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here you go JPS...
On 6/27/13 7:39 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"Hank©" wrote in message eb.com... On 6/27/2013 5:29 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 6/27/13 5:25 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 6/27/13 4:46 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 14:03:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Do you suppose that Zimmerman wasn't counseled on what to say, how to act, etc? Zimmerman has not said a word and I doubt he will although his meek and soft voice might go a long way toward dismissing the ear witness testimony about who was screaming for help. O'Mara has the police tapes for that tho. I think he was crying like a little girl when Martin was beating the **** out of him but that just backs up the self defense claim. I didn't ask whether he said anything (yet). I asked do you think that Zimmerman wasn't counseled one what to say, how to act, etc.? You are SO positive that Martin beat Zimmerman, but what about the simple, easy fact that there was NO DNA of Zimmerman's on Martin? Did he sanitize his hands before gasping his last breath? If Zimmerman were Black and alive, and Martin were white and dead, the Fox-ites would claim Zimmerman's wounds were self-inflicted. ------------------------------------------- I didn't follow the early reports of this event closely. Didn't Zimmerman have some bloody head wounds immediately following the altercation? Seems like I remember seeing or hearing about that in news reports. If so, how did he get them? Beats me. No witnesses. Maybe he was with a buddy who, after Zimmerman shot the kid, bashed him about the head so it would look like self defense, eh?  If you don't think it was self defense, let's hear your version of the story. -------------------------------------------- I think Harry is already convinced that Zimmerman is guilty, was on top of Martin, Martin was screaming for help and Zimmerman shot him. But I think otherwise, based on the little bit of evidence presented so far. Important to me was the forensic report that said there was a one to two inch space between Martin's shirt and the entry point of Zimmerman's round in his chest. Forensic evidence is damn good and can be replicated in a lab. It just doesn't compute if Martin was on his back on the ground with Zimmerman on top of him. It makes all kinds of sense if they were positioned the other way around. However, if it is proven to the jury that Zimmerman instigated the whole thing by following and/or harassing Martin in any way, I have a feeling the jury will find him guilty and rightly so. I don't think the "Stand your ground" statute should apply to a situation that he instigated and caused to happen. The legal beagles will say otherwise, stating that it's not a crime to follow anyone or ask them what they are doing. But the members of the jury are not lawyers. They will apply their common sense. I think Zimmerman went looking for trouble and found it. He has an interesting arrest record as a thug, and apparently he was either carrying his piece or went back to the truck to get it, then chased the kid down and maybe the kid said, "**** you," so hot-headed Zimmerman shot him. Luckily for Zimmerman, I'm not on the jury, eh? I'm more interested in stand your ground laws outside the house being ****canned than I am in the specific outcome of this case. It's bad law, reminiscent of the tales about the Old West. |
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