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"Jacobe Hazzard" wrote in message ...
DonQuijote1954 wrote: I know it's political, EVERYTHING is political. Whether in my bicycles--that go unused--or my kayaks--that now will go unused--I feel at the bottom end of the food chain. Polluting SUVs and motorboats have it all; bikers and kayakers, get the scraps--if any. Whether we are intimidated or regulated, we face the beast. It's a jungle out there... And what would you like done with the homeless? Have them scooped up and dispatched to some burnt out industrial district so they can't make the yuppies nervous when they go for strolls in the park? Listen the yuppies get nervous, I get nervous and everybody gets nervous. The problem is they are OUT OF PLACE in a park, and there shouldn't be homeless to begin with. While there's homeless out there I call it a JUNGLE. Guns N' Roses - Welcome To The Jungle Song Lyrics Welcome to the jungle We got fun 'n' games We got everything you want Honey we know the names We are the people that can find Whatever you may need If you got the money honey We got your disease Chorus: In the jungle Welcome to the jungle Watch it bring you to your shun n,n,n,n,,n,n,,n,n,n,,n,n,,n knees, knees I wanna watch you bleed Welcome to the jungle We take it day by day If you want it you're gonna bleed But it's the price you pay And you're a very sexy girl That's very hard to please You can taste the bright lights But you won't get them for free In the jungle Welcome to the jungle Feel my, my, my serpentine I, I wanna hear you scream Welcome to the jungle It gets worse here everyday Ya learn ta live like an animal In the jungle where we play If you got a hunger for what you see You'll take it eventually You can have anything you want But you better not take it from me Chorus And when you're high you never Ever want to come down, so down, so down, so down YEAH! You know where you are You're in the jungle baby You're gonna die In the jungle Welcome to the jungle Watch it bring you to your shu n,n,n,,n,n,,n,n,n,,n,n,,n,n,,n knees, knees In the jungle Welcome to the jungle Feel my, my, my serpentine In the jungle Welcome to the jungle Watch it bring you to your shun n,n,n,n,,n,n,,n,n,,n,n,,n.n, knees, knees In the jungle Welcome to the jungle Watch it bring you to your It's gonna bring you down! Ha! |
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Jeff Starr wrote in message . ..
I think your kayak has upside down, for way too long. You are showing signs of oxygen depravation. Life is Good! Jeff Where's the "depravation" in Eskimo roll? Oxygen deprivation surely comes from inhaling your motorboat fumes... |
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I'd really like to hear more about the details specific and germane to
the Miami park problem. Could you post a mapquest link to the spot in question, or an overhead image? Any luck spinning up a dialogue w/ the park board? etc. Ob paddling: i got about 120 miles paddling my yak on the Il. Fox River between Geneva and St. Charles and north. Well worth the small expense to buy a cheap yak. I launch from a park a block away and they don't mind at all. Ob cycling: might be time to start shoveling and plowing the river trail! ..max -- the part of was played by maxwell monningh 8-p |
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"The ice is melting but the problem is ignored"
"It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change." -Charles Darwin If it were to be an animal it would be doomed. But wait, maybe it is, what, a warmongering lion, a hungry dinosaur? Keep the SUVs rolling and the war going so the beast is fed. What an unromantic way for humanity to end, huh?  Group Passes on Addressing Global Warming By BART CAMERON, Associated Press Writer REYKJAVIK, Iceland - Although faced with fresh evidence of global warming, the United States and other members the Arctic Council on Wednesday failed to make any recommendations to combat a problem most scientists say is causing sea ice to melt and temperatures to rise. The council met to consider a new scientific report suggesting the Arctic is warming up much faster than the rest of the planet. Some delegates on the council, a respected international panel that advises governments on Arctic issues, seemed to blame their group's inaction on America's rejection of the Kyoto Protocol (news - web sites), which requires industrial nations to reduce emissions of greenhouse gases. The Bush administration prefers voluntary measures to save the environment. "We no sooner leave the science proper than we enter into politics," said Bryndis Kjartansdottir, speaking on behalf of the Icelandic ministry which chaired the one-day meeting. The study, compiled by 300 scientists and released earlier this month, said the Arctic is particularly vulnerable to warming from industrial greenhouse gases. One reason is that when snow and ice melt, the exposed, bare ground absorbs more heat. It projects that some animals could become extinct and people living in the region could be threatened by the thinning sea ice, melting glaciers and thawing permafrost. Sea ice in the Arctic has already decreased about 8 percent in 30 years, resulting in the loss of 386,100 square miles of sea ice, according to the report. Delegates said the findings will help inform governments about global warming, but declined to make any specific recommendations in a declaration adopted Wednesday. Paula Dobriansky, the U.S. under secretary of global affairs, told the council's closing news conference that she was happy with that decision. She said America's participation in the council is just one part of the Bush administration's $5.2 billion spent for environmental projects such as renewable energies. But anger from other delegates over the U.S. position on global warming seemed evident during the news conference, particularly the Bush Administration's rejection of the Kyoto Protocol in 2001. The U.N.-sponsored accord, which was negotiated in 1997 in Kyoto, Japan, requires industrial nations to reduce emissions of greenhouse gases below 1990 levels. When Finnish Foreign Minister Erkki Tuomioja said, "It is the best possible declaration that could be adopted today," other delegates exploded in laughter. The council is comprised of eight nations --Canada, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway, Russia, Sweden and the United States-- and six indigenous peoples of the Arctic, including the Saami Peoples of Norway and Finland and the Inuit Circumpolar Conference. http://committed.to/justiceforpeace |
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Good point.....what can be done?
Many things. For one, stop driving the SUV to the corner store.... But really THE PROBLEM IS POLITICAL. Dozens of good ideas are sitting out there, but the problem is ignored.... "Whither capitalism, now that the communist dragon is slain?" Well, history tells us that the dragon wasn't the only problem. The stupid dinosaur sticks to his old ways refusing anything new. 'Natural Capitalism' is a book that puts forth such ideas. But I'm afraid the dinosaur must be controlled and put on a diet--or else get rid of--before anything happens. The Economist (Nov. 13, 1999): "Much of what the authors argue for is sensible, and certainly desirable. But what makes this book worth reading is the fact that the authors have taken as first principles for their Utopia the harsh truths of Darwinian capitalism: individuals and companies act in their self interest, and markets guide that impulse through prices." http://www.natcap.org/sitepages/pid9.php |
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Max wrote in message ...
I'd really like to hear more about the details specific and germane to the Miami park problem. Could you post a mapquest link to the spot in question, or an overhead image? Here's the map (I hope it works)... (I'd come down 18 st, but now I have to walk 3 times farther and launch at a more dangerous place) http://www.smartpages.com/cityguides...yType=&Radius= Any luck spinning up a dialogue w/ the park board? I did talk with them over the phone, and they were reluctant to consider any options. After that I send them a copy of these posts but they never reply. etc. Ob paddling: i got about 120 miles paddling my yak on the Il. Fox River between Geneva and St. Charles and north. Well worth the small expense to buy a cheap yak. I launch from a park a block away and they don't mind at all. Ob cycling: might be time to start shoveling and plowing the river trail! .max Have fun out there! Where I am there are islands out there that are a real getaway. They used to be DILAPIDATED but last time were clean. |
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"DonQuijote1954" wrote in message om... Max wrote in message ... I'd really like to hear more about the details specific and germane to the Miami park problem. Could you post a mapquest link to the spot in question, or an overhead image? Here's the map (I hope it works)... (I'd come down 18 st, but now I have to walk 3 times farther and launch at a more dangerous place) http://www.smartpages.com/cityguides...yType=&Radius= This isn't some little park lake like I imagined you were describing. Although I'm not familiar with your put-in point, any boat launch ramp should be as available to kayaks as any other craft. If you are launching from a non-ramp site, walk the three blocks or drive to a public ramp and be done with it. You are so lucky to have this wonderful place to paddle. In Colorado, we have a great deal of compassion for the homeless who have hard and shortened lives. Typically, the homeless are struggling with mental illness and are difficult to help although many try. Of course, kayaking and the homeless have nothing to do with each other except to distract the officials from your issue with them. Gratitude is the antidote for resentment and the map seems to point to a lot to be grateful for. Happy Thanksgiving. -- Sincerely, Joanne If it's right for you, then it's right, . . . . . for you!!! Play - http://www.jobird.com Pay for Play - http://www.jobird.com/refund.htm Looking for Love? - http://www.jobird.com/hearts.htm Garden Kinder CDs http://www.jobird.com/cd/gardenkinderhome.html |
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"Joanne" wrote in message nk.net...
This isn't some little park lake like I imagined you were describing. Although I'm not familiar with your put-in point, any boat launch ramp should be as available to kayaks as any other craft. If you are launching from a non-ramp site, walk the three blocks or drive to a public ramp and be done with it. You are so lucky to have this wonderful place to paddle. The only park with a canoe ramp is two miles away, but takes a car and then be limited by the closing hours. Limitations, limitations, limitations... And the next best choice is kind of dangerous and difficult. Surrounding areas are all monopolized by the lions. What's left? In Colorado, we have a great deal of compassion for the homeless who have hard and shortened lives. Typically, the homeless are struggling with mental illness and are difficult to help although many try. You must have been raised into accepting the homeless as normal but I have not. I'd like to remind you they are the symptom of a jungle. A few that have it all (private marines and all), others that are left behind and discarded like animals (the homeless), and a majority who got no place in between. It's a jungle out there... Of course, kayaking and the homeless have nothing to do with each other except to distract the officials from your issue with them. Gratitude is the antidote for resentment and the map seems to point to a lot to be grateful for. The things I have to be grateful were created by NATURE, but are quickly disappearing thanks to the relentless attack by motorboats and the careless dumping, so a few can have fun. Happy Thanksgiving. Likewise. Thanks Mother Nature!  |
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