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Default Socialized medicine.

Gene wrote:
On Sun, 31 May 2009 22:27:05 -0400, BAR wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Sun, 31 May 2009 21:11:16 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 31 May 2009 20:45:46 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 31 May 2009 20:18:25 -0400, John H
wrote:

Canada is not a great example of same:

" With respect to patient’s rights, waiting times and availability of
pharmaceuticals Canada places at the absolute bottom in the rankings.

Canada ranks dead last in the "Bang-for-the-Buck" index (Estonia is
first in the value-for-money-adjusted "Bang-for-the-Buck" index). "

http://tinyurl.com/mxq9ut


Socialized medicine may suck.... I have no personal experience. The US
has only ONE limited experiment in socialized medicine. It
administered by the "Department of Veterans Affairs." Anybody have
experience with this? Is it as bad as they say it is in Canada and
England?
There is also Medicare but they are going broke taking 14% of every
wage earned in the country and only covering about 12% of the
population.
I would certainly agree, that math doesn't work.

I am a great believer in "cigar box" economics. I've been called
"ignorant," but the concept has never failed me.

Those, "more educated" have explained to me how wrong I am, the
nuances of the post-industrial economy. I still think they are idiots.

If you know me, either way, I can't lose! :-)

Get the lawyers and bureaucrats out of medicine and throw the bad
doctors out on their asses. Costs will come down. And make it a pay as
you go system. Everyone needs to pull some money out of their pocket and
pay for their medical care. For those who have sustained service related
injuries it is part of their contract with the government to have those
medical issues covered by the government.


You major error, here, is that many, if not most, lawsuits are
frivolous.....


Balanced by caregivers posting record profits by charging $20 per
aspirin, etc.....

If you seriously want to engage in this one, I have documentary
evidence from my father's death where the hospital charged:

1) Fees for days and weeks after my father's death,
2) absurd costs to the tune of top dollar for prescriptions never
taken,.
3) doctor visits, which never happened, some after his death...
4) months of double billing Medicaid.....

I won't go on, but you get the picture....


Someone at the hospital should be in jail.