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John H
 
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Default 'Real' Economy Still in Downslide

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 17:37:06 -0500, " Tuuk"
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No,, my comments are in regards to the unionized teachers in the west who
every single year strike right before exam time and have ruined so many
students education because of their own greed. Teachers here in the west are
similar to labor unions. So uncompetitive and selfish and failures.
I see it at the university levels. Domestic students are entering the
universities without being able to read or write properly. They have no
learning skills and are forcing the university system to reduce the load as
to not embarrass the students and universities with the low scores.
The international student who wishes to study in the west simply does
circles around our domestic students. Circles. Many universities now have to
separate the two students as they are at different levels. I am constantly
asked to advise students and I say the same thing,,,, finish your degrees
over there. Their education system over there in the East for example is
unbelievably better than ours. The tuition fees are what one of our text
books costs for a term and their text books are about 2 dollars Canadian.
Now,, before you say something stupid. Their text books are written by the
same publishers as here, yet our university students will pay around 125
U.S. for the exact same text book, from same publisher, looks identical yet
they will pay about 1.50 U.S. for it. Only difference is the language it is
written in.
Now, the teachers there are real, they are respected by the students, no
first name basis, no cell phones ringing in class, homework must be done and
they are not simply given A+ for attendance as they do in the west.

So, the teachers are similar here in the west to the lazy slob union
workers, same mentality and when the teachers cry,,, the students suffer,,,
forcing the west even further to an uncompetitive position globally.
Teachers in the west make around 50,000 per year, they have summers off,
they have all holidays off, and they work from say 9am to 3pm. Many spares
during the day also. Don't give me any of your **** like '"marking tests in
the evening"' give your stupid heads a shake for that one,,, or "" hours of
preparation time""' ya for smoking or drugs,,, or ""coaching a football
team''"

No,, teachers here in the west have systematically ruined the future for us
here in the west. We now have to rely on immigration for long term survival.
Just look at Canada's immigration policy for proof. Canada aims to get
500,000 immigrants every year. Canada needs this. Canada needs imputs of
knowledge, skills, technology,, and especially taxpayers. Last year Canada
only received 247,000 immigrants and this is a concern.
So at the governmental level, there is a recognition of ignorant labor here
already, unions and teachers have an effect that is visible so we are
counting on immigration to save our asses. Thanks to all you union dummies.


Whew! What a rant. You seem to be strictly in a 'blame teacher' mode,
so I'm not about to address your whole post.

Teaching is *not* a 9 to 3 job.

Yes, many domestic students are entering universities without the
required abilities. Why? Why do the universities allow their entry? By
accepting students at the bottom of the heap, the universities must
either ensure the failure of the students or 'dumb down' the courses
so the students pass. Why accept the students in the first place?
Doing so simply removes any incentive for student effort in high
school.

What is there about the educational system in the East that you find
so enticing? Could it be that the students get 'tracked' into a
university or vocational track early on? Would this concept cause
parents to be interested in the educational process?

That's enough for now.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!