On 12/3/2014 7:35 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 18:52:38 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

A choke hold in NY is not permitted under any circumstances per NYPD
policy. It is considered to be excessive force.

Questions:

Is the choke therefore against the law?

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No. The rule is a departmental policy, and if you break it, you are
subject to departmental discipline/corrective action. If you could
establish in a departmental hearing that you had no other choice or it
was accidental, you might be exonerated. That doesn't seem very
likely in this case since they could have maced Garner or tasered him.
The cops clearly over reacted in my opinion. Given Garner's asthma
and other medical issues, the mace or taser might have killed him but
we'll never know.


I just don't get all the gibberish and yappin'. Did you see how big that
guy was, have you ever had to deal with a guy that big? It's like
grabbing a battle ship and expecting it to know you are there. Anyway,
when somebody else can tell me how you get a guy that big on the ground
without getting around the only part of his body you can reach around, I
will listen. And once you grab that guys hand and "ask" him to get into
cuffs, no training in the world will allow a cop to back off to tazer or
mace... Once the struggle starts, you can not lose any amount of control
you have on the perp... Trust me, there is a lot you all don't know
about me, but you can't fight with what real cops have told me, and I
don't hang with them at tea parties I don't hate all cops, and they
all don't hate me