Spanish Tall Ship - Juan_Sebastian_Elcano_104.JPG (0/1)
 

The Spanish tall ship, Juan Sebastiain Elcano, a four-masted, topsail
schooner is in Miami for an R&R (liberty) and ceremonial visit.

Note the provisions for square sails on the forward mast and
fore-n-aft sails on the other three.

They have rigged a canvas cover for the main and quarterdecks and have
had receptions on board each night. It is rumored that the King of
Spain (or maybe his son) was here one night.

Miami has a huge Spanish presence. Even the Cuban population has ties
to Spain. Many of the families in the 1960-62 flight from Castro's
rise to power had only been in Cuba since they left Spain to escape
the Civil War of the late 1930. They consider themselves more Spanish
than Cuban.

The pics are not as sharp as I'd like due to fires in the Everglades
which are sending smoke over the city. And, my daughter has
"borrowed" my best camera. I'll try again this afternoon with it.

HF

Spanish Tall Ship - Juan_Sebastian_Elcano_104.JPG (0/1)
 

HiFlyer added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

The Spanish tall ship, Juan Sebastiain Elcano, a four-masted, topsail
schooner is in Miami for an R&R (liberty) and ceremonial visit.

Note the provisions for square sails on the forward mast and
fore-n-aft sails on the other three.

They have rigged a canvas cover for the main and quarterdecks and
have
had receptions on board each night. It is rumored that the King of
Spain (or maybe his son) was here one night.

Miami has a huge Spanish presence. Even the Cuban population has
ties
to Spain. Many of the families in the 1960-62 flight from Castro's
rise to power had only been in Cuba since they left Spain to escape
the Civil War of the late 1930. They consider themselves more
Spanish
than Cuban.

The pics are not as sharp as I'd like due to fires in the Everglades
which are sending smoke over the city. And, my daughter has
"borrowed" my best camera. I'll try again this afternoon with it.

HiFlyer, where were you taking these pics? By the angle and distance
and smoggy and greenish tint look, I'd guess inside a skyscraper or
maybe some tower. Also, I'd guess it annoyed you not to have a long
enough lens to nail those two great ships from whatever distance you
were. I'd guesstimate maybe a mile or more.

I imagine you've been to the Castillo de San Marcos in St. Augustine.
I've never been a lover of Miami, but I sure do love the Castillo! Now,
if I ever get off my dead ass and buy a dedicated slide scanner, maybe
I can recover some of my thousands of 35mm slides into digital!

--
HP, aka Jerry

"You've obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a ****!"

Spanish Tall Ship - Juan_Sebastian_Elcano_104.JPG (0/1)
 

From our condo on the 41st floor of a building on Brickell Key, a
small island in the financial district. We are about 1/2 mile from
the ships.

My 19 year old daughter is asleep and my really good digital and lens
are in there where Dad's dare not go until noon. smile

The cruise shiop to the left is Freedom of the Seas (RCCL) the largest
cruise ship in service right now.

HF

On Sun, 18 May 2008 09:33:37 -0500, "HEMI - Powered"
wrote:

HiFlyer added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

The Spanish tall ship, Juan Sebastiain Elcano, a four-masted, topsail
schooner is in Miami for an R&R (liberty) and ceremonial visit.

Note the provisions for square sails on the forward mast and
fore-n-aft sails on the other three.

They have rigged a canvas cover for the main and quarterdecks and
have
had receptions on board each night. It is rumored that the King of
Spain (or maybe his son) was here one night.

Miami has a huge Spanish presence. Even the Cuban population has
ties
to Spain. Many of the families in the 1960-62 flight from Castro's
rise to power had only been in Cuba since they left Spain to escape
the Civil War of the late 1930. They consider themselves more
Spanish
than Cuban.

The pics are not as sharp as I'd like due to fires in the Everglades
which are sending smoke over the city. And, my daughter has
"borrowed" my best camera. I'll try again this afternoon with it.

HiFlyer, where were you taking these pics? By the angle and distance
and smoggy and greenish tint look, I'd guess inside a skyscraper or
maybe some tower. Also, I'd guess it annoyed you not to have a long
enough lens to nail those two great ships from whatever distance you
were. I'd guesstimate maybe a mile or more.

I imagine you've been to the Castillo de San Marcos in St. Augustine.
I've never been a lover of Miami, but I sure do love the Castillo! Now,
if I ever get off my dead ass and buy a dedicated slide scanner, maybe
I can recover some of my thousands of 35mm slides into digital!

Spanish Tall Ship - Juan_Sebastian_Elcano_104.JPG (0/1) - DCP_3535Sm.JPG (0/1)
 

HP, where are you located?

Here's a better picture day in Miami.

HF (Jerry)

Spanish Tall Ship - Juan_Sebastian_Elcano_104.JPG (0/1) - DCP_3535Sm.JPG (1/1)
 

Spanish Tall Ship - Juan_Sebastian_Elcano_104.JPG (0/1)
 

"HiFlyer" schreef in bericht
...
The Spanish tall ship, Juan Sebastiain Elcano, a four-masted, topsail
schooner is in Miami for an R&R (liberty) and ceremonial visit.

Note the provisions for square sails on the forward mast and
fore-n-aft sails on the other three.

They have rigged a canvas cover for the main and quarterdecks and have
had receptions on board each night. It is rumored that the King of
Spain (or maybe his son) was here one night.

Miami has a huge Spanish presence. Even the Cuban population has ties
to Spain. Many of the families in the 1960-62 flight from Castro's
rise to power had only been in Cuba since they left Spain to escape
the Civil War of the late 1930. They consider themselves more Spanish
than Cuban.

The pics are not as sharp as I'd like due to fires in the Everglades
which are sending smoke over the city. And, my daughter has
"borrowed" my best camera. I'll try again this afternoon with it.

Here he is at full sail HiFlyer
--
Greetings
Bouler (The Netherlands)

Spanish Tall Ship - Juan_Sebastian_Elcano_104.JPG (0/1)
 

Very nice.

HF


On Sun, 18 May 2008 16:56:06 +0200, "Bouler"
wrote:


"HiFlyer" schreef in bericht
.. .
The Spanish tall ship, Juan Sebastiain Elcano, a four-masted, topsail
schooner is in Miami for an R&R (liberty) and ceremonial visit.

Note the provisions for square sails on the forward mast and
fore-n-aft sails on the other three.

They have rigged a canvas cover for the main and quarterdecks and have
had receptions on board each night. It is rumored that the King of
Spain (or maybe his son) was here one night.

Miami has a huge Spanish presence. Even the Cuban population has ties
to Spain. Many of the families in the 1960-62 flight from Castro's
rise to power had only been in Cuba since they left Spain to escape
the Civil War of the late 1930. They consider themselves more Spanish
than Cuban.

The pics are not as sharp as I'd like due to fires in the Everglades
which are sending smoke over the city. And, my daughter has
"borrowed" my best camera. I'll try again this afternoon with it.

Here he is at full sail HiFlyer

Spanish Tall Ship - Juan_Sebastian_Elcano_104.JPG (0/1)
 

On Sun, 18 May 2008 16:56:06 +0200, "Bouler"
wrote:


"HiFlyer" schreef in bericht
.. .
The Spanish tall ship, Juan Sebastiain Elcano, a four-masted, topsail
schooner is in Miami for an R&R (liberty) and ceremonial visit.

Note the provisions for square sails on the forward mast and
fore-n-aft sails on the other three.

They have rigged a canvas cover for the main and quarterdecks and have
had receptions on board each night. It is rumored that the King of
Spain (or maybe his son) was here one night.

Miami has a huge Spanish presence. Even the Cuban population has ties
to Spain. Many of the families in the 1960-62 flight from Castro's
rise to power had only been in Cuba since they left Spain to escape
the Civil War of the late 1930. They consider themselves more Spanish
than Cuban.

The pics are not as sharp as I'd like due to fires in the Everglades
which are sending smoke over the city. And, my daughter has
"borrowed" my best camera. I'll try again this afternoon with it.

Here he is at full sail HiFlyer
That's a nice ship.

Spanish Tall Ship - Juan_Sebastian_Elcano_104.JPG (0/1)
 

HiFlyer added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

From our condo on the 41st floor of a building on Brickell Key, a
small island in the financial district. We are about 1/2 mile from
the ships.

My 19 year old daughter is asleep and my really good digital and
lens are in there where Dad's dare not go until noon. smile

The cruise shiop to the left is Freedom of the Seas (RCCL) the
largest cruise ship in service right now.

Hmmm. Looks like I missed the distance by about half. What confused my
on that was the pictures are apparently taken at different zoom focal
lengths.


On Sun, 18 May 2008 09:33:37 -0500, "HEMI - Powered"
wrote:

HiFlyer added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

The Spanish tall ship, Juan Sebastiain Elcano, a four-masted,
topsail schooner is in Miami for an R&R (liberty) and ceremonial
visit.

Note the provisions for square sails on the forward mast and
fore-n-aft sails on the other three.

They have rigged a canvas cover for the main and quarterdecks and
have had receptions on board each night. It is rumored that the
King of Spain (or maybe his son) was here one night.

Miami has a huge Spanish presence. Even the Cuban population has
ties to Spain. Many of the families in the 1960-62 flight from
Castro's rise to power had only been in Cuba since they left Spain
to escape the Civil War of the late 1930. They consider
themselves more Spanish than Cuban.

The pics are not as sharp as I'd like due to fires in the
Everglades which are sending smoke over the city. And, my
daughter has "borrowed" my best camera. I'll try again this
afternoon with it.

HiFlyer, where were you taking these pics? By the angle and distance
and smoggy and greenish tint look, I'd guess inside a skyscraper or
maybe some tower. Also, I'd guess it annoyed you not to have a long
enough lens to nail those two great ships from whatever distance you
were. I'd guesstimate maybe a mile or more.

I imagine you've been to the Castillo de San Marcos in St.
Augustine. I've never been a lover of Miami, but I sure do love the
Castillo! Now, if I ever get off my dead ass and buy a dedicated
slide scanner, maybe I can recover some of my thousands of 35mm
slides into digital!




--
HP, aka Jerry

"You've obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a ****!"

Spanish Tall Ship - Juan_Sebastian_Elcano_104.JPG (0/1) - DCP_3535Sm.JPG (0/1)
 

HiFlyer added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

HP, where are you located?

Here's a better picture day in Miami.

HF (Jerry)

Troy, Michigan. That's in SE Michigan about 19 miles NNW of the Detroit
River. If you are familar with the area, we are at Livernois and Square
Lake Roads. The boundary of Detroit E-W is 8 Mile Road so I am 11 miles
north of that but at a slant when looking as the crow flies all the way
to the river, which runs roughly E-W in Downtown Detroit.

When I first started at Chrysler Engineering in 1969, I was at their
headquarters and engineering complex in Highland Park, Michigan and I
move to the new Chrysler Technology Center in Auburn Hills, MI in 1992.
So, I am very close to much of the neat stuff in SW MI but not at all
close to anything scenic like you are, Kingfisher is, etc. But, we all
have to choose wrt weather and the risk of weather, right?

Have a great day, HF?

--
HP, aka Jerry

"You've obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a ****!"

Spanish Tall Ship - Juan_Sebastian_Elcano_104.JPG (0/1) - DCP_3535Sm.JPG (1/1)
 

HiFlyer added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

Attachment decoded: DCP_3535Sm.JPG

Yes, much brighter and clearer. The river or canal is very calm. Does it
ever get choppy, e.g., in a storm?

Also, I don't recognize DCP in the camera's file name. What do you have?

--
HP, aka Jerry

"You've obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a ****!"

Spanish Tall Ship - Juan_Sebastian_Elcano_104.JPG (0/1) - DCP_3535Sm.JPG (1/1)
 

My Canon PowerShot A570 was not available so I used the old Kodak
DC280 just in case the ship departed this afternoon.

I just took a few on the good one, but the visibility is terrilbe due
to the smoke.

HF



On Sun, 18 May 2008 13:51:43 -0500, "HEMI - Powered"
wrote:

HiFlyer added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

Attachment decoded: DCP_3535Sm.JPG

Yes, much brighter and clearer. The river or canal is very calm. Does it
ever get choppy, e.g., in a storm?

Also, I don't recognize DCP in the camera's file name. What do you have?

Spanish Tall Ship - Juan_Sebastian_Elcano_104.JPG (0/1) - DCP_3535Sm.JPG (0/1)
 

This our (combined) 44th home, five together. She's a service brat
and a military officer. I served 29 years.

Of all the places, I like Miami best and it is my third time. I can
deal with an occasional hurricane, with days of warning, but not
earthquakes, tornados, and months of winter. I grew up in upstate NY

HF

On Sun, 18 May 2008 13:50:33 -0500, "HEMI - Powered"
wrote:

HiFlyer added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

HP, where are you located?

Here's a better picture day in Miami.

HF (Jerry)

Troy, Michigan. That's in SE Michigan about 19 miles NNW of the Detroit
River. If you are familar with the area, we are at Livernois and Square
Lake Roads. The boundary of Detroit E-W is 8 Mile Road so I am 11 miles
north of that but at a slant when looking as the crow flies all the way
to the river, which runs roughly E-W in Downtown Detroit.

When I first started at Chrysler Engineering in 1969, I was at their
headquarters and engineering complex in Highland Park, Michigan and I
move to the new Chrysler Technology Center in Auburn Hills, MI in 1992.
So, I am very close to much of the neat stuff in SW MI but not at all
close to anything scenic like you are, Kingfisher is, etc. But, we all
have to choose wrt weather and the risk of weather, right?

Have a great day, HF?

Spanish Tall Ship - Juan_Sebastian_Elcano_104.JPG (0/1)
 

HiFlyer added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

From our condo on the 41st floor of a building on Brickell Key, a
small island in the financial district. We are about 1/2 mile from
the ships.

My 19 year old daughter is asleep and my really good digital and
lens are in there where Dad's dare not go until noon. smile

HF, you best apply the 6-P Principle he grin "Proper Planning
Prevents **** Poor Performance", quoted by CIA assasin played by Robert
Duvall in the movie "The Killer Elite".

As an adjunct to lenses, I popped for not one, but TWO new cameras
today! A Rebel Xsi for myself with the new 18-55mm kit lens to replace
my Rebel XT and an 8mp Canon SD-1100 ultra-compact P & S for my wife in
pink annodized "aluminum" plastic. She likes pink because she's a pig
memorabilia collector.

Now, gotta get off the couch and do some test drives prior to the June
5 WW@WD and June 7 CEMA HUGE Mopar car shows at Chrysler's Auburn
Hills, MI complex

The cruise shiop to the left is Freedom of the Seas (RCCL) the
largest cruise ship in service right now.

HF

On Sun, 18 May 2008 09:33:37 -0500, "HEMI - Powered"
wrote:

HiFlyer added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

The Spanish tall ship, Juan Sebastiain Elcano, a four-masted,
topsail schooner is in Miami for an R&R (liberty) and ceremonial
visit.

Note the provisions for square sails on the forward mast and
fore-n-aft sails on the other three.

They have rigged a canvas cover for the main and quarterdecks and
have had receptions on board each night. It is rumored that the
King of Spain (or maybe his son) was here one night.

Miami has a huge Spanish presence. Even the Cuban population has
ties to Spain. Many of the families in the 1960-62 flight from
Castro's rise to power had only been in Cuba since they left Spain
to escape the Civil War of the late 1930. They consider
themselves more Spanish than Cuban.

The pics are not as sharp as I'd like due to fires in the
Everglades which are sending smoke over the city. And, my
daughter has "borrowed" my best camera. I'll try again this
afternoon with it.

HiFlyer, where were you taking these pics? By the angle and distance
and smoggy and greenish tint look, I'd guess inside a skyscraper or
maybe some tower. Also, I'd guess it annoyed you not to have a long
enough lens to nail those two great ships from whatever distance you
were. I'd guesstimate maybe a mile or more.

I imagine you've been to the Castillo de San Marcos in St.
Augustine. I've never been a lover of Miami, but I sure do love the
Castillo! Now, if I ever get off my dead ass and buy a dedicated
slide scanner, maybe I can recover some of my thousands of 35mm
slides into digital!




--
HP, aka Jerry

"If it waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck"

Spanish Tall Ship - Juan_Sebastian_Elcano_104.JPG (0/1) - DCP_3535Sm.JPG (0/1)
 

HiFlyer added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

This our (combined) 44th home, five together. She's a service brat
and a military officer. I served 29 years.


My congrats to both of you for serving this great country for twin
careers! If you'd like to say, what branches are you in? As for me, my
military "career" was 20 months as an enlisted man in the U.S. Army.
Basic at Ft. Dix, AIT at Ft. Sill, and duty with the 1st of the 81st
Field Artillery in Neu Ulm Germany. The "1st of the 80-worst" was a
Pershing tactical nuclear missile battalion, presumeably with the
intent of nuking Warsaw Pact armored divisions should they try to
overrun NATO. Damn glad we never had to launch!

Now, My Gawd! 44 homes?! I have only had 4, counting my parents house,
an apartment before my wife and I married, a house we built in Madison
Heights, then the house we're in now in Troy. I suppose I could add 3
more for the Army.

Again, it makes me so proud to be an American when I hear of people
like you and your wife dedicating their lives to the defense of our
freedom. Have either/both of you been deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan?
I'm not expert, please, but I'd SWAG that maybe 2/3 of the troop
strength there is National Guard, but I'm sure that if either/both of
you are Army, Marines, or Navy, your boots may well have been on the
ground there, maybe 2 or 3 times now. I just heard last week that some
state Guard units are now on their FOURTH tour!

I won't comment at all about the war, except to say that I think that
burning up our National Guard like that is foolhardy. I don't know what
political heat President Bush would've taken if he'd reinstituted the
draft as LBJ did for Viet Nam, but if he had, we at least would have
been able to maintain a combat-ready force at home and would be far
better able to cope with what the Guard is for, e.g., Katrina and the
recent hurricanes.

Of all the places, I like Miami best and it is my third time. I can
deal with an occasional hurricane, with days of warning, but not
earthquakes, tornados, and months of winter. I grew up in upstate
NY

I used to travel with my parent every summer across NY on the way to
Worcester, MA to visit with my mother's family there and in Chepachet,
RI with my father's family. In my early youth in the early 1950s, we
went across the mountains over 2-lane roads, then the NY Thruway. I
have been to Upstate NY once, and found it fascinating, but the
touristy stuff is pretty far apart.

If you're interested in things military at all, I can relate the
"exploits" of my father who was a WWII Marine, and fought at Saipan,
Tinian, and Iwo Jima and is even pictured in Joe Rosenthal's "gung ho"
group shot after the raising of the 2nd flag on Mt. Suribachi. I posted
a series to honor him on his birthday on April 4, but only (I think) to
a.b.p.wallpaper and wallpaper-duplicates. If you ARE interested and
you'd like me to repost here, please give me a "Ping" here.

On Sun, 18 May 2008 13:50:33 -0500, "HEMI - Powered"
wrote:

HiFlyer added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

HP, where are you located?

Here's a better picture day in Miami.

HF (Jerry)

Troy, Michigan. That's in SE Michigan about 19 miles NNW of the
Detroit River. If you are familar with the area, we are at Livernois
and Square Lake Roads. The boundary of Detroit E-W is 8 Mile Road so
I am 11 miles north of that but at a slant when looking as the crow
flies all the way to the river, which runs roughly E-W in Downtown
Detroit.

When I first started at Chrysler Engineering in 1969, I was at their
headquarters and engineering complex in Highland Park, Michigan and
I move to the new Chrysler Technology Center in Auburn Hills, MI in
1992. So, I am very close to much of the neat stuff in SW MI but not
at all close to anything scenic like you are, Kingfisher is, etc.
But, we all have to choose wrt weather and the risk of weather,
right?

Have a great day, HF?




--
HP, aka Jerry

"If it waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck"

Spanish Tall Ship - Juan_Sebastian_Elcano_104.JPG (0/1) - DCP_3535Sm.JPG (1/1)
 

HiFlyer added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

My Canon PowerShot A570 was not available so I used the old Kodak
DC280 just in case the ship departed this afternoon.

PowerShots are the series of P & S cameras, aren't they, HF? Do they
get up into the EVF range? See a comment I just made to an earlier one
of yours. I just bought a PowerShot SD-1100 for my wife and a Rebel Xsi
DSLR new toy for myself this afternoon.

Thanks for the pics and the good stories!

I just took a few on the good one, but the visibility is terrilbe
due to the smoke.

Smoke? As is smoke or as in smog? I've never stayed in Miami per se but
did pass through Miami Beach a number of times and did some night spots
back in January, 1970 just before my buddy and I got drafted, he in
February that year and me in June. It IS a very nice area, especially
if you like boaters. Back then, we were Lauderdale-bound and managed to
see the old Queen Elizabeth when she was berthed as a floating museum
at Port Everglades. Too bad the Japs managed to sink such a
distinguished old lady towing her home.

I may or may not have commented here that my main interest these days
is car pictures, but buried in my basement are something like 5,000-
8,000 - I really don't know how many - 35mm slides I took with my
still-working 1969 Nikon Photomic FTN. Lots were in the US before and
after I was in the Army but the bulk are of Germany, Austria, London,
and Paris while I was overseas. I almost bought a Nikon CoolScan 5000 3
years ago but dropped the idea because my health went south. I am still
recovering and I have the itch to play with my Visa card again while
she's still hot. Gotta to to www.nikonusa.com and see what the diff is
for a CoolScan V at $600 vs. the CoolScan 5000 for $1100. I'm pretty
sure I want the latter because it supports 4 slide/scan, an optional
feeder, and Digital Ice to kill the noise caused by dust.

If and when I ever acquire such a beast - or use Ritz Camera's scanning
service at 75 cents/scan, I'll be able to post a LARGE number of ships,
both civilian and military.

Stay tuned!

HF



On Sun, 18 May 2008 13:51:43 -0500, "HEMI - Powered"
wrote:

HiFlyer added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

Attachment decoded: DCP_3535Sm.JPG

Yes, much brighter and clearer. The river or canal is very calm.
Does it ever get choppy, e.g., in a storm?

Also, I don't recognize DCP in the camera's file name. What do you
have?




--
HP, aka Jerry

"If it waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck"

Spanish Tall Ship - Juan_Sebastian_Elcano_104.JPG (0/1) - 2 attachments
 

Bouler added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

The Spanish tall ship, Juan Sebastiain Elcano, a four-masted, topsail
schooner is in Miami for an R&R (liberty) and ceremonial visit.

Note the provisions for square sails on the forward mast and
fore-n-aft sails on the other three.

They have rigged a canvas cover for the main and quarterdecks and have
had receptions on board each night. It is rumored that the King of
Spain (or maybe his son) was here one night.

Miami has a huge Spanish presence. Even the Cuban population has ties
to Spain. Many of the families in the 1960-62 flight from Castro's
rise to power had only been in Cuba since they left Spain to escape
the Civil War of the late 1930. They consider themselves more Spanish
than Cuban.

The pics are not as sharp as I'd like due to fires in the Everglades
which are sending smoke over the city. And, my daughter has
"borrowed" my best camera. I'll try again this afternoon with it.

Here he is at full sail HiFlyer

Looks like a 4-masted schooner with a metal hull. If it is Spanish Navy,
it must be for the same purpose as the American Coast Guard training true
"tall ship", the Eagle, pics attached.

--
HP, aka Jerry

"If it waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck"

Spanish Tall Ship - Juan_Sebastian_Elcano_104.JPG (0/1) - 2 attachments
 

"HEMI-Powered" schreef in bericht
...

The pics are not as sharp as I'd like due to fires in the Everglades
which are sending smoke over the city. And, my daughter has
"borrowed" my best camera. I'll try again this afternoon with it.

Here he is at full sail HiFlyer

Looks like a 4-masted schooner with a metal hull. If it is Spanish Navy,
it must be for the same purpose as the American Coast Guard training true
"tall ship", the Eagle, pics attached.

She has indeed a steel hull like The Eagle.
Here a nice little movie of the Juan Sebastian Elcano on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIn-O7piw4Q
--
Greetings
Bouler (The Netherlands)

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Bouler added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

Here he is at full sail HiFlyer

Looks like a 4-masted schooner with a metal hull. If it is Spanish
Navy, it must be for the same purpose as the American Coast Guard
training true "tall ship", the Eagle, pics attached.

She has indeed a steel hull like The Eagle.
Here a nice little movie of the Juan Sebastian Elcano on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIn-O7piw4Q

As you know, Bouler, I'm not a fool and I don't lead with my chin wrt
facts or things I assert. So, I either can be reasonably sure by just
looking often, I can and do do some Googling if my comments might turn
out to be embarrassing if I'm really wrong. Thus, I was Ivory Soap Pure
sure that the Juan is steel-hulled, just as I correctly nailed the same
thing in a number of your reposts for me when I first docked in this here
deep water port.

As for YouTube, never touch the stuff! Most people know I have an
information security background that's pretty extensive and I also have a
MAJOR committment of time and energy to everything digital and techie, so
I already KNOW that YouTube is a really juicy place for the bad guys to
plant nasties in the videos, and do other not-so-nice things such as grap
IPs for future compromise attempts, maybe snag an E-mail addy from them
stupid enough to post in the clear, etc. And, ALL of the dangers are an
order of magnitude higher - maybe 2 orders of magnitude or even more - if
one is running on ANY HTTP system vs. NNTP.

--
HP, aka Jerry

"If it waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck"

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"HEMI-Powered" schreef in bericht
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Bouler added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

Here he is at full sail HiFlyer

Looks like a 4-masted schooner with a metal hull. If it is Spanish
Navy, it must be for the same purpose as the American Coast Guard
training true "tall ship", the Eagle, pics attached.

She has indeed a steel hull like The Eagle.
Here a nice little movie of the Juan Sebastian Elcano on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIn-O7piw4Q

As you know, Bouler, I'm not a fool and I don't lead with my chin wrt
facts or things I assert. So, I either can be reasonably sure by just
looking often, I can and do do some Googling if my comments might turn
out to be embarrassing if I'm really wrong. Thus, I was Ivory Soap Pure
sure that the Juan is steel-hulled, just as I correctly nailed the same
thing in a number of your reposts for me when I first docked in this here
deep water port.

As for YouTube, never touch the stuff! Most people know I have an
information security background that's pretty extensive and I also have a
MAJOR committment of time and energy to everything digital and techie, so
I already KNOW that YouTube is a really juicy place for the bad guys to
plant nasties in the videos, and do other not-so-nice things such as grap
IPs for future compromise attempts, maybe snag an E-mail addy from them
stupid enough to post in the clear, etc. And, ALL of the dangers are an
order of magnitude higher - maybe 2 orders of magnitude or even more - if
one is running on ANY HTTP system vs. NNTP.

Well I liked the movie with information of the ship.
--
Greetings
Bouler (The Netherlands)

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Bouler added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

Looks like a 4-masted schooner with a metal hull. If it is
Spanish Navy, it must be for the same purpose as the American
Coast Guard training true "tall ship", the Eagle, pics attached.

She has indeed a steel hull like The Eagle.
Here a nice little movie of the Juan Sebastian Elcano on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIn-O7piw4Q

As you know, Bouler, I'm not a fool and I don't lead with my chin
wrt facts or things I assert. So, I either can be reasonably sure
by just looking often, I can and do do some Googling if my comments
might turn out to be embarrassing if I'm really wrong. Thus, I was
Ivory Soap Pure sure that the Juan is steel-hulled, just as I
correctly nailed the same thing in a number of your reposts for me
when I first docked in this here deep water port.

As for YouTube, never touch the stuff! Most people know I have an
information security background that's pretty extensive and I also
have a MAJOR committment of time and energy to everything digital
and techie, so I already KNOW that YouTube is a really juicy place
for the bad guys to plant nasties in the videos, and do other
not-so-nice things such as grap IPs for future compromise attempts,
maybe snag an E-mail addy from them stupid enough to post in the
clear, etc. And, ALL of the dangers are an order of magnitude
higher - maybe 2 orders of magnitude or even more - if one is
running on ANY HTTP system vs. NNTP.

Well I liked the movie with information of the ship.

One of the first good quotes I learned when I was doing a deep dive
trying to learn my new job as Engineering Information Security Manager
in the late summer of 1996 was this one:

"the only two types of people that've never been compromised are the
arrogant and the ignorant. Which are you? Both? And, maybe foolish as
well? My sister-in-law is so damn dumb as to actually giver here
PERSONAL E-mail to a Yahoo Groups "news group" for poodles! And, she
gets MORE than 250 E-mails a day! Dumb, dumb, dumb! Why so many? Well,
everybody build dist lists and adds people as they see interest and
pretty soon you're on dozens and dozens of people dist lists, often
multiple times as people are too lazy to remove the dups. 250/day?
WTF?! That's 250 times that the bad guys could - in your word - snag
her entire address book and 250 times the bad guys - or gals - could do
mischief to her PC. She claims that she knows all of them and they're
her friends. Poppycock!

So, unless one practices safe sex on the Internet, "a fool and his
money AND time are soon parted."

Maybe you should spend more of your meager financial resources and time
LEARNING about ships instead of wasting it just watching movies about
ships.

--
HP, aka Jerry

"If it waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck"

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In article ,
"HEMI-Powered" wrote:

Bouler added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

Looks like a 4-masted schooner with a metal hull. If it is
Spanish Navy, it must be for the same purpose as the American
Coast Guard training true "tall ship", the Eagle, pics attached.

She has indeed a steel hull like The Eagle.
Here a nice little movie of the Juan Sebastian Elcano on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIn-O7piw4Q

As you know, Bouler, I'm not a fool and I don't lead with my chin
wrt facts or things I assert. So, I either can be reasonably sure
by just looking often, I can and do do some Googling if my comments
might turn out to be embarrassing if I'm really wrong. Thus, I was
Ivory Soap Pure sure that the Juan is steel-hulled, just as I
correctly nailed the same thing in a number of your reposts for me
when I first docked in this here deep water port.

As for YouTube, never touch the stuff! Most people know I have an
information security background that's pretty extensive and I also
have a MAJOR committment of time and energy to everything digital
and techie, so I already KNOW that YouTube is a really juicy place
for the bad guys to plant nasties in the videos, and do other
not-so-nice things such as grap IPs for future compromise attempts,
maybe snag an E-mail addy from them stupid enough to post in the
clear, etc. And, ALL of the dangers are an order of magnitude
higher - maybe 2 orders of magnitude or even more - if one is
running on ANY HTTP system vs. NNTP.

Well I liked the movie with information of the ship.

One of the first good quotes I learned when I was doing a deep dive
trying to learn my new job as Engineering Information Security Manager
in the late summer of 1996 was this one:

"the only two types of people that've never been compromised are the
arrogant and the ignorant. Which are you? Both? And, maybe foolish as
well? My sister-in-law is so damn dumb as to actually giver here
PERSONAL E-mail to a Yahoo Groups "news group" for poodles! And, she
gets MORE than 250 E-mails a day! Dumb, dumb, dumb! Why so many? Well,
everybody build dist lists and adds people as they see interest and
pretty soon you're on dozens and dozens of people dist lists, often
multiple times as people are too lazy to remove the dups. 250/day?
WTF?! That's 250 times that the bad guys could - in your word - snag
her entire address book and 250 times the bad guys - or gals - could do
mischief to her PC. She claims that she knows all of them and they're
her friends. Poppycock!

So, unless one practices safe sex on the Internet, "a fool and his
money AND time are soon parted."

Maybe you should spend more of your meager financial resources and time
LEARNING about ships instead of wasting it just watching movies about
ships.

This is really off the wall. Bouler courteously offered some nice
thoughts, and Hemi jumps all over him! What gives? What happened to
civility?

--
Bill Collins
For email, change "fake" to "earthlink"

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Bill added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

So, unless one practices safe sex on the Internet, "a fool and his
money AND time are soon parted."

Maybe you should spend more of your meager financial resources and
time LEARNING about ships instead of wasting it just watching
movies about ships.

This is really off the wall. Bouler courteously offered some nice
thoughts, and Hemi jumps all over him! What gives? What happened to
civility?

As it turns out, I was fooled by Bouler's initial demeaner. Since then,
he has proven himself to be both a consumate fool and a naive moron who
believes even the most bizarre and perverted crap he learns on the
Internet or watching **** like YouTube. He knows basically no-thing
about anything and I now realize that he really doesn't know jack ****
about boats and ****s. So, he did NOT help me, he only showed his
ignorance and naivete once again with some lame crap about the ship in
this thread.

You'll have to first read ALL of Bouler's increasingly vehement and
vicious attacks on my personally, my knowledge which turns out to be
vastly superior to his, and he's insulted my country. I don't cotton to
those things, so I stomp him if he's stupid enough to stick his head
out. I have nothing against you, Bill, in fact I don't think I even
know you, but before you pass judgment on me, best get ALL the facts,
although that'll be difficult because the most egregious and most
outrageous of Bouler's mentally unbalanced attacks took place privately
via E-mail when I thought he was my friend. I guess he show his true
colors, huh?

--
HP, aka Jerry

"You've obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a ****!"

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On Mon, 19 May 2008 07:38:41 -0500, "HEMI - Powered"
wrote:

Bill added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

So, unless one practices safe sex on the Internet, "a fool and his
money AND time are soon parted."

Maybe you should spend more of your meager financial resources and
time LEARNING about ships instead of wasting it just watching
movies about ships.

This is really off the wall. Bouler courteously offered some nice
thoughts, and Hemi jumps all over him! What gives? What happened to
civility?

As it turns out, I was fooled by Bouler's initial demeaner. Since then,
he has proven himself to be both a consumate fool and a naive moron who
believes even the most bizarre and perverted crap he learns on the
Internet or watching **** like YouTube. He knows basically no-thing
about anything and I now realize that he really doesn't know jack ****
about boats and ****s. So, he did NOT help me, he only showed his
ignorance and naivete once again with some lame crap about the ship in
this thread.

You'll have to first read ALL of Bouler's increasingly vehement and
vicious attacks on my personally, my knowledge which turns out to be
vastly superior to his, and he's insulted my country. I don't cotton to
those things, so I stomp him if he's stupid enough to stick his head
out. I have nothing against you, Bill, in fact I don't think I even
know you, but before you pass judgment on me, best get ALL the facts,
although that'll be difficult because the most egregious and most
outrageous of Bouler's mentally unbalanced attacks took place privately
via E-mail when I thought he was my friend. I guess he show his true
colors, huh?
Why did I remove you from my filtered list I don't know but back you
go again mr hack. Now you go cry to mommy and leave us alone.

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On Mon, 19 May 2008 08:19:38 -0400, Bill wrote:

In article ,
"HEMI-Powered" wrote:

Bouler added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

Looks like a 4-masted schooner with a metal hull. If it is
Spanish Navy, it must be for the same purpose as the American
Coast Guard training true "tall ship", the Eagle, pics attached.

She has indeed a steel hull like The Eagle.
Here a nice little movie of the Juan Sebastian Elcano on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIn-O7piw4Q

As you know, Bouler, I'm not a fool and I don't lead with my chin
wrt facts or things I assert. So, I either can be reasonably sure
by just looking often, I can and do do some Googling if my comments
might turn out to be embarrassing if I'm really wrong. Thus, I was
Ivory Soap Pure sure that the Juan is steel-hulled, just as I
correctly nailed the same thing in a number of your reposts for me
when I first docked in this here deep water port.

As for YouTube, never touch the stuff! Most people know I have an
information security background that's pretty extensive and I also
have a MAJOR committment of time and energy to everything digital
and techie, so I already KNOW that YouTube is a really juicy place
for the bad guys to plant nasties in the videos, and do other
not-so-nice things such as grap IPs for future compromise attempts,
maybe snag an E-mail addy from them stupid enough to post in the
clear, etc. And, ALL of the dangers are an order of magnitude
higher - maybe 2 orders of magnitude or even more - if one is
running on ANY HTTP system vs. NNTP.

Well I liked the movie with information of the ship.

One of the first good quotes I learned when I was doing a deep dive
trying to learn my new job as Engineering Information Security Manager
in the late summer of 1996 was this one:

"the only two types of people that've never been compromised are the
arrogant and the ignorant. Which are you? Both? And, maybe foolish as
well? My sister-in-law is so damn dumb as to actually giver here
PERSONAL E-mail to a Yahoo Groups "news group" for poodles! And, she
gets MORE than 250 E-mails a day! Dumb, dumb, dumb! Why so many? Well,
everybody build dist lists and adds people as they see interest and
pretty soon you're on dozens and dozens of people dist lists, often
multiple times as people are too lazy to remove the dups. 250/day?
WTF?! That's 250 times that the bad guys could - in your word - snag
her entire address book and 250 times the bad guys - or gals - could do
mischief to her PC. She claims that she knows all of them and they're
her friends. Poppycock!

So, unless one practices safe sex on the Internet, "a fool and his
money AND time are soon parted."

Maybe you should spend more of your meager financial resources and time
LEARNING about ships instead of wasting it just watching movies about
ships.

This is really off the wall. Bouler courteously offered some nice
thoughts, and Hemi jumps all over him! What gives? What happened to
civility?
You are so right. I had him killed filed and took him out to examine
the slug. He is back where he belongs in the kill file.

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I made severalcruises on EAGLE, the longest to Norway, England, Spain,
and Bermuda from New London.

HF




On Mon, 19 May 2008 02:11:52 GMT, "HEMI-Powered" wrote:

Bouler added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

The Spanish tall ship, Juan Sebastiain Elcano, a four-masted, topsail
schooner is in Miami for an R&R (liberty) and ceremonial visit.

Note the provisions for square sails on the forward mast and
fore-n-aft sails on the other three.

They have rigged a canvas cover for the main and quarterdecks and have
had receptions on board each night. It is rumored that the King of
Spain (or maybe his son) was here one night.

Miami has a huge Spanish presence. Even the Cuban population has ties
to Spain. Many of the families in the 1960-62 flight from Castro's
rise to power had only been in Cuba since they left Spain to escape
the Civil War of the late 1930. They consider themselves more Spanish
than Cuban.

The pics are not as sharp as I'd like due to fires in the Everglades
which are sending smoke over the city. And, my daughter has
"borrowed" my best camera. I'll try again this afternoon with it.

Here he is at full sail HiFlyer

Looks like a 4-masted schooner with a metal hull. If it is Spanish Navy,
it must be for the same purpose as the American Coast Guard training true
"tall ship", the Eagle, pics attached.

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joevan added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

Why did I remove you from my filtered list I don't know but back you
go again mr hack. Now you go cry to mommy and leave us alone.

I see you have also shown your true colors, so if you don't mind, ****
You Very Much and go away quietly, if you, please, or perhaps I can
encourage you to go away.

--
HP, aka Jerry

"You've obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a ****!"

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joevan added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

This is really off the wall. Bouler courteously offered some nice
thoughts, and Hemi jumps all over him! What gives? What happened to
civility?
You are so right. I had him killed filed and took him out to examine
the slug. He is back where he belongs in the kill file.

Bouler is a mental case who doesn't know how to deal with people nor does
he know jack **** about boats and ships. You appear to be the same, so
**** Off, Shut The **** Up, and Go The **** Away - permanently.

--
HP, aka Jerry

"You've obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a ****!"

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HiFlyer added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

I made severalcruises on EAGLE, the longest to Norway, England,
Spain, and Bermuda from New London.

HF

Really?! Would that maybe indicate you're either Navy or Coast Guard?
Sadly, the two pics of that beautiful steel huller I posted is all I
could easily find, but coulda swore I had more so if you run across
any, please post them. Thanks.

Now, I've been to New London, home of the Electric Boat Division but I
didn't know that was a place the Eagle might port.


On Mon, 19 May 2008 02:11:52 GMT, "HEMI-Powered"
wrote:

Bouler added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

The Spanish tall ship, Juan Sebastiain Elcano, a four-masted,
topsail schooner is in Miami for an R&R (liberty) and ceremonial
visit.

Note the provisions for square sails on the forward mast and
fore-n-aft sails on the other three.

They have rigged a canvas cover for the main and quarterdecks and
have had receptions on board each night. It is rumored that the
King of Spain (or maybe his son) was here one night.

Miami has a huge Spanish presence. Even the Cuban population has
ties to Spain. Many of the families in the 1960-62 flight from
Castro's rise to power had only been in Cuba since they left
Spain to escape the Civil War of the late 1930. They consider
themselves more Spanish than Cuban.

The pics are not as sharp as I'd like due to fires in the
Everglades which are sending smoke over the city. And, my
daughter has "borrowed" my best camera. I'll try again this
afternoon with it.

Here he is at full sail HiFlyer

Looks like a 4-masted schooner with a metal hull. If it is Spanish
Navy, it must be for the same purpose as the American Coast Guard
training true
"tall ship", the Eagle, pics attached.




--
HP, aka Jerry

"If it waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck"

USCGC EAGLE - 304.jpg (0/1)
 

The USCG Cutter (Barque) EAGLE, WIX-327 is based at the Coast Guard
Academy in New London, CT. She is used for Academy Cadet cruises
during the summer and for Officer Candidate School (OCS) cruises the
rest of the year.

HF


On Tue, 20 May 2008 02:15:58 GMT, "HEMI-Powered" wrote:

HiFlyer added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

I made severalcruises on EAGLE, the longest to Norway, England,
Spain, and Bermuda from New London.

HF

Really?! Would that maybe indicate you're either Navy or Coast Guard?
Sadly, the two pics of that beautiful steel huller I posted is all I
could easily find, but coulda swore I had more so if you run across
any, please post them. Thanks.

Now, I've been to New London, home of the Electric Boat Division but I
didn't know that was a place the Eagle might port.


On Mon, 19 May 2008 02:11:52 GMT, "HEMI-Powered"
wrote:

Bouler added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

The Spanish tall ship, Juan Sebastiain Elcano, a four-masted,
topsail schooner is in Miami for an R&R (liberty) and ceremonial
visit.

Note the provisions for square sails on the forward mast and
fore-n-aft sails on the other three.

They have rigged a canvas cover for the main and quarterdecks and
have had receptions on board each night. It is rumored that the
King of Spain (or maybe his son) was here one night.

Miami has a huge Spanish presence. Even the Cuban population has
ties to Spain. Many of the families in the 1960-62 flight from
Castro's rise to power had only been in Cuba since they left
Spain to escape the Civil War of the late 1930. They consider
themselves more Spanish than Cuban.

The pics are not as sharp as I'd like due to fires in the
Everglades which are sending smoke over the city. And, my
daughter has "borrowed" my best camera. I'll try again this
afternoon with it.

Here he is at full sail HiFlyer

Looks like a 4-masted schooner with a metal hull. If it is Spanish
Navy, it must be for the same purpose as the American Coast Guard
training true
"tall ship", the Eagle, pics attached.

USCGC EAGLE - 304.jpg (1/1)
 

USCGC EAGLE - 304.jpg (0/1)
 

HiFlyer added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

The USCG Cutter (Barque) EAGLE, WIX-327 is based at the Coast Guard
Academy in New London, CT. She is used for Academy Cadet cruises
during the summer and for Officer Candidate School (OCS) cruises the
rest of the year.

A "barque", that's what it is! I knew it wasn't a true "ship" while it
has 3 masts, one of them is sailed like a schooner with triangular
sails, not all 3 square-rigged. And, thanks for the info on where she
is berthed, I never knew she's in New London. The day we passed through
there so long ago, we had much bigger fish to fry, such as spending
time at the Mystic Seaport Village Musuem. It was getting late in the
day and I had to literally run from ship to ship to building to try to
snap as many 35mm as possible. Great place, lousy movie though.


On Tue, 20 May 2008 02:15:58 GMT, "HEMI-Powered"
wrote:

HiFlyer added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

I made severalcruises on EAGLE, the longest to Norway, England,
Spain, and Bermuda from New London.

HF

Really?! Would that maybe indicate you're either Navy or Coast Guard?
Sadly, the two pics of that beautiful steel huller I posted is all I
could easily find, but coulda swore I had more so if you run across
any, please post them. Thanks.

Now, I've been to New London, home of the Electric Boat Division but
I
didn't know that was a place the Eagle might port.


On Mon, 19 May 2008 02:11:52 GMT, "HEMI-Powered"
wrote:

Bouler added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

The Spanish tall ship, Juan Sebastiain Elcano, a four-masted,
topsail schooner is in Miami for an R&R (liberty) and
ceremonial
visit.

Note the provisions for square sails on the forward mast and
fore-n-aft sails on the other three.

They have rigged a canvas cover for the main and quarterdecks
and
have had receptions on board each night. It is rumored that the
King of Spain (or maybe his son) was here one night.

Miami has a huge Spanish presence. Even the Cuban population
has
ties to Spain. Many of the families in the 1960-62 flight from
Castro's rise to power had only been in Cuba since they left
Spain to escape the Civil War of the late 1930. They consider
themselves more Spanish than Cuban.

The pics are not as sharp as I'd like due to fires in the
Everglades which are sending smoke over the city. And, my
daughter has "borrowed" my best camera. I'll try again this
afternoon with it.

Here he is at full sail HiFlyer

Looks like a 4-masted schooner with a metal hull. If it is Spanish
Navy, it must be for the same purpose as the American Coast Guard
training true
"tall ship", the Eagle, pics attached.





--
HP, aka Jerry

"You've obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a ****!"