On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:48:08 -0400, H the K
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 20:28:41 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

My 92 yr old dad had angioplasty this morn so I went to see him
afterwards. Mom and several sisters described what took place. He
had two arteries 98% clogged. I have for years wished they could
remove the stuff clogging the arteries in addition to using the
stent. My mom and sibs told me that they actually did this. I was
surprised and said I thought this could not be done due to the danger
of the "debris" causing a stroke. Apparently, the device whirls at
very high rpm and cuts it into such tiny pieces it causes no problem.
Doc said this could not be done 5 yrs ago. So, my 92 yr old dad now
has a heart that is prob better than mine. WOW.
Govt run health care would have no incentive to develop such a thing
in 5 yrs. My dad has pvt health ins, VA and medicare with his pvt
care paying most of it. Govt health care would simply say, "92 yrs
old, no reason to do much" but his mind is in perfect shape and I
expect he'll have 10 more years.

Talking out of your ass again.

My father just had a similar procedure done for clots in his legs and
medicare covered the cost.


Hehehe.

Froggy and most of the other righties here are almost always talking out
of their asses.

In health care insurance reform...the Republicans don't give a ****
about it, one way or the other. What they do care about is this: if the
Dems manage to get any sort of reasonable health care insurance reform
passed, it will mean death for the GOP for many elections to come.

Why? Because if there is decent reform and any sort of publc option, it
will have great appeal to unemployed and underemployed Americans and
even to employers if there is a way for them to get their workers
covered and slow the rising premiums they have to pay for health insurance.

The Republicans are on record as opposing these reforms. In reality,
they want no reform.

You can just see the ads now..."If you elect Republicans they *will*
repeal health care reform, the very health care reform that got health
insurance for your family."

Simple.

You're assuming voters can read and think.
Most voting levers are pulled with jerking knees.
A better option is to give the Reps what they really want.
Kill Medicare and all other forms of Fed assistance.
VA, Medicaid, etc, etc.
Cut Fed taxes to the bone and let the states fend for themselves.
That's what they're always whining about.
Let them old folks on Medicare lose their houses paying their medical
bills, and have the insurance company death panels pull the plug on
them.
That'll shut 'em up, and put the last nail in the coffin of the Rep
party.
Wouldn't bother me a bit. Nobody lives forever.
Be a real good show too. Have to stock up on popcorn.
Won't happen though.
Neither the Dems or Reps have the guts to stand by their so-called
principles.
Without a "public option" there will be no progress with health care
reform until things really go to hell in a handbasket.
In the meantime the only winners will be the insurance companies and
health care companies.
Obama has a big speech next week.
If he doesn't demand a public option he loses.
Be interesting to see if his guts match the Dem numbers in Congress.
That's my opinion.
I don't see much guts in the Dem party.
They should be kicking ass and telling the Reps to go get ****ed,
including the town hall whiners sucking Medicare tit and wanting all
that milk just for themselves.
Elections count. Supposed to anyway.

--Vic