Doug great comments on the two boats. 5 pts.

I noticed the R-22 on eBay sold for $1822.
That is a fine deal for a small keelboat
and trailer.

I find it hard to believe it won't plane in
20+ knots. I can believe it would tend
to squirrel around with a spinnaker.

Bart

DSK wrote


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The Ranger 22 is basically a midget
IOR boat with a fractional rig.

Yep. It's actually kind of a mismatch between hull &
rig. It doesn't really sail like a frac rig because
the boom is so short & the mainsail is not where the
horsepower comes from.


The R-22 has my preferred style, mid
cockpit traveller which gives you
something to hang onto while sailing
to weather in the chop, but might snag
you on the unexpected gybe.

One of the issues here is that the R-22 cockpit is
very small. The footwell aft of the traveller is
restricive to the helmsman. It's not a good
daysailing boat for more than three people and I
found steering from the footwel takes a bit of
getting used to.


The R-23 has a longer waterline--20' vs
17.5', so I suspect it is a faster boat,

The Ranger 23 generally rates a bit lower then the
R-22 so most PHRF committees think they are a bit
faster too.


... R-22 has more appeal and I
think it would be lightning fast in
planing conditions with a spinnaker.

Bzzt thanks for playing. The Ranger 22 isn't going to
plane at all. The hull shape is an IOR shape,
remember? It not a full fledged broach coach but it
does get a bit unruly under spinnaker, and will
obstinantely refuse to plane even with big waves & 25
knot wind pushing the spinnaker.

But it is a very fun boat to sail.

Comparing the Ranger 23 to the 22... the R23 is a
much bigger boat. The cabin & cockpit are much
roomier. Almost unbelievable. I think that under some
conditions the Ranger 22 is faster but for most the
R23 would win. It's also much more straighforward to
sail. It's a much plainer looking boat but very
practical. The Ranger 23 is the smaller sister of the
Ranger 26, R-29, and R-33 that were popular
racer/cruisers and are among the better of that
class.

Thanks for the bio on Gary Mull, he was a great
designer.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King