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Default Jim Manzari - Cruisers Snared in Australia

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On Apr 13, 9:36 am, the_bmac wrote:
Not sure, but if in Australia they use the first-past-the-post electoral model, un-representative,
un-Democratic anomalies can occur, such as we see in Canada where a dimwit Republican wannabe gets to
be Prime Minister with 30-35% of the popular vote. Polls done by conservative newspapers show 70% of
Canadians NOT in support of our soldiers being in Afghanistan fighting Bush's mythical "war on
terror", yet our PM keeps us there.


Mythical war on terror? Tell that to the 3000+ killed in NYC by the
Taliban, based in Afganstan. BTW 25 of the people killed on 9-11 were
Canadian citizens, not that you seem to give a f*&k.


I've obviously struck a nerve here. At any rate, try not to be so dim in your responses. This "don't
give a ****" crap spews straight out of your Ann Coulter handbook, and she's a dumb as a post. How do
you think that makes you sound? I think your certainty about just who is responsible for the walking
chunks of human excrement who caused those aircraft to strike those buildings is premature.

These people are common criminals, heroin traders and murderers. The
al-Queda and their Afgahn hosts the Taliban kill, tourture and maim
the innocent to control 75% of the worlds heroin traffic. They do so
under the guise of Islam. Islam is against terror, Islam is for
understanding and termperance! These people headed by Osama bin
Landen, the Taliban the al-Qaeda terrorist camps have held hostage a
great religion for long enough! Now the truth is comming out about the
Taliban and Osama bin Laden. Let us make sure that there are no more
bin ladens!


Interesting, creative, passionate, but sadly irrelevant; which brings us to the funny part. ruth?
Some of you Americans have a memory that only goes back about 5.5 years. You perhaps don't know, or
would like to forget; which US Government agency funded and trained Bin Laden and the Mujahideen in
their fight against the USSR in the 80's; which US Government agencies and officials promised Bin
Laden and the Mujahideen all manner of financial aid and support as reward for fighting against the
Russians at that time and which US government agencies and officials abandoned Bin Laden and the
Mujahideen like they were bags of dog **** after the Russians finally gave up and left Afghanistan.
Who do you think created these monsters, Einstein? Just who do you think are al-Qaeda and the
Taliban? They used to be your allies ya ****in maroon.

BTW, why were Bin Laden family members allowed to fly out of the US in the days after Sept. 11 when
any good ol' American boy couldn't even do a run-up in a C-152?

But whether this rightard swing in Australia explains a Customs
regime that seems to be out of control is an open question.


Right, they should just allow anyone, at any time, to sail in on a
breeze. So what if they do not follow proper up to date custom
procedures. It's not like a terrorist would attack them....now is it?


Straw man, but nice try.
Do any of those people cited in those articles look like terrorists to you? Do the actions of the
Customs officials in these stories sound like rational behaviour to you? Of course given that you
seem as happy as Larry to have had your constitutional rights violated by the idiot Bush, perhaps
fascist behaviour such as has been described has become normal for you. After all, you're safe, yes?
and you're on good terms with your local librarian, yes? But you probably only take out the "good"
books, yes? Nothing to worry about there, and who cares if the NSA listens to your cellphone calls,
yes? You're a good American with nothing to hide, yes?

Don't like it, don't go to OZ.


Okay, you don't seem too bright so I'll recap the thread for you. Nice people make mistakes and get
reamed by Australian Customs and legal system. Some Australians post their discomfort and shame over
these circumstances, noting a change since a certain right-wing politico dillhole has come to power.
The point is, stupid, that these sailors have been abused by an Australian system whose officials have
acted with the discretionary skill of turnips, now seemingly motivated by the same state-sponsored
fear and paranoia you seem to think is justified.

What a rube!