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K Smith
 
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Gould 0738 wrote:
Harry the liar. Proveyour statements.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Backyard Renegade wrote:

Bought and paid for... Nice sales pitch, what did you get out of it?
Yeah, I know, the better your article, the more articles you get to
write. Stick to political shills here, and high fiving Harry and Jps,
leave the boating to those of us that are here for that.



Doesn't Renegade's post prove itself?

Renegade responds to an on-topic post with an insulting remark, suggests that
the poster refrain from making any further on-topic posts, and then insists
that he's "here for the boating."

Seems odd, but it's consistent with other threads posted today.



Chuck I wasn't going to say anything but now the subject of yet another
cheering not critically reviewed ad piece has been raised & accepting
you'll never confirm that this was the same boat originally supplied
with dangerous steering which did fail & yes you we OK but it was more
good luck that good management.

So I'm surprised you describe the hull construction as;

Cat Concepts elected to use knitted, rather than woven fiberglass cloth in the
hull and deck laminates. Woven cloth is considerably cheaper and considered the
industry "standard," but knitted fabrics are much stronger. The hull is balsa
cored, while the deck and superstructure are cored with foam. Vinylester resins
are employed in all hull laminations below the waterline to retard osmotic
blistering, and polyester resins used throughout the remainder of the boat.


This smacks of an all too light construction method better suited to
racing yachts (the spruik seems to want to make a virtue of that but
....geez louise given the "southern designers priors with yachts.) Racing
yachts can be light & strong but alas they can also be very short lived.

Most of those "we saved some weight" spruikers are more interested in
saving the money that weight would have cost them & as for a balsa cored
"hull" below the waterline??? what since the 70s??

Anyway I'm sure you ran this past some of your many knowledgeable boat
builders, although you probably had trouble understanding their answers,
given they were giggling so much.

Apart from the under spec (read "we saved some money") steering that
failed in a magazine test it seems the general trend continues &
everything that should set your alarm bells ringing is put to you & you
then accept it, as a virtue??

It may or may not interest you that some "southern" yacht designers
were running amok down here some years ago & some would say they were
responsible for deaths (not me mind you just "some") we had keels
falling off, lots of hull failures in yacht races etc etc & of course
nobody would own up to it being their fault, the designers blamed the
builders & visa versa . Eventually they had to change the rules so now
"any" design has to get an ABS (American Bureau of Shipping) certificate
on the hull design & scantlings or they're not allowed to even be in an
ocean race. Pretty much settled the argument that the designers they
were chasing light weight at the cost of a safe hull.

I don't know if you followed the america's cup this year?? but the
Swiss (of all people) won it, after the "southern" designed NZ boat all
but fell to bits. Some years agao an Aussie Americas' cup boat broke in
half outright!!

So be careful when the spruikers start on this crap about how clever
they are, they're usually doing a ficht, testing with consumer's money.

K