On 12/10/2014 1:52 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/10/14 1:14 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
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That's the problem with people like BOA. He selectively ignores some
things if it doesn't serve his argument.
The trouble with "people like Luddite" is they can't help dragging
partisan politics into a subject titled "Torturing SOB's."
There is plenty of debate going on about the release of this report and
it's not limited to the right-leaning media outlets. Even MSNBC has
raised some questions regarding the motivations of Feinstien and her
committee. The committee never bothered interviewing any of the people
who were actually involved in the interrogation program as research for
the report. It started as a conclusion which then had to be justified
with selectively chosen accusations and facts. You are correct. Many
of the same people were chastising the CIA for not doing enough shortly
after 9/11.
Finger pointing and evading responsibility. That's all.
You just evade the point of my post, which is that U.S. Government
engaged in widespread torture.
Maybe you don't believe it happened. Or maybe you think it's okay.
But you want to get into political ****-slinging.
I don't. Sorry about that.
You can argue politics with Scotty. Go right ahead.
We used to be able to claim the high moral ground because even in
warfare, we supposedly did not engage in war-making on civilians to the
extent our "enemies" did. World War II put that claim to death, of
course, with our massive bombings of mostly civilian parts of cities in
Germany and Japan, and the horrors we perpetrated on Vietnamese civilians.
I was recently reading about some of the lead up events to WWII, mainly
because some of the current global issues especially with regard to
Russia and Putin are somewhat similar. Japan was pushed into a corner
big time with sanctions, etc.
Roosevelt faced stiff domestic opposition to entering the war. He tried
to goad Germany into attacking a US convoy transporting aid to Great
Britain to create a justification for a war declaration. The Germans
didn't fall for the trap.
Instead, sanctions imposed on Japan were stiffened, leading to the
so-called "surprise" attack on Pearl Harbor. Most historians are now of
the opinion that it wasn't a surprise. It was anticipated.