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 On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:33:41 -0700, "Capt. JG" 
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 On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:03:36 -0700, "Capt. JG" 
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 On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:59:59 -0400, "Glenn Ashmore" 
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"Bob Crantz"  wrote
 You could always replace the in cabin switches with manual/remote
 circuit
 breakers (RCCBs) and place the circuit breaker control switches out 
 in
 the
 cockpit. That would keep the power circuit the same as you have it 
 now
 and
 the controls in both places would be exact duplicates, no need for
 three
 way switches, etc. You would know if they were on or off too.
 Amen!
 Bob Crantz
Well, they already rejected a latching relay as "to complex" even 
though
they are readily available, cheaper, easier to install and more 
reliable
than a 3-way circuit.   An RCCB costs 20 times as much and impossible 
to
find except from specialized aviation or industrial control sources.
 Or, if remembering to turn them on or off is a problem, you could 
 simply
 get in
 the habit of turning on the NAV lights when you get underway as part 
 of
 the same
 ritual when you get other things ready, and turn them off when you
 return
 and
 put things away. That means you can verify they are on by a physical
 check, too,
 when you go forward to untie the safety tie around your furled 
 headsail.
 No
 modifications needed. It's perfectly acceptable to run the NAV lights
 whenever
 underway, even at high noon on a sunny day. These days, with LED NAV
 lights, it
 doesn't present much of a problem of running down the batteries.
 Steaming light can be rigged to go on and off with the engine.
This is an interesting idea... I don't have LEDs, but still... I could
always switch over to LEDs, which I've been thinking about doing also.
Given
the conditions, it wouldn't be totally bizarre to have them on in
preparation for the summer fog we know we'll get at some point.
 I figure that all the other plans I've heard involved spending money
 and doing a fair amount of work. Seems like this plan would be less
 money and work, and ultimately simpler and just as effective. You even
 get the bonus of increased reliability, and much lower power
 consumption. My running lights, which used to draw over 3 amps, now
 draw .3 amps TOTAL for the three combined. Especially on a sailboat
 with minimal ability to charge batteries, that's a big plus.
I'm going to check it out... the LEDs shouldn't be a problem, but I'm not
particularly gifted when it comes to electical stuff (like getting the 
stern
light to work with engine on... just as likely to get it right or fry
something and have to call the fire dept.) LOL
 If you have a key switch that must be turned to operate the engine, it
 may also have a switched 12 volts terminal for accessories and gauges
 that get power when you turn it on. If not, you could change out the
 keyswitch to one that does have that.
Yes. It should have a switched 12vdc terminal. Next time I'm at the boat, 
I'm going to check.
The two lights that would need to come on when the engine is running would 
be the stern and steaming lights. I'm trying to think of another situation 
when I'd want either of those two on. I can't think of a situation, but if 
there is one, it would be nice to have a bypass to force them on.
Golf was brutal... I think I'll stick to sailing. LOL
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