On Tue, 05 Jan 2021 15:45:25 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 05 Jan 2021 09:54:14 -0500, John wrote:

On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:39:30 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 08:24:01 -0500, John wrote:

The boy is hurting our Senate chances in GA. What a dumb ****!

https://ix.cnn.io/audio/20210102-tru...phone-call.mp3

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Beyond stupid, probably criminal. I give Raffensperger a lot of
credit for pushing back so forthrightly.

How anyone could believe that Trump is not a threat to democracy after
that conversation is beyond me.

China is a much bigger threat to Democracy than Trump would ever be. This is not
Nigeria.

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Agreed that China is a long term external threat.

Trying to overturn a valid election with bogus claims, threats and
intimidation is a very real internal threat. It also sets a dangerous
precedent for the future. Hopefully some of the perpetrators will be
prosecuted to discourage future attempts.

The whole last 4 years sets quite a number of bad precedents. The
unrelenting attack on the presidency is far worse that the GW Bush
administration, Clinton or even Nixon in the middle of Watergate.
There doesn't seem to be anything out of bounds these days. When a TV
person can call the president's daughter a "feckless ****" on the air
and not even have a ripple in their career, something has gone
terribly wrong. Amy Schumer makes Roseanne look like a saint and
Roseanne lost her job over an off the air comment that was a lot more
innocuous.
When they start viciously attacking Biden, his wife and his children,
with the most scurrilous comments, don't say it is unprecedented.
No, it has been made mainstream.