"Joe" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message
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"Donal" wrote in message
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Are you claiming that you can maintain a proper lookout with radar
alone?


Thats what I'm claiming Donal. I would not suggest it running a
strange river for the first time, but if you have navigated the same
area many times and you know it like the back of your hand then you
can safely run it with a quality fine tuned radar.

Emmmm... Aren't we discussing the Coll Regs? The International Rules
for
the avoidance of Collisions??

on a dark night can you walk to your bathroom without smaking into
the walls?

Usually ..... [not always ... though].

I've never ****&d into the wardrobe (yet).

Well maybe I mean most normal people have a memory that they use to
their advantage, I can see how this will not apply to you.

Ahaaaa! Are you claiming that you can *remember* where the small boats
were? Is that why you don't need to keep a lookout?





I don't see how "familiarity" with a particular stretch of water can
help
you avoid a collision.

I know you cant, thats because your always lost.

Now, now, Joe! Your neck is displaying its colour again!







I've done it a
thousand times. Nothing to it. If it's fog bound in an area I'm not
familiar with I usually wait and follow someone that knows the area.

Jeeeze! I'm only an amateur, but one of my basic rules is "NEVER
Follow
Anybody" - they might be as lost as you are!

Thats because you are an amateur, you not smart enough to figure out
if someone in front of you runs aground that not the best way to go.

No, Joe! That's because I have seen what happens when people follow
locals.




I think you missed the point of talking to everyone you meet on the
radio. If you do that you might be able to figure out that they know
the local area better than you do. But since you never go anywhere new
to you,

ahem I think that your [red] neck is showing again!

I have posted many accounts of *new* experiences here over the past few
years.

I guess this is a experience you will never have to do in real
life.

Don't guess. You aren't very good at guessing.

And yet you claim that you are happy to follow somebody else when you
are in
unfamiliar waters??? (See above).
Following people who "know the area" is the best way of running aground
that
I have come across.


Read the above. Locals are one of your best sources of recent
knowledge.

Joe, are you rreally stupid enough to believe that locals can relieve you of
your duty to keep a lookout in thick fog?



Back in Mark Twains day on the mississippi they use to tie
wooden Kegs or barrels at diffrent areas of the river. Inside these
barrels the skippers would leave notes to each other about shifting
sand bars, snags, currents and anything that has changed locally.


We are talking about keeping a lookout for other vessels! Even in Mark
Twain's day, people weren't stupid enough to document the positions of small
vessels in small wooden kegs.


Today we have what is called the LOCAL notice to mariners that is
compiled mostly by LOCALS that see things that change from what
printed on charts. Perhaps your to macho to talk to a local and ask
for quideance, Im not.

Local notices to Mariners would be effin clever if they were able to tell
you where small craft were sailing.

We're talking about "keeping a lookout" in this thread.




Joe,
You are a menace! It is obvious that you shouldn't be allowed to sail
anywhere.

Donal your a idiot with very limited knowledge of how to go anywhere
except on a crystal clear day with up to date charts and channels that
are very well marked. Its odvious you would be laughed off any
proffesional fleet.

I have several million miles under my belt on all types of keels, and
you?

I dunno! About 15,000, I guess.

Perhaps I learn as much in one mile, as you do in 1000 miles.


Regards


Donal
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