wrote:
On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:39:58 -0800, Tim wrote:


If Barry O is elected POTUS, and after it was taken through the process
of the Supreme Court ; it was found out that he was not a natural born
U.S citizen.... what would happen? Would he be forced to resign the
Presidency due to fraud, withholding evidence and/or obstruction of
justice?

I think you may be missing the point. If he is elected, he will be
elected by the *people*. Any messing with that is called a coup.

The courts have consistently maintained a hands off approach to this
issue, as they should. I would also point out, this does not only
concern Obama, it also concerns McCain. McCain's "natural born" status
is not a certainty. Let's make it easy on ourselves, let the voters
decide.

http://lsolum.typepad.com/legaltheor...el-j-chin.html

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.c...act_id=1157621

If you are born of US citizens in a local hospital in France are you a
natural born US citizen?

If you are born of US citizens in a US embassy in France are you a
natural born US citizen?

On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 07:57:32 -0500, BAR wrote:


http://lsolum.typepad.com/legaltheor...el-j-chin.html

If you are born of US citizens in a local hospital in France are you a
natural born US citizen?

If you are born of US citizens in a US embassy in France are you a
natural born US citizen?

Read the above link. There are complex legal issues involved. And you
think I'm going to answer either of the above questions? No way.

On Nov 4, 7:10*am, wrote:
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 07:57:32 -0500, BAR wrote:
http://lsolum.typepad.com/legaltheor...el-j-chin.html
If you are born of US citizens in a local hospital in France are you a
natural born US citizen?

If you are born of US citizens in a US embassy in France are you a
natural born US citizen?

Read the above link. *There are complex legal issues involved. *And you
think I'm going to answer either of the above questions? *No way.

Yes, there are complex legal issues involved, And no, I don't believe
I'm missing the point. My question[s], even though hypothetical would
or at least should have a concrete answer.

On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:37:03 -0800, Tim wrote:


Yes, there are complex legal issues involved, And no, I don't believe
I'm missing the point. My question[s], even though hypothetical would or
at least should have a concrete answer.

Sorry, but it beats me. I'm guessing the Presidential Succession Act
would be used.

On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 05:37:03 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Nov 4, 7:10*am, wrote:
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 07:57:32 -0500, BAR wrote:
http://lsolum.typepad.com/legaltheor...el-j-chin.html
If you are born of US citizens in a local hospital in France are you a
natural born US citizen?

If you are born of US citizens in a US embassy in France are you a
natural born US citizen?

Read the above link. *There are complex legal issues involved. *And you
think I'm going to answer either of the above questions? *No way.

Yes, there are complex legal issues involved, And no, I don't believe
I'm missing the point. My question[s], even though hypothetical would
or at least should have a concrete answer.

FWIW, my older daughter was born in Bad Kreuznach, Germany. She had dual
citizenship until age 21. At that point she chose to be a US citizen, even
though Harry was living in the country at the time.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

"JohnH" wrote in message
...


FWIW, my older daughter was born in Bad Kreuznach, Germany. She had dual
citizenship until age 21. At that point she chose to be a US citizen, even
though Harry was living in the country at the time.

Similar situation with our daughter. She was born in Italy in a US Navy
Hospital in Naples.
She held dual Italian/American citizenship until the age of 18. No action
was required at that point, unless she had wanted to be an Italian citizen
only. In that case she would have renounced her American citizenship.

By default, at 18, her Italian citizenship was renounced and she became an
American citizen.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"JohnH" wrote in message
...


FWIW, my older daughter was born in Bad Kreuznach, Germany. She had dual
citizenship until age 21. At that point she chose to be a US citizen,
even
though Harry was living in the country at the time.

Similar situation with our daughter. She was born in Italy in a US Navy
Hospital in Naples.
She held dual Italian/American citizenship until the age of 18. No
action was required at that point, unless she had wanted to be an Italian
citizen only. In that case she would have renounced her American
citizenship.

By default, at 18, her Italian citizenship was renounced and she became an
American citizen.

Eisboch

Is she *natural* or *naturalized*? 8)

On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:31:24 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .


FWIW, my older daughter was born in Bad Kreuznach, Germany. She had dual
citizenship until age 21. At that point she chose to be a US citizen, even
though Harry was living in the country at the time.

Similar situation with our daughter. She was born in Italy in a US Navy
Hospital in Naples.
She held dual Italian/American citizenship until the age of 18. No action
was required at that point, unless she had wanted to be an Italian citizen
only. In that case she would have renounced her American citizenship.

By default, at 18, her Italian citizenship was renounced and she became an
American citizen.

Eisboch


I thought it was 21, but when I read your response I called my daughter.
You're right, it was 18. She doesn't remember what she went through, so it
couldn't have been much. I think she got a notice saying if she did nothing
she'd be a US citizen. I was in Germany at the time and she was living with
her mom.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

wrote:
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 07:57:32 -0500, BAR wrote:


http://lsolum.typepad.com/legaltheor...el-j-chin.html

If you are born of US citizens in a local hospital in France are you a
natural born US citizen?

If you are born of US citizens in a US embassy in France are you a
natural born US citizen?

Read the above link. There are complex legal issues involved. And you
think I'm going to answer either of the above questions? No way.

One occurs on US soil and one does not.

"BAR" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:39:58 -0800, Tim wrote:


If Barry O is elected POTUS, and after it was taken through the process
of the Supreme Court ; it was found out that he was not a natural born
U.S citizen.... what would happen? Would he be forced to resign the
Presidency due to fraud, withholding evidence and/or obstruction of
justice?

I think you may be missing the point. If he is elected, he will be
elected by the *people*. Any messing with that is called a coup. The
courts have consistently maintained a hands off approach to this issue,
as they should. I would also point out, this does not only concern
Obama, it also concerns McCain. McCain's "natural born" status is not a
certainty. Let's make it easy on ourselves, let the voters decide.

http://lsolum.typepad.com/legaltheor...el-j-chin.html

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.c...act_id=1157621

If you are born of US citizens in a local hospital in France are you a
natural born US citizen?

If you are born of US citizens in a US embassy in France are you a natural
born US citizen?


The 1790 Congress, many of whose members had been members of the
Constitutional Convention, provided in the Naturalization Act of 1790 that
"And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond
the sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as
natural born citizens." In addition George Washington was president of the
Constitutional Convention and President of the United States when this bill
became law. If Washington disagreed with this definition, he could have
vetoed this bill.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born_citizen