Same way I get it from your post. When someone has disdain for success and
then tries to rationalize it with rhetoric, then what can I say? Which
political system thinks like that? 'Bring down' those wages Watt says.
Why? Ever thought about increasing world-wide productivity, local markets
and those abroad? Where there are people and resources, there is room for a
who new economy. The US isn't the only place to produce products and to
sell them. China could do it all on their own if the Communist government
got out of the way. Squelch a free market in the name of 'fairness' or
'equalizing wages' or any other non-free, non-motivating artificial
philosophy and you're dead in the water ...doomed to be nothing more than
another philosophical failure.

When people from poor nations come to the US, their first question is "Where
are the poor people?". Yes, there are poor people here ...many in hopeless
situations, but it wasn't caused by capitalism. It's caused by drugs,
promiscuity, and lack of effort. It's a behavioral issue. I know that in
some environments that you'd have to be nearly super human to overcome the
culture/attitudes in order for you to succeed and that's very sad. That's
one of the factors that leads to these problems, but it's still a behavioral
problem. People have to believe in themselves and in their ability to
succeed, but in many areas that is asking a bit too much. I wish I had a
solution. I really do ...I'm not trying to be mean here, just objective.
And again, unless you live here, you are speaking from a vicarious
experience at most so don't get too bent out of shape on philosophies until
your country proves itself to be our equal.

If governments spent more time getting out of the way, then more people
would produce more and sell more and live better ...it's a deceptively
simple equation that we've proved works. If in a free society, people
choose to live on excuses instead of actions, then who are we to blame?

A friend of mine from India came here and went to college, graduating
without any school loans and with a good GPA. Under the agreement that this
person was constrained by, they were not allowed to work off campus. They
were not allowed to drive. In those conditions and without any financial
sponsor, this person succeeded because they chose to. People need to
understand the value in that, what places like the US provide ...the
opportunity to succeed if you are willing to make the effort. People here
have no excuses that cannot be overcome by their own free will.

And BTW, before you say something like "doing whatever they can from the
purse", how about if you say "they should be doing whatever they can by the
sweat of their brow and the innovations in their head" instead? Rather than
play the victim, shouldn't they choose to be the success? This is what this
country was built on, the attitude of choosing to succeed. There is much to
emulate nowadays, so why don't they?

Brian


"Old Nick" wrote in message
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On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:32:42 -0700, "Brian D"
wrote something
......and in reply I say!:

How on earth do you get "socialist" out of what is written by Mr Watt?

Apart from that, try arguing the point, without the invective and
labelling.

Many lands that "experience a truly free capitalist society where
innovation and free market rule are what provide people with their
life's dreams" also causes extreme poverty for those unable, for many
reasons often beyond their control, or unwilling because of their
moral outlook, to take whatever they can whenever they can from the
purse.

Spoken like a true Canadian socialist who's never experience a truly free
capitalist society where innovation and free market rule are what provide
people with their life's dreams. I would recommend that you try it before
you judge it.

2. Labour costs in North America and Europe are out of sight and need to
come down. The whole object of the violent union demonstrations at the
Seattle WTO conferene was to try and impose quotas against lower cost
goods from countries where labour costs are lower. The US unions bussed
in
thousands of people to throw rocks at police officers. It worked because
............
retail jobs to locals, or the US ecomony will fail. Yes, the unions are
spreading malicious propaganda about "workers rights" overseas and about
job loses at home, because wages have been so good that North Amercian
unions have lost their reason for being and lost so many members they
are
at their lowest point in decades. They are trying to scare people to
build
up their membership again.

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