Harry Krause wrote:
K. Smith wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
K. Smith wrote:
LaBomba182 wrote:
Subject: albin 28 flush deck
From: "NOYB"
"fishless" wrote in message
lkaboutboats.com...
I just purchased a 28 te new. Anyone have fuel consumption with
the 315
yanmar?
I had a patient tell me that his Albin 28 cruised at 18 knots with
a burn rate of 13 gph. I found those numbers hard to believe, but
amazing if true. Let us know.
A new 28 True World Marine (planning hull) with a 315 Yanmar on a
jack shaft
does 30 mph cruise while burning approx. 6-7 gph. And 40 mph top
end burning 10 - 11 gph
Capt. Bill
The boating magazines print this type of nonsense all the time,
everyone knows they're inexperienced simpletons, but it's well out
of order for the manufacturers to even allow such false marketing BS
to remain uncorrected.
Actually, the inexperienced simpleton is you. Most of the boating
magazines that publish "testing results" know how to hook up and read
a fuel flow meter. And their writers actually have access to boats.
Unlike you.
Also try to keep in mind my OBs like Yanmar use Toyota diesels as
the core, so I just "might" have better first hand knowledge of this
than most here; but hey always happy to check anything, so what on the
point information have you got to say????? what?? nothing on the fuel
usage grams/KW/hr??? nothing???......nothing at all??? as usual.
You don't know feces from shoepolish.
My comment was that the magazines that actually do testing of fuel flow
or consumption actually do these tests and come up with legitimate
figures. and that they don't just make up numbers and publish them. If I
read an evaluation of the boat in question in Boating, and it was
accompanied by "test" results, I would be those results would be for
real. While the magazine doesn't publish a lot of negative info about
the boats it looks over, it doesn't fake statistical data on boat tests.
I didn't say "they" faked it what I did say & maintain is;
The boating magazines print this type of nonsense all the time, everyone knows they're inexperienced simpletons,
they're just too inexperienced to challenge what they're told!! Again so
that even you may understand, a fuel flow check will tell you how much
fuel some (NB some) petrol engines are using & the "flow" meters are
reasonably accurate.
However when it comes to diesel engines it's more complicated,
certainly it's possible to set up a flow meter to give you the fuel used
readout, but it's more than any of your magazine simpletons know about,
so they never do it (because they can't:-))
What they do is just parrot the numbers given them by the seller!!!
without any understanding or warning that this number might be just
marketing BS.
Indeed right there any magazine worth anything would be saying gee this
claim is unsubstantiated in any real fashion, unchecked by us & is
inconsistent with the known HP vs diesel consumption requirements of
boats in this class, if the seller wants to promote the number it
probably means most everything else they say is suspect??? Is it that
anything else they know can't or won't readily be checked is also BS???
Is the hull layup & materials as claimed??? the base metal of the
fittings?? the work quality in general???? Hmmm a magazine could get a
real rep with readers, not so good with the advertisers they're really
chasing.
You claim to be in "union publishing" yet you don't even seem to have a
clue about that Krause, the "magazines" get 2/5 or 3/8 of not much back
from magazine "sales" to dreamers like you, after the distribution,
retailer, returns etc in other words their income is from "paid"
advertising, & that's why they are just another arm of marketing.
How hard is it to go back to the engine manufacture or do the numbers
themselves, not only will the most basic of effort uncover the fuel
consumption numbers are a lie but worse, given the known state of how
diesel engines work in this universe the spruiked numbers are impossible.
Remember chucky's "test" on the other 28ftr??? a load of parroted
marketing BS nothing more.
I believe the fuel flow figures quoted by the original poster were from
an ad, not from an independent test.
Your OBs? What a crock of crap. Your claim that you "manufacture" some
sort of diesel outboard is nothing but bullship. No one has ever seen
one, no one has ever seen an ad for one, no one has ever seen a plant
where you "manufacture" them, no one has ever seen a box in which you've
shipped one, and there's no readily available information around that
indicates you have any involvement in a going venture that manufactures
anything. That monstrosity of a rusty kit-based "outboard" that you
depict on the back of your clapped-out, piece of crap boat wouldn't sell
as a boat anchor.
Dear dear dear you're a jealous little liar aren't you?? I have never &
don't make claims, however as far as Toyota based diesel marine engines
go I do claim to have some understanding; but hey if anyone else wants
to claim they use them & have different numbers, well let's hear it I'll
be very very interested.
Diesel engines are much more fuel efficient that petrol engines HP vs
HP but they are also "mostly" (not all) heavier HP vs HP the raw numbers
would say you can save 25-30% on fuel consumption using a diesel, but
the extra weight etc etc means you will more likely see something closer
to 20% because it takes more HP to push a heavier boat & the faster a
boat is traveling the more impact any extra weight has.
A 28ft boat doing 40 mph on 11 usgals/hr is just away with the fairies
stuff & any experienced boat person would immediately call it for what
it is, just as I call you as an uneducated lying union thug.
K