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X ` Man[_3_]

On 6/18/12 7:31 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:49:33 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 6/18/12 3:34 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 12:30:58 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On the other hand, I know plenty of liberal arts grads who are pulling
down six figure incomes at jobs with pretty decent benefits, and who
weren't trained by the navy.

Doing what?

Do you even know what "the liberal arts" are?

yes

I have friends who are professors at several local universities who are
earning six figure salaries, and they are all liberal arts grads.

My daughter's father in law would be surprised at that.e retired as a
history professor at a state university and he never made that much
money. He says his wife made more money some years as an ER nurse but
he admits she worked a lot harder than him.

He insisted that all his kids get degrees in science or engineering.

Most of my advertising, PR and marketing colleagues earn substantial six
figure salaries and bonuses.

That sounds right if they can sell but if you can sell you don't need
a degree.

There are many scientists at the NIH and other health and science
related agencies that earn in the six figures.

Those are science degrees aren't they? BYW are they government
employees? What grade? A 6 figure GS salary is rare.

We know at least a dozen psychotherapists who earn more than $100,000 a
year.

MDs OK

The highest salaried guy I know as a close friend, a recent retiree,
earned more than $500,000 a year at his job. He's a lit and history grad
of the University of Notre Dame.

Again doing what?

I know dozens and dozens of liberal arts grads earning well over
$100,000 a year. As far as I know, none were trained by the Navy.

I didn't say the navy was the only place you could get knowledge, just
that it was a good place to get it in a hurry.

18 weeks of a 8 hour a day school is equal to about 48 credit hours of
college in classroom time.

When you toss out the fluff courses kids pad out their schedule with
that is plenty of time.

I had closer to 10,000 hours of education at IBM and I have hundreds
of hours for my inspector license. I am not afraid of learning. I like
it. I just want to go at a faster pace.

GS 14s and 15s pay over $100,000 and in many markets, like this one,
there's a locality adjustment. Around here, it is about 25%. These
rankings are not rare around here. There are also federal jobs that are
off the GS chart and pay more.

We have some elite universities around here. Full professors can earn in
the mid $150,000 range.

Science degrees can fall under the "purview" of liberal arts.

This sounds like "rote learning and memorization" to me: "18 weeks of a
8 hour a day school is equal to about 48 credit hours of
college in classroom time." Not much time to think about what you are
learning and contemplating possibilities.

My retired friend ran a large and successful NGO.

Back in the day, I was a consultant to a labor union and for five years
I marketed its health plan to federal and postal workers. That means I
wrote and placed a lot of advertising, hired and trained people to
answer phones during open season, et cetera. When I started, the plan
had 20,000 enrollees. Four years later, it had nearly 600,000. What
changed? The marketing. My contact called for a reasonable monthly
fee...this was in the late 1970's and it was about $4,000 a month, plus
I got $1 for each new enrollee each year. You can do the math. And I'm
just an English major.