JimC wrote:

Ganz, I would be satisfied if you could provide evidence of just 10 or
15 Macs breaking up and sinking. Under any conditions. - Could you do
that for us Ganz?


Jim, I would be satisfied if you could provide evidence of just 10 or 15
Macs actually venturing out in conditions that might cause other boats
to break up and sink. - Could you do that for us Jim?

Ok, we'll settle for 5.

How about just 2?