"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Butch Davis wrote:
So, Harry. What major military bases are located in Duval and Clay
Countys, FL? Interesting that you mention the most cases that "ended up
in the civilian courts". These cases were obviously cases that were
investigated off the military bases. Civilian courts have no
jurisdiction over crimes commited by military personnel on military
bases.

Alcahol abuse has long been a problem amongst military personnel. There
is something in the culture that carries forward into the present the
habits developed decades ago. Eventually the culture will change but
change lags behind the civilian world.

One thing that has changed dramatically is that a DUI arrest for a
military person is an absolute career ender. If an officer gets a DUI
the officer will never again be promoted and will by forced out under the
two time nonselect rules. Not sure how the NCO Corps is affected but
imagine it's about the same. A private or corporal might survive a DUI
arrest but even that is doubtful. There are, of course, other
unforgivabe sins in the culture. I'd imagine wife beating could well be
one of them.

During my 35+ years on active duty much of my statesdide time was in the
DC area. I was and remain blissfully unaware of a significant problem
with spouse abuse amongst military personnel. But, as the military is
simply a cross section of the civilian world I'd imagine the problem
exists and possibly at rates a bit higher than usual due to the extremely
high stress environment in which most military personnel serve.

Regardless of all that I consider the average military member to be a
hero and deserving of just a wee bit of slack and respect.

IRT the question of wheather or not shooting the enemy is fun... IMO,
shooting the enemy is one hell of a lot more fun than being shot by the
enemy.

Butch
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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LaBomba182 wrote:

Subject: OT Soldier mindset
From: "basskisser"


He added, "You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around
for five years because they didn't wear a veil," Mattis continued. "You
know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell
of a lot of fun to shoot them."


Sounds good to me.

Capt. Bill


In Duval County, Florida, and in two adjacent counties, including Clay
County, the "profession" with the highest incidence of wife beating cases
that ended up in the civilian courts was U.S. military. This was the case
in the mid 1990s, and it was so bad that military base commanders were
forced into contracting out dozens of new cases each month to
non-military counselling professionals. Substance abuse, mainly alcohol,
was also a serious problem.





It really doesn't matter what the bases were, but I recall there was the
base at Mayport, the Naval Air Station off Roosevelt Boulevard, and
another base, since closed, off 103rd street.

The Dan Rather school of reporting. If it bolsters my argument even if it
isn't factual then I should be able to use it.

And the point was that there are asses in the US military who abuse their
spouses, just as there are asses in Afghanistan who abuse women there, so
for that Marine to point out the abuse of Afghanis as a reason to shoot
them is a tad disingenuous. If abusing women were his criteria, he doesn't
need to go to Afghanistan to find likely targers.

There are asses in Maryland that abuse their wives too.

That Marine is a well respected General Officer.

Better to kill the enemy before he kills you.