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in article , John Fereira at
wrote on 12/31/05 2:36 PM:

"Fred Klingener" wrote in
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in article ,
at wrote on 12/30/05
6:46 PM:

Hello - Am wondering if anyone has had experience with using the
Crazy Creek Canoe Chair II in an Alumacraft canoe..
My partner and I have been canoeing in the BWCA and Quetico for
years. This past summer we thought it might make sense to add a
little comfort to the trip so we purchased the Crazy Creek chairs
and strapped them onto our canoe seats. The seats themselves were
very comfortable, but we also gradually noticed that the canoe felt
'tippy' and slightly unstable. ...
realized that the backrest itself was causing the problem. When we
would lean back into the seat, our body (from the hips to the
shoulder blades) was essentially locked into the back rest - the
slightest leaning resulted in a leverage being applied laterally on
the canoe, causing it to want to tip over. A fully loaded canoe
could manage for awhile, but an empty canoe was downright dangerous.
...

Try a kayak. Nice seat with a back on it, and your ass is ain't
sittin' above the water line.

OP has the right analysis, I think. It's not the mass of the seat
itself but the way it interferes with the (reflexive, especially in a
long-time paddling team) balance adjustments in the upper body.

That's pretty easy to confirm while sitting in a chair. Sit in a chair with
your chest slightly forward and then lean back and forth with your shoulders
and you'll find that your upper body can move independantly of your lower
body. Lean back into the seat and try the same and you'll find that it's
difficult to move your upper body without your lower body shifting as well.

In a boat that may be rocking underneath you, if your lower body can move
independantly, you can maintain your center of gravity with your upper body.

It really has nothing do with was a kayak verses a canoe.

This group needs an enema to start the new year.