"Joe" wrote in message ...
OK Nellie, What's a better upwind rig for a 79 ftr with 50K lbs of
cargo? Not that I will give much merit to your opinion knowing you are
sitting on a mooring squaking about a boom repaired with old sewer
pipe that you said is "Better than original"


Let's get serious here before you waste your money and your dream on such an ill-conceived design. I checked your web site out where you had sketch drawings for you schooner that had a container on deck amidships. Dumb! Just plain dumb! You're trying to turn a sailing ship into a motorized container ship. Stupid and dysfunctional. You don't want that kind of weight on deck on a sailboat. You want in as low as possible to act as ballast.

So please redesign that abortion so the container can be lowered into the bilge amidship with some kind of waterproof sliding deck doors to cover it all up. I know why you're thinking two-masted schooner because with the container on deck amidship there is no room for a mast there.

Think out of the box boy. The main mast can double as a cargo boom. The mast can be a bipod set amidship with a roller furling main sail. A traditional Marconi rig would be best for upwind work but a bipod mast with boomless roll up mainsail would to the weatherly job almost as well. You could even consider a ketch sailplain though not as efficient upwind it is better on a reach.

Rightful place?
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3260/...3687758d_o.jpg
USCG must be wrong huh Nellie girl?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/65/16...ecb6fa.jpg?v=0
Cool pilot house huh?

http://www.tweemastschoener.nl/
A bit to fancy

Ugly and they have no place on a sailboat. And the Coast Guard knows nothing about boats. Didn't they just have to recall several dozen of their latest cutters because of **** poor design?

So retard....many fine sailing ships have a pilot house. I know that's
not a priority for a putz like you who sits on the same mooring ball
for 15 plus years and watches the world go by on a 20 something ft day
sailor, but for sailor who might put 16 hours a day on the wheel it's
nice.

See what 'nice' got you on "Red Cloud." I maintain had you been using an outside helm you would not have tried to continue to bash your way to weather. You would have turned tail and run before it (prior to destroying your rudder linkage) like you should have had you been able to gauge the true force of the elements. You have to be outside for this.

You would have not met schedule but you would not have sunk your vessel either. And it's all because you were sequestered in your 'comfy' pilot house. Ask yourself what is more important. Being comfortable or being safe?


Wilbur Hubbard