Once upon a time in a magickal land far far away the being called Floyd L.
Davidson stirred from its deep slumber and pronounced to usenet:

: "Steve Leyland" wrote:
:: Once upon a time in a magickal land far far away the being called
:: Floyd L. Davidson stirred from its deep slumber and pronounced to
:: usenet:
::
::: "Steve Leyland"
::: wrote:
::::
:::: I have been a vegetarian for the last 25 years, jeanne.
:::: have you ever considered not killing innocent creatures and
:::: consuming their rotting cadavers as food?
:::
::: You are a hypocrit, and an ignorant one at that.
::
:: no, I'm sincere about it. oh and save the insults, I'm not looking
:: for a flamewar.
:
: Those are *not* gratuitous personal insults. They are
: precisely what your statement above logically leads to.

logically perhaps in your prejudiced mind, but certainly not in mine.
:
: Yes, it *is* insulting. If you don't like that, then
: don't make statements that describe you as an ignorant
: hypocrite.

I suggest you look up the meaning of the word hypocrite before you accuse
people; I am posting my honest considered opinions without any pretence of
superiority for them. I have the freedom of speech to state my opinion just
as you have the right to disagree with it.
:
::: You think plants are not alive, that they don't die so
::: that you can eat them?
::
:: I have to eat food to stay alive; I see vegetarianism as the least
:: harmful and most ethical method of that.
:
: It is an absurd claim though, and only made by ignorant
: hypocrites. You are saying that what *he* kills to stay
: alive is wrong and excessive, while what *you* kill to
: stay alive is merely an ethical means of living.

*in my opinion*, yes.
:
: That is *not* logical. The only difference is "he"
: versus "you". That makes you a bigot.

once again you accuse with words which are entirely inapplicable. a bigot
will refuse to listen to another's opinion, whereas I'm entirely open to
debate.
:
::: You think that no animals die so that your veggies can
::: be grown and marketed?
::
:: yes.
:
: Go visit a farm.
:
: What do you think happens when a field for vegetables is
: plowed? What happens when the tractor goes over it with
: a disk? It is a *massive* kill off of animal life! And
: many mechanized harvesting methods are equally deadly to
: animals (consider mowing a field of hay... and the
: thousands of small animals that die in the process).

well that sucks and I truly wasn't aware of that. perhaps there's a way to
harvest manually without this murder? of course that'll increase costs so
won't happen.
:
: Besides that, *plants* are living beings that are killed
: to allow you to eat. How can you say that the living
: organism killed to feed *me* is has greater (or lesser)
: significance as a life form than the organisms killed to
: feed *you*!

plants are not sentient beings and IMHO they suffer a lot less pain than an
animal to provide my needed sustenance. according to your "logic" an
ethical person should starve to death.
:
::: Tell you what, oh ignorant one, a lot less death occurs
::: when a single whale is killed to provide 40,000 pounds
::: of meat than the number of deaths that result in
::: stocking your local supermarket with loaves of bread for
::: just one day!

whales were an endagered species until their hunting was banned by most
civilised nations.
::
:: okay go on then I'll bite. please do educate me as to precisely how
:: many animals have to die to grow a field of organic wheat and
:: process it into bread?
:
: Thousands!
:
:
: On a different note, I see you are into other forms of
: hypocrisy:
:
:: "When the Earth has been ravaged and the animals are dying, a tribe
:: of people from all races, creeds and colours shall put their faith in
:: deeds, not words, and make the land green again. They shall be known
:: as Warriors of the Rainbow, protectors of the environment."
::
:: Native American prophecy
:
: "Native American prophecy" my ass. That's some white
: man's made up fable. You wouldn't know a Native prophecy
: if you heard one.

I'll inform my Hopi friend that his ancestors were talking crap then.

--
Steve Leyland
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Every hero becomes a bore at last. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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muppet now and move on. Even the briefest of searches on his past
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bear, uk.rec.motorcycles
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"I didn't delete any part of your meaningless, pointless, worthless
post in order to clearly demonstrate that you are the nemesis of
Usenet: the crossposting, non-editing, diagram-creating worthless,
dickless, brainless, gutless, mindless, ball-less, spineless, flaccid,
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POS that takes up more bandwidth than a despicable binary-poster, and
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Admiral Halsey, alt.sailing.asa
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"I went to the Garden of Love,
And saw what I never had seen;
A Chapel was built in the midst,
Where I used to play on the green.

And the gates of this Chapel were shut
And "Thou shalt not," writ over the door;
So I turned to the Garden of Love
That so many sweet flowers bore.

And I saw it was filled with graves,
And tombstones where flowers should be;
And priests in black gowns were walking their rounds,
And binding with briars my joys and desires."

William Blake.
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"When the Earth has been ravaged and the animals are dying, a tribe of
people from all races, creeds and colours shall put their faith in
deeds, not words, and make the land green again. They shall be known as
Warriors of the Rainbow, protectors of the environment."

Native American prophecy


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