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fs: 1980 Allied Seawind Mk II 32' in N. Florida
Full keel well maintained vessel with skeg mounted rudder and deck-stepped
mast. Bluewater boat with a capsize screening value of 1.69 (Lower value indicates a more stable boat. The screening value must be under 2.00 in order to be offshore capable). Additional Specs, Equipment and Information: Builder/Designer Builder: Allied Seawind Designer: Tom Gillmer Dimensions LOA: 31'07" LWL: 25'06" Beam: 10'5" Displacement: 14900 Draft: 4'6" Bridge Clearance: 47'8" Ballast: 5800 Engines Engine(s): Westerbeke Engine(s) HP: 30 Hours: 2785 Tankage Fuel: 40 Gallons Water: 60 Gallons Holding: 15 Gallons Accommodations V Berth forward with locker to port. Main salon has port and starboard settees with bulkhead mounted fold-down dining table. Starboard settee converts to full size berth. Head W/shower to starboard aft of the forecabin with separate vanity. 6'2" Salon headroom. Galley "L" shaped and located to aft port a.. New refrigerator compressor and motor (2003) b.. Separate cold plate freezer c.. Separate cold plate refrigerator w/engine driven capability d.. Manual pressure system e.. Single deep Stainless steel sink a.. Samsung Microwave oven b.. Princess Gimballed propane oven and stove c.. (2) 20 Gallon porpane tanks d.. Hot & cold water pressure system Electronics & Electric (4)Instrument pod above companionway containing: Kenyon Apparent Wind and Annenemeter and Horizon Speed/log and Depth. a.. 3.5 KW Pazor genset (2003) b.. MarineAir airconditioning (2003) c.. Standard Horizon VHF radio d.. 30 amp shore power e.. Shore power cord f.. Sentry gas vapor detector g.. Safe-T-Alert CO2 detector h.. JBL CD stereo a.. X Power 700+ watt inverter b.. 65 amp alternator c.. 15 amp battery charger d.. (4) Gel batteries e.. Battery selector switch f.. Cockpit speakers g.. Bose salon speakers Deck & Sails a.. CQR 35# anchor w/250', 3/8" chain b.. Bruce 25# anchor w/250', 5/8" line c.. (2) Bow hawse pipes d.. Mast steps e.. Barient #21 Manual winch/windlass f.. Rithcie mizzen mounted powerdamp plus compass g.. (2) Dorades h.. companionway traveller for main a.. Mainsail b.. Mizzen c.. Roller furling Genoa d.. Lewmar #8 single speed winch on mast e.. Barient #18 single speed winch on mast f.. Barient #10 single speed winch on mast g.. (2) Lewmar #42 winches, coaming h.. (2) Barient #9 winches, coaming i.. Mizzen and mainsail tan UV covers Additional a.. Solid bronze seacocks b.. (2) 24" Hatches c.. Stainless steel boarding ladder d.. Edson rack and pinion steering system e.. Teak wheel with spokes f.. Extra heavy duty extruded aluminum rub rail g.. Window coverings h.. (4) Cabin fans i.. Lifesling system j.. First aid kit k.. Flare kits Located at the Bluewater Bay Marina in Niceville, Fl and offered at $49,900 a.. 5" Foam cushions and backrests b.. Tan dodger c.. (10) Aluminum opening ports d.. Jabsco manual M.S.D. e.. New exhaust system (2003) f.. Rebuilt injector pump (2003) g.. Raw water pump (2004) h.. (2) Racor 500 filters i.. Coast Guard Equipment ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rec.boats.marketplace is a moderated newsgroup. See rules and legal disclaimer at http://www.algebra.com/rbm |
fs: 1980 Allied Seawind Mk II 32' in N. Florida
HOW much??
Full keel well maintained vessel with skeg mounted rudder and deck-stepped mast. Bluewater boat with a capsize screening value of 1.69 (Lower value indicates a more stable boat. The screening value must be under 2.00 in order to be offshore capable). Additional Specs, Equipment and Information: Builder/Designer Builder: Allied Seawind Designer: Tom Gillmer Dimensions LOA: 31'07" LWL: 25'06" Beam: 10'5" Displacement: 14900 Draft: 4'6" Bridge Clearance: 47'8" Ballast: 5800 Engines Engine(s): Westerbeke Engine(s) HP: 30 Hours: 2785 Tankage Fuel: 40 Gallons Water: 60 Gallons Holding: 15 Gallons Accommodations V Berth forward with locker to port. Main salon has port and starboard settees with bulkhead mounted fold-down dining table. Starboard settee converts to full size berth. Head W/shower to starboard aft of the forecabin with separate vanity. 6'2" Salon headroom. Galley "L" shaped and located to aft port a.. New refrigerator compressor and motor (2003) b.. Separate cold plate freezer c.. Separate cold plate refrigerator w/engine driven capability d.. Manual pressure system e.. Single deep Stainless steel sink a.. Samsung Microwave oven b.. Princess Gimballed propane oven and stove c.. (2) 20 Gallon porpane tanks d.. Hot & cold water pressure system Electronics & Electric (4)Instrument pod above companionway containing: Kenyon Apparent Wind and Annenemeter and Horizon Speed/log and Depth. a.. 3.5 KW Pazor genset (2003) b.. MarineAir airconditioning (2003) c.. Standard Horizon VHF radio d.. 30 amp shore power e.. Shore power cord f.. Sentry gas vapor detector g.. Safe-T-Alert CO2 detector h.. JBL CD stereo a.. X Power 700+ watt inverter b.. 65 amp alternator c.. 15 amp battery charger d.. (4) Gel batteries e.. Battery selector switch f.. Cockpit speakers g.. Bose salon speakers Deck & Sails a.. CQR 35# anchor w/250', 3/8" chain b.. Bruce 25# anchor w/250', 5/8" line c.. (2) Bow hawse pipes d.. Mast steps e.. Barient #21 Manual winch/windlass f.. Rithcie mizzen mounted powerdamp plus compass g.. (2) Dorades h.. companionway traveller for main a.. Mainsail b.. Mizzen c.. Roller furling Genoa d.. Lewmar #8 single speed winch on mast e.. Barient #18 single speed winch on mast f.. Barient #10 single speed winch on mast g.. (2) Lewmar #42 winches, coaming h.. (2) Barient #9 winches, coaming i.. Mizzen and mainsail tan UV covers Additional a.. Solid bronze seacocks b.. (2) 24" Hatches c.. Stainless steel boarding ladder d.. Edson rack and pinion steering system e.. Teak wheel with spokes f.. Extra heavy duty extruded aluminum rub rail g.. Window coverings h.. (4) Cabin fans i.. Lifesling system j.. First aid kit k.. Flare kits Located at the Bluewater Bay Marina in Niceville, Fl and offered at $49,900 a.. 5" Foam cushions and backrests b.. Tan dodger c.. (10) Aluminum opening ports d.. Jabsco manual M.S.D. e.. New exhaust system (2003) f.. Rebuilt injector pump (2003) g.. Raw water pump (2004) h.. (2) Racor 500 filters i.. Coast Guard Equipment ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rec.boats.marketplace is a moderated newsgroup. See rules and legal disclaimer at http://www.algebra.com/rbm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rec.boats.marketplace is a moderated newsgroup. See rules and legal disclaimer at http://www.algebra.com/rbm |
fs: 1980 Allied Seawind Mk II 32' in N. Florida
On 21 Jul 2004 02:17:54 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:
HOW much?? per the listing... Located at the Bluewater Bay Marina in Niceville, Fl and offered at $49,900 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rec.boats.marketplace is a moderated newsgroup. See rules and legal disclaimer at http://www.algebra.com/rbm |
fs: 1980 Allied Seawind Mk II 32' in N. Florida
*****HHHHHOOOOOOWWWWWW***** (in case you missed the emphasis in the original
question) for this small, 22 year old 32 foot sailboat with about the performance, space and appeal of a Vanguard????? HOW much?? per the listing... Located at the Bluewater Bay Marina in Niceville, Fl and offered at $49,900 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rec.boats.marketplace is a moderated newsgroup. See rules and legal disclaimer at http://www.algebra.com/rbm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rec.boats.marketplace is a moderated newsgroup. See rules and legal disclaimer at http://www.algebra.com/rbm |
fs: 1980 Allied Seawind Mk II 32' in N. Florida
question) for this small, 22 year old 32 foot sailboat with about the
performance, space and appeal of a Vanguard????? An Allied Seawind is no Pearson Vanguard. It's far better. I recently sold one in CA for 41K that doesn't look as good. I have to say that the sailboat market is out of control as of late, with boats selling for really high prices. Maybe the gas prices are effecting things. If you have a "wanted" boat, you can name your price as of late. RB ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rec.boats.marketplace is a moderated newsgroup. See rules and legal disclaimer at http://www.algebra.com/rbm |
fs: 1980 Allied Seawind Mk II 32' in N. Florida
yet, there is a Sparkman & Stephans 38 footer going begging for several years
at much less asking? Something doesn't sound right. S&S doesn't mean a thing. Plenty of S&S boats out there that are crap. But Allied's are generally solid boats with a following like Westsails. RB ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rec.boats.marketplace is a moderated newsgroup. See rules and legal disclaimer at http://www.algebra.com/rbm |
fs: 1980 Allied Seawind Mk II 32' in N. Florida
We are selling our 38' Aluminum sloop, designed by S&S and built by Minnefords.
Below is a description, and a net adddress to a brokers site with pictures. Please Email for info. I've seen that before. Pretty boat, but she's a far different animal compared to the Allied. I'm surprised she's not sold yet, but some folks shy away from metal boats. Lots of history for that boat! RB ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rec.boats.marketplace is a moderated newsgroup. See rules and legal disclaimer at http://www.algebra.com/rbm |
fs: 1980 Allied Seawind Mk II 32' in N. Florida
S&S doesn't mean a thing. Plenty of S&S boats out there that are crap. But
Allied's are generally solid boats with a following like Westsails. S&S doesn't mean a thing. Plenty of S&S boats out there that are crap. But Allied's are generally solid boats with a following like Westsails. S&S doesn't mean a thing. Plenty of S&S boats out there that are crap. But Allied's are generally solid boats with a following like Westsails. Minneford's built good boats, and certainly Vanguards were solid boats. A Vanguard is longer, wider, more room, carries more sail, is very seaworthy and goes about 25% of the asking price of that particular Seawind. Besides, the wheel on a Vanguard doe not block the companion way. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rec.boats.marketplace is a moderated newsgroup. See rules and legal disclaimer at http://www.algebra.com/rbm |
fs: 1980 Allied Seawind Mk II 32' in N. Florida
Pretty boat, but she's a far different animal compared
to the Allied. that's a fact I'm surprised she's not sold yet, but some folks shy away from metal boats. Lots of history for that boat! he has been trying to push that boat for several years. Even at $42k he can't get an offer. I couldn't imagine paying $49k for a Seawind. Four years ago (near the height of the market) they were asking mid 20's. That one in Florida better be sumpin perfect and one no one else has. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rec.boats.marketplace is a moderated newsgroup. See rules and legal disclaimer at http://www.algebra.com/rbm |
fs: 1980 Allied Seawind Mk II 32' in N. Florida
Pretty boat, but she's a far different animal compared to the Allied. that's a fact I'm surprised she's not sold yet, but some folks shy away from metal boats. Lots of history for that boat! he has been trying to push that boat for several years. Even at $42k he can't get an offer. I couldn't imagine paying $49k for a Seawind. Four years ago (near the height of the market) they were asking mid 20's. That one in Florida better be sumpin perfect and one no one else has. Let me ask you sailors, how to value a used sailboat. I'm the owner of the 38' S&S aluminum sloop. We priced the boat at $54k orig, then dropped the price to $42k when we moved from OR to FL. The boat needs a little cosmetic work and a little tlc. If the boat looked like a showroom boat, we would be asking double the price. The new broker wants to double the price of the boat, to attract more buyers. Sometime low prices keep people away. Must be a piece of .... etc. She really is a strong, safe, and fast boat. So I ask you captains, what's a fair price for her? Oh, the reason we are selling her is My boat is in the backyard here in FL (on the hard) and we don't need 2! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rec.boats.marketplace is a moderated newsgroup. See rules and legal disclaimer at http://www.algebra.com/rbm |
fs: 1980 Allied Seawind Mk II 32' in N. Florida
Minneford's built good boats, and certainly Vanguards were solid boats. A
Vanguard is longer, wider, more room, carries more sail, is very seaworthy and goes about 25% of the asking price of that particular Seawind. The average buyer does not usually seek out a boat built at Minnefords. They want a boat people have heard of and one that can be resold. Pearson Vanguards sell under 20K all the time. They also have a variety of problems (mostly deck, such as gell peel) along with the Wanderers. The listed Allied is 10 years newer than the average Vanguard as well. The reputation of the Allied's is simply higher than the Vanguard. It's public perception that commands the market. RB ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rec.boats.marketplace is a moderated newsgroup. See rules and legal disclaimer at http://www.algebra.com/rbm |
fs: 1980 Allied Seawind Mk II 32' in N. Florida
Even at $42k he can't
get an offer. I couldn't imagine paying $49k for a Seawind. Four years ago (near the height of the market) they were asking mid 20's. Jax, the market is far higher now, especially for good name boats. It's bordering on silly with very high asking prices...and people are paying. Most of the people I know, who've traded up this year, all made money. Rough times for the deal seeker who wants a quality boat. My own C&C is worth much more today than she was just 5-6 years ago. RB ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rec.boats.marketplace is a moderated newsgroup. See rules and legal disclaimer at http://www.algebra.com/rbm |
fs: 1980 Allied Seawind Mk II 32' in N. Florida
I'm the owner of the 38' S&S aluminum sloop. We priced the boat at $54k orig,
then dropped the price to $42k when we moved from OR to FL. The boat needs a little cosmetic work and a little tlc. If the boat looked like a showroom boat, we would be asking double the price. You have a beautiful boat and she has good history. Your price is more than fair, but she's a very unique boat that seeks a unique buyer. Most folks want a "common" boat with a firm value (Pearson, Catalina, Hunter, Island Packet) and are worried about buying a boat like yours, unless they are well schooled and want "that" boat. I wish you the best of luck with her and hope she finds a home soon. Robert B N.M. Yacht Club ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rec.boats.marketplace is a moderated newsgroup. See rules and legal disclaimer at http://www.algebra.com/rbm |
fs: 1980 Allied Seawind Mk II 32' in N. Florida
yet, Westsails are going begging on SF area for under $30k, and bunches under
$40K to $50K. Saw a decent W-32 go for $27K in Melbourne, and an undecent one go for $19K in the keys just four months ago. $50k for a Seawind 32 needs a numskul buyer. Weather that arrives rapidly, leaves rapidly. Jax, the market is far higher now, especially for good name boats. It's bordering on silly with very high asking prices...and people are paying. Most of the people I know, who've traded up this year, all made money. Rough times for the deal seeker who wants a quality boat. My own C&C is worth much more today than she was just 5-6 years ago. RB ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rec.boats.marketplace is a moderated newsgroup. See rules and legal disclaimer at http://www.algebra.com/rbm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rec.boats.marketplace is a moderated newsgroup. See rules and legal disclaimer at http://www.algebra.com/rbm |
fs: 1980 Allied Seawind Mk II 32' in N. Florida
yet, Westsails are going begging on SF area for under $30k, and bunches under
$40K to $50K. Saw a decent W-32 go for $27K in Melbourne, and an undecent one go for $19K in the keys just four months ago. Bunches? There aren't bunches of westsails available. Out of 19 listed on Yachtworld, just 2 are below 40K and they are older examples. A really nice Westsail usually commands in the area of 35-45K and more if it's a late 70's or 1980's boat. Smart sellers ask for more and then deal. The Allied 2 will command mid 30s and up for a nice one. After some very good press on these boats as classic budget blue water boats, thier price jumped. I had the chance to buy a good one last year at 32K. I could have made another 10K just by flipping her, but someone in Whitestone beat me to it and did exactly that. RB ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rec.boats.marketplace is a moderated newsgroup. See rules and legal disclaimer at http://www.algebra.com/rbm |
fs: 1980 Allied Seawind Mk II 32' in N. Florida
$50k for a Seawind 32 needs a numskul buyer.
It's an "asking" price, Jax. If it's a nice enough boat, you work on the deal. If you owned one of these boats, you'd prefer top dollar as well. No need to hand over a popular design at a deal price to because someone else needs a bargain. I just put a deal together for someone on a C&C 33. The asking price was high and probably scared off a few folks. Too bad for them because the boat was a true gem and the owner was willing to deal. In the end everyone was happy. In my short time selling yachts, I've learned that asking prices are only skin deep. You don't let them worry you if you want the boat. Anyway, are you looking for an Allied boat? RB ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rec.boats.marketplace is a moderated newsgroup. See rules and legal disclaimer at http://www.algebra.com/rbm |
fs: 1980 Allied Seawind Mk II 32' in N. Florida
I just put a deal together for someone on a C&C 33.
stew's? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rec.boats.marketplace is a moderated newsgroup. See rules and legal disclaimer at http://www.algebra.com/rbm |
fs: 1980 Allied Seawind Mk II 32' in N. Florida
I just put a deal together for someone on a C&C 33.
stew's? No, it was a 1975, completely restored except for the standing rigging and red awlgrip. Asking was way to high at 39K, but reflected her gear and repower. She went for 27K because the owner liked my friend's sister! Hey, you use what you got! RB ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rec.boats.marketplace is a moderated newsgroup. See rules and legal disclaimer at http://www.algebra.com/rbm |
fs: 1980 Allied Seawind Mk II 32' in N. Florida
She
went for 27K I am aware of a decent one that went for $22k recently. Which seems a rather better deal than a Seawind for $49k asking. btw, I understand there are Westsail 42's coming asking for less than six figures today. I don't follow boats of that size once I figured out that traveling by sailboat needs only a place to sleep really. everything else is everything else, at least while sailing. anchored for months on end is something else. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rec.boats.marketplace is a moderated newsgroup. See rules and legal disclaimer at http://www.algebra.com/rbm |
fs: 1980 Allied Seawind Mk II 32' in N. Florida
I am aware of a decent one that went for $22k recently. Which seems a rather
better deal than a Seawind for $49k asking. I don't know much about decent boats. This particular C&C 33 was practically a showpiece, really beautiful and probably worth 40K based on sail inventory alone. Seawind for 49K asking has little to do with what she'll sell for and if she's a "gem" with a lot of gear, she may be worth far more than other examples. A Tartan 37 recently sold for 20K above FMV because of her state of restoration. Still, I find the price of sailboats to be steadily increasing for popular builders. Especially if you want a really nice example that is better than decent. RB ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rec.boats.marketplace is a moderated newsgroup. See rules and legal disclaimer at http://www.algebra.com/rbm |
fs: 1980 Allied Seawind Mk II 32' in N. Florida
btw, I understand there are Westsail 42's coming asking for less than six
figures today. I've never seen a W42 in person, so I can't comment. RB ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rec.boats.marketplace is a moderated newsgroup. See rules and legal disclaimer at http://www.algebra.com/rbm |
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