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On Tue, 03 May 2011 17:24:42 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 03 May 2011 12:54:24 -0700, wrote:

I believe things have changed a bit since Carter. Carter did what he
could.

He could have use a ground attack helicopter with air filters on the
engine intakes instead of the mine sweeping Sea Stallions they used.

He? So Carter was the one who decided what type of helicopter was
used? On what planet?

On the planet where Carter thought he should be micro managing
everything.

Please show us something to suggest Carter designated which type of
helicopter to fly.

If I was a terrorist I might laugh at 150,000 regular GIs but 2 dozen
SEALs would scare the **** out of me.

What risk did Bush take?

Invading Iraq?

You mean lying and expecting not to get caught.

I think he just believed what he was told. The intel came from the
Brits and we know now it was bogus. Why not blame them a little. Again
you want this both ways. On one hand you think he was totally out of
touch and didn't know anything and then you have him being some kind
of evil genius

He and/or Cheney fabricated the intelligence to suit his desire. You
don't have to be particularly smart to foster lies.

And you are saying the flawed info from the brits had nothing to do
with it?

I'm saying that it seems to me that there was conflicting information,
and that he should have done his due diligence to sort it out.
Instead, he decided to accept it without vetting, and Cheney attempted
to get at Joe Wilson by outing an undercover CIA agent.

He was on vacation for 1/3 of his presidency.

Does any president ever really get a vacation? The presidency follows
them wherever they go or I would really be worried about them walking
around natural disaster sites in Fumbuck kicking rubble.

He was sitting on his ranch enjoying himself. I'm sure he had lots of
interaction with all his policy makers and Congress in DC, at least in
between riding around his ranch and watching TV.

Feel free to defend him, but the fact is that he was AWOL and I'm not
talking about his "service" in the Texas Air National Guard.

It is just clear you do not understand how the president, any
president, travels. The White House comes with them.

It's clear that you're going to defend Bush no matter what. The "White
House" doesn't "come with them." They can do a bunch of stuff, but
it's not like you're on sight, talking to and meeting with all the
people.

What can't they do?

See previous. Sorry if you're having reading comprehension problems.

I do have some intimate information about exactly how the president
travels. My brother in law was the White House telephone support rep
pretty much living in EOB unless the president traveled, then he was
in the support plane. They took the whole White House switchboard with
them (a duplicate #5 crossbar, then later an ESS.) . He worked for
LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Carter and Reagan.
My neighbor did the same thing in the Air Force side, setting up the
secure data links for the phones, radios, computers and the
"football".
If they are at Camp David or their residence, all of that is already
there.
The president does not have to "see" anyone to get his job done.

Which has nothing to do with what I said previously.