, Eisboch wrote:
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On 6/27/13 4:46 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
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On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 14:03:11 -0400, iBoaterer
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Do you suppose that Zimmerman wasn't counseled on what to say, how to
act, etc?
Zimmerman has not said a word and I doubt he will although his meek
and soft voice might go a long way toward dismissing the ear witness
testimony about who was screaming for help. O'Mara has the police
tapes for that tho.
I think he was crying like a little girl when Martin was beating the
**** out of him but that just backs up the self defense claim.
I didn't ask whether he said anything (yet). I asked do you think that
Zimmerman wasn't counseled one what to say, how to act, etc.? You
are SO
positive that Martin beat Zimmerman, but what about the simple, easy
fact that there was NO DNA of Zimmerman's on Martin? Did he sanitize
his
hands before gasping his last breath?
If Zimmerman were Black and alive, and Martin were white and dead, the
Fox-ites would claim Zimmerman's wounds were self-inflicted.
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I didn't follow the early reports of this event closely. Didn't
Zimmerman have some bloody head wounds immediately following the
altercation?
Seems like I remember seeing or hearing about that in news reports. If
so, how did he get them?
Beats me. No witnesses. Maybe he was with a buddy who, after Zimmerman
shot the kid, bashed him about the head so it would look like self
defense, eh? 
If you don't think it was self defense, let's hear your version of the
story.
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I think Harry is already convinced that Zimmerman is guilty, was on top
of Martin, Martin was screaming for help and Zimmerman shot him.
But I think otherwise, based on the little bit of evidence presented so
far. Important to me was the forensic report that said there was a one
to two inch space between Martin's shirt and the entry point of
Zimmerman's round in his chest. Forensic evidence is damn good and can
be replicated in a lab.
It just doesn't compute if Martin was on his back on the ground with
Zimmerman on top of him. It makes all kinds of sense if they were
positioned the other way around.
However, if it is proven to the jury that Zimmerman instigated the
whole thing by following and/or harassing Martin in any way, I have a
feeling the jury will find him guilty and rightly so. I don't think
the "Stand your ground" statute should apply to a situation that he
instigated and caused to happen.
The legal beagles will say otherwise, stating that it's not a crime to
follow anyone or ask them what they are doing. But the members of the
jury are not lawyers. They will apply their common sense.
I think Zimmerman went looking for trouble and found it. He has an
interesting arrest record as a thug, and apparently he was either
carrying his piece or went back to the truck to get it, then chased the
kid down and maybe the kid said, "**** you," so hot-headed Zimmerman
shot him.
Luckily for Zimmerman, I'm not on the jury, eh?
I'm more interested in stand your ground laws outside the house being
****canned than I am in the specific outcome of this case. It's bad law,
reminiscent of the tales about the Old West.