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DSK wrote:
Vito wrote:
His name was Yeshuah (phonetially) but that doesn't decline in Latin so
Romans called him Jesus as you say.
It's a matter of pronunciation, which is shaped by local culture, and
spelling, which varies widely even within the same language.
Without building a time machine and going back to Judea circa 20CE,
there is no way to tell for sure how Jesus' name was pronounced. But the
different ways it is transcribed gives a clue good enough to go on.
... Most wrongly believe his full name was
Jesus Christ.
Sure. Most people don't read.
Jesus Christ is as well documented a historical figure as almost anybody
except perhaps Alexander III of Macedon ("the Great").
On the contrary. Much of what is written was penned by people who had
never
seen the man relying on word of mouth stories.
Wrong. The compilers of the Gospel had a large amount of material to go
on, and while what they included in the New Testament was certainly
screened for politically correct content, they did not destroy much of
what they did *not* include. The material survives, a lot has been
translated into English multiple times, and is available.
... Hence much is less than
factual. For example most secular scholors suspect that Matthew describes
another man, Yeshuah ben Pendara who lived a generation earlier and was
crucified on a tree and stoned to death before the man we call Jesus was
born.
I never heard of that.
... I have a Pentateuch, where do I find a Septateuch?
The Septateuch ("Seven Books") is sort of the expanded, unabridged
version of the Gospels. It includes a lot of the material about Jesus'
life & teachings, written by his Disciples and others who knew him
personally including his brother James, that contradicted later Catholic
doctrine and was excluded from the New Testament Bibles published for
popular consumption.
Go to Amazon.com and type in Septateuch, you'll find several dozens at
least to choose from.
Actually you'd probably get more out of http://tinyurl.com/5q97v
Nawww...
Why not? Unless you're afraid to substitute the real thing for that
pseudo-historic nonsense you're so fond of.
.... knowledge causes
one to doubt dogma, Christian and otherwise.
Knowledge, and observation of fact. The latter is actually more
important.
"Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes?"
Agree.
Vito, I suspect that you an I agree on quite a lot, but I am offended by
the farcical anti-history you keep spouting. Making up weird **** can be
a lot of fun, and it takes some intellect & creativity. But claiming
it's true makes you either a con man or a lunatic. Which?
pot...black
Cheers
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