Other than to point out that you're wrong, please point to any 'ad
hominem' attacks I've made.
Vito wrote:
I'd call "narrow viewpoint" such an attack
OK, I apologize for calling your viewpoint narrow. I should have
realized you'd be offended at any expectation of including real world facts.
Jews were simply Canaanites with a different religion
Baloney. References, please.
Discovery Channel
Oh, you saw it on TV so it's a definite fact?
Please explain how DNA testing can identify the consanguinity between
people who lived 3,000 years ago, when the identity of the people tested
is an open question.
The Jewish Diaspora was less than 50% of the population. .....
That's not what the emperor was told .... orders were "kill 'em all" If you
know otherwise please cite.
I suggest you read a bit of actual history. The episodes in question can
be found in Vespasian, Trajan, and Josephus. Some of the Septuarchy
talks a lot about it too.
That leaves a very large percent still there chugging along day to day.
Rather that leaves a very large number of people chugging along, including a
few Jews gone underground.
???
A thousand years later, the Crusaders found large Jewish populations in
the Holy Land. The Muslim rulers of the area, under various dynasties,
usually found it prudent & profitable to give a number of special
dispensations to Jews in these territories.
No notable event in almost two thousand years? Isn't this leaving out a
good bit?
Nothing important to this discussion.
In other words, nothing that supports your statements. A large number of
events that contradict them, though.
... Christians tried their best to
destroy all of the knowledge and science western man ahd accumulated and
replace it with their myths but that has little effect on Euro-Jewish
history.
???
It seems likely that the Christian churches adopted/adapted local
customs and pagan rituals & holidays wholesale. What does a tree have to
do with Christmas, or a bunny with Easter? You're getting your eras and
epochs all confused. The Catholic Church was the repository of all
knowledge in the West, and all types of learning was sought after. Look
at some of the stories of pilgrimages, bringing back scrolls of
Aristotle etc etc. Read a bit about Alfred the Great, Alcuin, the
Carolingian Renaissance, etc etc.
The Church did not set itself against knowledge until the later
Renaissance, when science began to contradict some of the doctrines the
Church had simply made up generations earlier.
Then you have people like Bishop Ussher, who no doubt was a fairly
intelligent man, but applied his brainpower rather foolishly and the
result of course is laughed at. The Church decided at some point to deal
in hocus-pocus and fol-de-rol instead of actual knowledge, probably
because it's easier to pretend to be smart than to actually learn stuff
and peasants usually don't know the difference.
The result plagues our society today.
Having no place to go, but with historial ties to Roman Judea, these
EUROPEANS invaded what had become Palistine and created the Jewish State
of
Israel.
Uh huh. If this were the case, then what was the Balfour Doctrine all
about, about twenty years earlier?
I never said there was NO Zionist movement
Oh, OK. You just forgot to mention it and would prefer to think it's an
insignificant little detail, right?
... - a flow of outsiders into
Palistine - before the war.
Well, where do you think the "Palestinians" came from? Dropped from
Heaven into that place? They were merely another group who wandered in
and usurped the land. So why, in your opinion, does their right to
accupy historical Judea and Israel supercede the Jews? Does this right
include killing all Jews who happen to still live there and stealing
their property?
.... Until the halocost, Euro Jews had as little interest
in moving to Palistine as US Jews do today - they had their own rich
comfortable Euro-Jewish culture, even their own language (Yiddish). The few
who did go were assimilated.
IMHO that's a bit of an exaggeration. It's true that emigration into
Israel picked up quite a lot after WW2... the biggest numbers were from
Russia, though. And it's only logical that once the state of Israel was
established and a going concern, that more Jewish people moved there.
BTW Quite a lot of them did not speak Yiddish at all. Please note that
Yiddish at this point is basically a dead language, Israel's language is
Hebrew.
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