On 31 Mar 2005 09:38:52 -0800, "
wrote:

I've been waiting patiently to read about paddling and touring trips.
Really tired of this other subject that keeps popping up.
Let's hear about water sports...
I'm a canoest, and seakayaker...and want to read and talk about
that...isn't that why we signed up here? If not let me know, and I'll
unsubscribe and move on...

Let's give it a go..eh?


Shall I say, "You first." or "Bub bye now." ?

Instead of whining and threatening to deprive us of your, possibly
otherwise nice, company, why don't you tell us what and where you
paddle and what's good or bad about it?

All I paddle are a canoe (rental the last couple of years since I gave
away my stipper) and a recreational Old Town Otter kayak and (when I
lose 5 more pounds?) an old Perception Dancer that I use like a
recreational kayak.

I do them on lakes and the St. Croix River in MN/WI. Like them all,
Lke the places except that too many other people in canoes like the
'Croix on warm weekends. But the backwaters remove most of the
aluminum hatch from sight and sound.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)

in article , Cyli at
lid wrote on 4/1/05 12:08 AM:


Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

Excellent sig!

I too speak to squirrels. Minnows do not worship me, however.

I once caught a speckled trout that was so cute it put my off fishing.
Apparently there are gar pike in the area where I've recently moved and that
has me a bit excited about fish again.

Like most people I am almost entirely harmless until there comes a time when
I am not.

RBC makes Canadians think of a large chartered bank.

"Cyli" wrote in message
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On 31 Mar 2005 09:38:52 -0800, "
wrote:

I've been waiting patiently to read about paddling and touring trips.
Really tired of this other subject that keeps popping up.
Let's hear about water sports...
I'm a canoest, and seakayaker...and want to read and talk about
that...isn't that why we signed up here? If not let me know, and I'll
unsubscribe and move on...

Let's give it a go..eh?


Shall I say, "You first." or "Bub bye now." ?

Instead of whining and threatening to deprive us of your, possibly
otherwise nice, company, why don't you tell us what and where you
paddle and what's good or bad about it?

All I paddle are a canoe (rental the last couple of years since I gave
away my stipper) and a recreational Old Town Otter kayak and (when I
lose 5 more pounds?) an old Perception Dancer that I use like a
recreational kayak.

I do them on lakes and the St. Croix River in MN/WI. Like them all,
Lke the places except that too many other people in canoes like the
'Croix on warm weekends. But the backwaters remove most of the
aluminum hatch from sight and sound.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)

Nice to know there are others out there with a Dancer that is a little snug.
It takes everything that boat has to keep me afloat. I have removed the
plastic bit under the front combing edge and that gets me into the thing. I
was somewhat worried that I would not come out in a wet exit but when the
time came, it came off like a good pair of pants. I love the looks I get
when I show up with it. I'm 6' 1'' and about 275-285 depending on what I had
for breakfast ; and most people where I go have huge canoes and are shocked
that I am actually going to go out in my "little" boat.

Ken

On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 17:02:16 GMT, "No Spam"
wrote:

(snipped)

Nice to know there are others out there with a Dancer that is a little snug.
It takes everything that boat has to keep me afloat. I have removed the
plastic bit under the front combing edge and that gets me into the thing. I
was somewhat worried that I would not come out in a wet exit but when the
time came, it came off like a good pair of pants. I love the looks I get
when I show up with it. I'm 6' 1'' and about 275-285 depending on what I had
for breakfast ; and most people where I go have huge canoes and are shocked
that I am actually going to go out in my "little" boat.

I'm short and chubby and old enough to be less than agile. Bad for
getting in and out of a Dancer. But they're so* nice to paddle. Even
though I don't do whitewater. I once thought I would (about the time
I bought it) but then I tried it a bit and, while it's fun to go
downriver upside down very fast, I wasn't able to do the roll. Had to
pop the skirt every time and swim the little boat down to where I
could drain it and force my way back in. It makes a nice recreational
boat, especially in backwaters and swamps. One can go over a tree
trunk that any other boat would have to beach and pull around. You
push that nose up, reach down to the sides and do a hand push (can't
do that much more, either. Bummer.) and slide yourself right over.
Places anyone else has to get out to pull over the sand bar, you just
dig the paddle in the sand and scoot over it, if there's any water
flowing across it. One does have to learn how to paddle in a straight
line, but that comes along well.



Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)

Cyli wrote:
On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 17:02:16 GMT, "No Spam"

wrote:

(snipped)

Nice to know there are others out there with a Dancer that is a
little snug.
It takes everything that boat has to keep me afloat. I have removed
the
plastic bit under the front combing edge and that gets me into the
thing. I
was somewhat worried that I would not come out in a wet exit but
when the
time came, it came off like a good pair of pants. I love the looks I
get
when I show up with it. I'm 6' 1'' and about 275-285 depending on
what I had
for breakfast ; and most people where I go have huge canoes and are
shocked
that I am actually going to go out in my "little" boat.

I'm short and chubby and old enough to be less than agile. Bad for
getting in and out of a Dancer. But they're so* nice to paddle.
Even
though I don't do whitewater. I once thought I would (about the time
I bought it) but then I tried it a bit and, while it's fun to go
downriver upside down very fast, I wasn't able to do the roll. Had
to
pop the skirt every time and swim the little boat down to where I
could drain it and force my way back in. It makes a nice
recreational
boat, especially in backwaters and swamps. One can go over a tree
trunk that any other boat would have to beach and pull around. You
push that nose up, reach down to the sides and do a hand push (can't
do that much more, either. Bummer.) and slide yourself right over.
Places anyone else has to get out to pull over the sand bar, you just
dig the paddle in the sand and scoot over it, if there's any water
flowing across it. One does have to learn how to paddle in a
straight
line, but that comes along well.



Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)

Cyli, Your the kind of gal I would like to see on the survivor program,
any chance you would volunteer? TnT

On 4 Apr 2005 23:09:30 -0700, "Tinkerntom" wrote:



Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)

Cyli, Your the kind of gal I would like to see on the survivor program,
any chance you would volunteer? TnT


I'd be voted off more quickly than I heard the first guy on the first
show was. The guy that was the only one that knew how to start a
fire...

What little I've seen of it is full of people who want to be movie or
TV actors. Young pretty people in good shape. I don't fit any of
those qualifications. Oh, yeah, and I can be a tad abrasive if I'm
sure I'm right and no one agrees with me. And it's likely no one
would. Most of them (again from the very little I've seen) have
brains the size of walnuts and have common sense factors in the minus
range.

I did see one of their contests all the way through once (my husband
went downstairs to use the computer, so the channels didn't change).
One where the people were shooting at pumpkins or something like that.
Duh. This is not survivalism at basic. You walk over, grab the
pumpkin, cut it open and take it away to cook it. You don't, if in
real need, make a bow and arrow first thing, you make pit traps or
deadfalls or nets. Then you make bows and arrows. Or atalals (sp?
Spear throwers, whatever they're called).

Anyway, I think you can see now why I'd not enter one, even if I were
in good shape. After three days with what I've seen of those people
I'd possibly use any bow and arrows they gave me to shoot the guide,
the other contestants, or, better yet, the producer, if I didn't
shortcut it all and use the arrow to slit my wrists (remember, it's
down, not across).

But thank you for the compliment.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)

Cyli wrote:
On 4 Apr 2005 23:09:30 -0700, "Tinkerntom" wrote:



Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)

Cyli, Your the kind of gal I would like to see on the survivor
program,
any chance you would volunteer? TnT


I'd be voted off more quickly than I heard the first guy on the first
show was. The guy that was the only one that knew how to start a
fire...

What little I've seen of it is full of people who want to be movie or
TV actors. Young pretty people in good shape. I don't fit any of
those qualifications. Oh, yeah, and I can be a tad abrasive if I'm
sure I'm right and no one agrees with me. And it's likely no one
would. Most of them (again from the very little I've seen) have
brains the size of walnuts and have common sense factors in the minus
range.

I did see one of their contests all the way through once (my husband
went downstairs to use the computer, so the channels didn't change).
One where the people were shooting at pumpkins or something like
that.
Duh. This is not survivalism at basic. You walk over, grab the
pumpkin, cut it open and take it away to cook it. You don't, if in
real need, make a bow and arrow first thing, you make pit traps or
deadfalls or nets. Then you make bows and arrows. Or atalals (sp?
Spear throwers, whatever they're called).

Anyway, I think you can see now why I'd not enter one, even if I were
in good shape. After three days with what I've seen of those people
I'd possibly use any bow and arrows they gave me to shoot the guide,
the other contestants, or, better yet, the producer, if I didn't
shortcut it all and use the arrow to slit my wrists (remember, it's
down, not across).

But thank you for the compliment.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)


Like I said, you more than qualify for a real survival show. There have
been some of the more mature women on the show, but I agree that most
of it seems to have little to do with real survival, and more to do
with social climbing in a semi-primitive setting.

I always figured the tribe that wants to survive should raid the other
tribe, maybe bash a few knee caps to weaken the competition, and
generally cause havoc. Maybe go after the producers camp. Now we can
have a real program, with Jeff living on the beach. TnT

On 5 Apr 2005 06:11:26 -0700, "Tinkerntom" wrote:

(snipped)
Like I said, you more than qualify for a real survival show. There have
been some of the more mature women on the show, but I agree that most
of it seems to have little to do with real survival, and more to do
with social climbing in a semi-primitive setting.

I always figured the tribe that wants to survive should raid the other
tribe, maybe bash a few knee caps to weaken the competition, and
generally cause havoc. Maybe go after the producers camp. Now we can
have a real program, with Jeff living on the beach. TnT

Format has changed or I watched too little of it. I didn't know there
were two tribes competing. Geeze. Too much silliness for Cyli.

With real tribes you don't raid until there's a need. Usually a need
to get rid of some of the too many young over-testosteroned men who
are pretty useless if you've already got enough hunters. True
primitives tended to wander apart from one another most of the time.
As tribes got larger there was warfare and trade, but these start out
with 20 people or less for the 'reality' show, don't they? Insane.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)