On Sep 16, 8:39*am, wf3h wrote:
On Sep 15, 11:29*pm, wrote:

On Sep 15, 11:40*pm, wf3h wrote:

On Sep 15, 9:55*pm, wrote:

The truth of your free health care is that I get to pay for mine and I
get to pay for yours

which you do now. it's just more expensive now than it would be under
universal care.

I get first dibs at the doctors under the present system. *And why
shouldn't I? *I'm paying for it.

so you enjoy having average health care for inflated prices?

I enjoy paying my own way.

yep sounds republican.

Yeh, that whole, ummm, personal responsibility thingy really upsets
some folks.

Under the squirrels and the hawkes system, I pay for theirs and I pay
for mine, and some else says who gets dibs on appointments and
treatments.

never heard of an HMO did you? they tell you what doctors you'll go
to, what treatment they'll pay for, etc.

I could have selected the HMO route and paid less. Instead I selected
a Preferred Choice plan.

Under the plan where I pay for my health care and I pay for your
health care, I get less than the HMO. Why would I want that?

you really HAVE swallowed the GOP kool aid, haven't you? you don't
have control over your health care at all. your boss does. your
insurance company does.

As it stands now, I can change plans and I can change bosses.

Under the plan where I pay for me and I pay for you, I have fare fewer
choices because there just isn't enough money to go around.

I guess I should work harder, huh?

you don't.

You don't.

of course, if you lose your job and don't want health care, just
refuse it...for you and your kids. i won't mind

That, in part, is what motivates me to keep working. *If only we could
motivate the little squirrel and the little hawke to work...

and if your company decides you and 5000 other folks need to get
canned?

Then I move. There aren't enough jobs in Ohio to soak up another
5,000 unemployed. Or... I could become a short-sale "investor."

oh. you're SO valuable your company would NEVER do that....just like
they didnt at ATT, TI, HP, etc.

Not at all. My neck is on the chopping block right now. I'll
probably know by Christmas. I'm planning on moving should my job
evaporate. Sayonara Ohio, and Ohio can say sayonara to my tax base,
my education, and my earnings capacity. Florida, Texas, or Missouri
would like to have me in their work force.