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Allan Bennett wrote:
In article j1tUd.66306$8a6.13749@trndny09, Kieran wrote: That's the general idea, but because the paddling motion is 3-d, it's not very easy to determine power just from the strain in the paddle shaft. The flex in a paddle-shaft will be a reflection of all the forces acting upon the blade in the water. Using the force profile: t v deflection) and suitable calibration, it will be possible to determine the power. Hmmm... this seems to be the part I'm missing. How do you get power without knowing the path of the force? You need to know instantaneous velocity (direction and magnitude) at every moment. In a fixed-pivot environment like rowing, you can just put a potentiometer on the oar-lock. But the kayak/canoe paddle has no fixed pivot point. So, I imagine that a virtual pivot point would have to be derived via 3-d kinematic video analysis. It seems there is a virtual point (see Plagenhoef, 1979 and others), just as there is a virtual point where all the forces that propel the boat seem to meet - a valuable tool for those athletes with adequate imagination. Thanks for the reference. I'll see if I can find that publication. Would that be a book or a journal article? I haven't yet sat down and done a free-body of the system, but in my head, it seems like it's going to be an indeterminant system... not fun. ..and the ultimate purpose? Trying to come up with a master's thesis for my degree in biomechanics. A research prof here has an ongoing project that considers at a high (systems) level the energetics of different forms of human locomotion through/in/on water, including surface swimming with/without fins, submerged (e.g. scuba) swimming, rowing, and kayaking. There's very little published research that we can find on kayaking, so that's the part I'm tackling. Thanks for your input! -Kieran |
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