United we stand ???/ Come on harry,,, look what is happening to
manufacturing now,, jobs are vanishing left and right,, all because of your
"'United we stand""" theory.


Harry, you said

"""The union is a group of workers who band together to help level the
playing field when negotiating with their employer over wages, hours and
working conditions.''"

You think this was necessary? For these people to "band" together, to force
unreasonable remunerations, hours, working conditions, etc etc? You think
that is necessary? Why because your own self worth is nothing? So why should
the employer who has the most risk have to keep you hired on, costing
everyone in the firm money, because you cannot carry your own.
So you need the gun to the head leverage, all this does is drive your
product to far too expensive and knock you out of the competitive league.
I think your spinning here Harry,,,, Lets look at what else you said...

"""United we stand; divided we fall. Works for countries, works for
workers."""

Come on harry, you do not sound too united to me, all see you do is bash
your country's objectives to rid the world of terrorism and American and
Christian killers. Your objecting to your country's efforts to make the
world a more peaceful place, with less poverty and less disease.
Unless you were visited by three ghosts last night in your sleep, I figured
you were so much against Bush's agendas that you were ready to leave
America. Now your saying ""United we stand""" """Works for countrys, works
for workers""" Well, to get back on point,, there is a difference between
workers and unionized workers.
Non unionized workers are compensated based on their skills, performance,
where as unionized labor is compensated based on their collective, banded
together, strong arm, many times violent, fighting, (or you call it
negotiating) efforts.

See, me, I am paid for what I am worth,,, You harry ,,, not the same, I
think your remunerations are more like welfare, you get it, but you do not
earn it. Sure you are successful in your "negotiations" whether they are
violent negotiations or not. Because you threaten to shut the plant down
should you not get your demands,,, some negotiations,,, LOL,, Well, now you
managed to shut the country's manufacturing down. You unions are directly
responsible for today's economic uncompetitiveness.
When Henry Ford brought in the Army when that union rebelled, they should
have made a more stronger message.
Besides, I do not need a union leader to tell me when to work, when to have
break, when to have a ****, when to speak, when to eat, when to drink
another coffee, when to breath, when to push that button and not do this
job, or that job, only do my job, and nothing more, etc etc. I feel more
pride and self worth doing things my way. Remember, only 17% of U.S. is
unionized and only 28% of Canadian workers are unionized. So collectively
you strong arms have violently managed to chock the entire workforce.
Sorry, but it fits so well here harry,,,, looks like ya gotta give the old
coconut another shaking,,,,






"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Tuuk wrote:


The union is simply a tool to use against your employer and maximize
your
takings from your firm.

The union is a group of workers who band together to help level the
playing field when negotiating with their employer over wages, hours and
working conditions.

United we stand; divided we fall. Works for countries, works for workers.