On 30 Jan 2006 16:53:02 -0600, Dave wrote:

To settle a discussion I'm having off-list, has anyone ever experienced,
witnessed or heard of sinking a Pearson Ensign by burying the rail and
taking water over the gunwale?

It's easy enough to believe since they are not self bailing and have
relatively heavy ballast. Any kind of heavy weather knockdown or
spinnaker broach could certainly do it. People were sinking Solings
with a great deal of regularity until they were made self bailing.

The problem with J24s is a limited range of positive stability and
cockpit lockers that tend to pop open. They have also been turtled
and sunk in the right conditions. I used to know a guy who had done
that on Long Island Sound, good sailor too.