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[email protected] November 1st 08 05:30 PM

Makin my vote count
 
Being inspired by the Democrats and their ideas on voting, I have
checked in states I have lived in the past and find I am still
registered to vote in FL, TX, CO, WY, AL, and GA. So, always being
one to do my civic duty to my utmost, I plan to vote for McCain as
much as I can.

Boater November 1st 08 05:40 PM

Makin my vote count
 
wrote:
Being inspired by the Democrats and their ideas on voting, I have
checked in states I have lived in the past and find I am still
registered to vote in FL, TX, CO, WY, AL, and GA. So, always being
one to do my civic duty to my utmost, I plan to vote for McCain as
much as I can.



Stupid is as stupid does... :)

[email protected] November 1st 08 06:21 PM

Makin my vote count
 
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 10:30:20 -0700, ohara5.0 wrote:

Being inspired by the Democrats and their ideas on voting, I have
checked in states I have lived in the past and find I am still
registered to vote in FL, TX, CO, WY, AL, and GA. So, always being one
to do my civic duty to my utmost, I plan to vote for McCain as much as I
can.


Sure, but I wouldn't bother with TX, WY, or AL. They are not in play.
CO isn't really either, but what the hey. Now, FL and GA, your vote
could make a difference.

Boater November 1st 08 06:27 PM

Makin my vote count
 
wrote:
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 10:30:20 -0700, ohara5.0 wrote:

Being inspired by the Democrats and their ideas on voting, I have
checked in states I have lived in the past and find I am still
registered to vote in FL, TX, CO, WY, AL, and GA. So, always being one
to do my civic duty to my utmost, I plan to vote for McCain as much as I
can.


Sure, but I wouldn't bother with TX, WY, or AL. They are not in play.
CO isn't really either, but what the hey. Now, FL and GA, your vote
could make a difference.



I find it amazing that it is even possible Georgia is in play, and that
a poll indicates that Arizona is within the margin of error.

[email protected] November 1st 08 06:35 PM

Makin my vote count
 
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 14:27:35 -0400, Boater wrote:


Sure, but I wouldn't bother with TX, WY, or AL. They are not in play.
CO isn't really either, but what the hey. Now, FL and GA, your vote
could make a difference.



I find it amazing that it is even possible Georgia is in play, and that
a poll indicates that Arizona is within the margin of error.


Or NC, ND, MT, and IN. FL seems to be the only "battleground" state
still in play. Although, the race does seem to be tightening on a daily
basis.

Eisboch November 1st 08 07:08 PM

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"Boater" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 10:30:20 -0700, ohara5.0 wrote:

Being inspired by the Democrats and their ideas on voting, I have
checked in states I have lived in the past and find I am still
registered to vote in FL, TX, CO, WY, AL, and GA. So, always being one
to do my civic duty to my utmost, I plan to vote for McCain as much as I
can.


Sure, but I wouldn't bother with TX, WY, or AL. They are not in play.
CO isn't really either, but what the hey. Now, FL and GA, your vote
could make a difference.



I find it amazing that it is even possible Georgia is in play, and that a
poll indicates that Arizona is within the margin of error.



I find it amazing and disgusting that the Obama campaign has raised nearly
(if not over) a billion dollars to run for president.
Think about that. A billion dollars. Out-spent McCain by over four to
one.

Eisboch



[email protected] November 1st 08 07:22 PM

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On Nov 1, 3:08*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message

...





wrote:
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 10:30:20 -0700, ohara5.0 wrote:


Being inspired by the Democrats and their ideas on voting, I have
checked in states I have lived in the past and find I am still
registered to vote in FL, TX, CO, WY, AL, and GA. *So, always being one
to do my civic duty to my utmost, I plan to vote for McCain as much as I
can.


Sure, but I wouldn't bother with TX, WY, or AL. *They are not in play.
CO isn't really either, but what the hey. *Now, FL and GA, your vote
could make a difference.


I find it amazing that it is even possible Georgia is in play, and that a
poll indicates that Arizona is within the margin of error.


I find it amazing and disgusting that the Obama campaign has raised nearly
(if not over) a billion dollars to run for president.
Think about that. *A billion dollars. * Out-spent McCain by over four to
one.

Eisboch-


Obama has supposedly energized the young and the poor, but they don't
have a billion bucks to send him. So where's all that money really
coming from? If he's elected, I have a feeling that very few
Americans are going to like what he has to do to pay back that debt.
Someone owns him.


Eisboch November 1st 08 10:01 PM

Makin my vote count
 

wrote in message
...
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 15:08:30 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I find it amazing and disgusting that the Obama campaign has raised nearly
(if not over) a billion dollars to run for president.
Think about that. A billion dollars. Out-spent McCain by over four to
one.

Eisboch


The biggest effect of that is how much the networks are in the bag for
Obama. After all he is one of their biggest advertisers and we know
they always want to make the advertisers happy.
I noticed the day of the Infomercial Obama got a 7 minute interview
with Williams and no real questions, McCain just got a 4 minute
segment where an infobabe told us how bad his campaign was going.



I am telling ya, the whole thing is disgusting.

Eisboch



Boater November 1st 08 10:19 PM

Makin my vote count
 
wrote:
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 15:08:30 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I find it amazing and disgusting that the Obama campaign has raised nearly
(if not over) a billion dollars to run for president.
Think about that. A billion dollars. Out-spent McCain by over four to
one.

Eisboch


The biggest effect of that is how much the networks are in the bag for
Obama. After all he is one of their biggest advertisers and we know
they always want to make the advertisers happy.
I noticed the day of the Infomercial Obama got a 7 minute interview
with Williams and no real questions, McCain just got a 4 minute
segment where an infobabe told us how bad his campaign was going.



So...you fellows are against capitalism, eh?

[email protected] November 2nd 08 12:05 AM

Makin my vote count
 
On Nov 1, 3:08*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message

...





wrote:
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 10:30:20 -0700, ohara5.0 wrote:


Being inspired by the Democrats and their ideas on voting, I have
checked in states I have lived in the past and find I am still
registered to vote in FL, TX, CO, WY, AL, and GA. *So, always being one
to do my civic duty to my utmost, I plan to vote for McCain as much as I
can.


Sure, but I wouldn't bother with TX, WY, or AL. *They are not in play.
CO isn't really either, but what the hey. *Now, FL and GA, your vote
could make a difference.


I find it amazing that it is even possible Georgia is in play, and that a
poll indicates that Arizona is within the margin of error.


I find it amazing and disgusting that the Obama campaign has raised nearly
(if not over) a billion dollars to run for president.
Think about that. *A billion dollars. * Out-spent McCain by over four to
one.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

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Yeah, untracable cards and turning off the evs verification so anyone
can donate as much as possible.. Fraud and voter supression, are the
main election tools of the DNC and it's fronts...

Boater November 2nd 08 12:27 AM

Makin my vote count
 
wrote:
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 18:19:18 -0400, Boater
wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 15:08:30 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I find it amazing and disgusting that the Obama campaign has raised nearly
(if not over) a billion dollars to run for president.
Think about that. A billion dollars. Out-spent McCain by over four to
one.

Eisboch
The biggest effect of that is how much the networks are in the bag for
Obama. After all he is one of their biggest advertisers and we know
they always want to make the advertisers happy.
I noticed the day of the Infomercial Obama got a 7 minute interview
with Williams and no real questions, McCain just got a 4 minute
segment where an infobabe told us how bad his campaign was going.


So...you fellows are against capitalism, eh?


Let's just see how it goes. Obama has a half a billion favors to pay
back and the rich people will be at the head of the line.
As long as we let money decide elections, don't be surprised when the
monied people get all the breaks.



I didn't see the seven minute Williams interview nor the four minute
McCain segment. This past week, though, I noticed that both CNN and
MSNBC devoted a lot of news time in the day segments to McCain and
Palin, whose every appearance was dominated mostly by their trashing
Obama and bringing up Joe the Non-Licensed Plumber. Not much news in that.

Boater November 2nd 08 02:14 AM

Makin my vote count
 
wrote:
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 20:27:36 -0400, Boater
wrote:

I didn't see the seven minute Williams interview nor the four minute
McCain segment. This past week, though, I noticed that both CNN and
MSNBC devoted a lot of news time in the day segments to McCain and
Palin, whose every appearance was dominated mostly by their trashing
Obama and bringing up Joe the Non-Licensed Plumber. Not much news in that.


Obama didn't buy $5 million dollars worth of time on CNN, coincidence?
maybe



Whatever point you are trying to make here, well, I don't know what it is.

McCain is running the dirtiest campaign since Nixon's CREEP. That is not
the fault of Obama or his ability to raise campaign funds.

[email protected] November 2nd 08 08:58 AM

Makin my vote count
 
On Nov 2, 12:01*am, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 22:14:34 -0400, Boater
wrote:

I didn't see the seven minute Williams interview nor the four minute
McCain segment. This past week, though, I noticed that both CNN and
MSNBC devoted a lot of news time in the day segments to McCain and
Palin, whose every appearance was dominated mostly by their trashing
Obama and bringing up Joe the Non-Licensed Plumber. Not much news in that.


Obama didn't buy $5 million dollars worth of time on CNN, coincidence?
maybe


Whatever point you are trying to make here, well, I don't know what it is.


I believe the ad money Obama is spending is also buying a lot of bias.
You just gave me an example. I am sure if it was McCain who had all
the money they would be throwing him soft balls and lots of free air
time.

Maybe the GOP will be a little more accepting of restoring the equal
time rule now. Personally I don't like candidates sold like beer on
TV. It is the TV money that corrupts these guys. You don't need a half
a billion dollars for buttons and bumper stickers.
Until we get the money incentive out of these races you are just
encouraging legal bribery. *The problems is that this is such a cash
cow for the networks they will fight it tooth and nail. 90% of the
billion spent on this cycle went to a half dozen media companies.
Nobody saw ONE thing of value in an ad that they didn't see dozens of
times in interviews on the various news shows.


The biggest problem is, like the Clintons before him, we really don't
know who is buying Obama. They have done everything to allow as many
illegal contributions as they can to the campaign. There are literally
millions of undocumented dollars coming in, and every means of
tracking them has been eliminated by the Obama staff. Of course they
know Pelosi and Reid won't allow an investigation, remember William
Jefferson, with the $90,000 in his freezer.. But take poor Joe the
Plumber? Quite a contrast now, huh?

Eisboch November 2nd 08 09:34 AM

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"Boater" wrote in message
...


McCain is running the dirtiest campaign since Nixon's CREEP. That is not
the fault of Obama or his ability to raise campaign funds.



You keep saying that, yet many of your contemporaries, like Chris Mathews,
are expressing amazement that McCain didn't get down and dirty with Obama,
particularly on the Rev. Wright issue.

No, McCain didn't run a particularly dirty campaign. Some of his supporters
in isolated areas did some stupid things, but so did Obama's. Neither have
leashes on everyone.

You have the habit and style of repeating things over and over until they
become facts in your mind. So do many of the third string pundits.

Eisboch



Boater November 2nd 08 11:11 AM

Makin my vote count
 
wrote:
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 22:14:34 -0400, Boater
wrote:

I didn't see the seven minute Williams interview nor the four minute
McCain segment. This past week, though, I noticed that both CNN and
MSNBC devoted a lot of news time in the day segments to McCain and
Palin, whose every appearance was dominated mostly by their trashing
Obama and bringing up Joe the Non-Licensed Plumber. Not much news in that.
Obama didn't buy $5 million dollars worth of time on CNN, coincidence?
maybe


Whatever point you are trying to make here, well, I don't know what it is.


I believe the ad money Obama is spending is also buying a lot of bias.
You just gave me an example. I am sure if it was McCain who had all
the money they would be throwing him soft balls and lots of free air
time.

Maybe the GOP will be a little more accepting of restoring the equal
time rule now. Personally I don't like candidates sold like beer on
TV. It is the TV money that corrupts these guys. You don't need a half
a billion dollars for buttons and bumper stickers.
Until we get the money incentive out of these races you are just
encouraging legal bribery. The problems is that this is such a cash
cow for the networks they will fight it tooth and nail. 90% of the
billion spent on this cycle went to a half dozen media companies.
Nobody saw ONE thing of value in an ad that they didn't see dozens of
times in interviews on the various news shows.



It's not "bias" when the cable TV networks show the candidates
delivering their stump speeches, and virtually all McCan and Palin do is
attack their opponents in theirs. That what I was referring to...and the
coverage has nothing to do with the money being spent. The cable
stations play most of the stump speeches of both sides.

Boater November 2nd 08 11:14 AM

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Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

McCain is running the dirtiest campaign since Nixon's CREEP. That is not
the fault of Obama or his ability to raise campaign funds.



You keep saying that, yet many of your contemporaries, like Chris Mathews,
are expressing amazement that McCain didn't get down and dirty with Obama,
particularly on the Rev. Wright issue.

No, McCain didn't run a particularly dirty campaign. Some of his supporters
in isolated areas did some stupid things, but so did Obama's. Neither have
leashes on everyone.

You have the habit and style of repeating things over and over until they
become facts in your mind. So do many of the third string pundits.

Eisboch




You're not living in a contested state or next to one. I do. I see lots
of McCain television commercials you do not. All McCain does is
attack-attack-attack. Dirty.

D.Duck November 2nd 08 11:17 AM

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"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

McCain is running the dirtiest campaign since Nixon's CREEP. That is not
the fault of Obama or his ability to raise campaign funds.



You keep saying that, yet many of your contemporaries, like Chris
Mathews, are expressing amazement that McCain didn't get down and dirty
with Obama, particularly on the Rev. Wright issue.

No, McCain didn't run a particularly dirty campaign. Some of his
supporters in isolated areas did some stupid things, but so did Obama's.
Neither have leashes on everyone.

You have the habit and style of repeating things over and over until they
become facts in your mind. So do many of the third string pundits.

Eisboch



You're not living in a contested state or next to one. I do. I see lots of
McCain television commercials you do not. All McCain does is
attack-attack-attack. Dirty.


I live in Florida, a *hotly* contested state and I don't see much of
anything out of the *ordinary*.

At this stage of the campaign it's all pretty boring, nothing new, and
Wednesday cannot come soon enough.



Eisboch November 2nd 08 12:08 PM

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"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

McCain is running the dirtiest campaign since Nixon's CREEP. That is not
the fault of Obama or his ability to raise campaign funds.



You keep saying that, yet many of your contemporaries, like Chris
Mathews, are expressing amazement that McCain didn't get down and dirty
with Obama, particularly on the Rev. Wright issue.

No, McCain didn't run a particularly dirty campaign. Some of his
supporters in isolated areas did some stupid things, but so did Obama's.
Neither have leashes on everyone.

You have the habit and style of repeating things over and over until they
become facts in your mind. So do many of the third string pundits.

Eisboch



You're not living in a contested state or next to one. I do. I see lots of
McCain television commercials you do not. All McCain does is
attack-attack-attack. Dirty.


Your are correct. My state was Obama from the get-go. Not even worth
voting in. But, my point was that even political fanatics like Mathews has
commented that McCain himself has not run a particularly "dirty" campaign.
He made that point last night and indicated that he was quite amazed by it.

Eisboch



Boater November 2nd 08 12:23 PM

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Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

McCain is running the dirtiest campaign since Nixon's CREEP. That is not
the fault of Obama or his ability to raise campaign funds.

You keep saying that, yet many of your contemporaries, like Chris
Mathews, are expressing amazement that McCain didn't get down and dirty
with Obama, particularly on the Rev. Wright issue.

No, McCain didn't run a particularly dirty campaign. Some of his
supporters in isolated areas did some stupid things, but so did Obama's.
Neither have leashes on everyone.

You have the habit and style of repeating things over and over until they
become facts in your mind. So do many of the third string pundits.

Eisboch


You're not living in a contested state or next to one. I do. I see lots of
McCain television commercials you do not. All McCain does is
attack-attack-attack. Dirty.


Your are correct. My state was Obama from the get-go. Not even worth
voting in. But, my point was that even political fanatics like Mathews has
commented that McCain himself has not run a particularly "dirty" campaign.
He made that point last night and indicated that he was quite amazed by it.

Eisboch



Well, we all have our perceptions...I think McCain and Palin have run a
slimeball campaign the likes of which I have not seen since CREEP.
Apparently the public doesn't really like that sort of crap much
anymore. Add to that the weakness of McCain himself as a candidate, his
poor judgment, his doddering and hopefully, on Tuesday, McCain and the
GOP will be blown out of the water.

Sarah Palin - nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.



BAR[_3_] November 2nd 08 01:32 PM

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Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

McCain is running the dirtiest campaign since Nixon's CREEP. That is
not the fault of Obama or his ability to raise campaign funds.



You keep saying that, yet many of your contemporaries, like Chris
Mathews, are expressing amazement that McCain didn't get down and
dirty with Obama, particularly on the Rev. Wright issue.

No, McCain didn't run a particularly dirty campaign. Some of his
supporters in isolated areas did some stupid things, but so did
Obama's. Neither have leashes on everyone.

You have the habit and style of repeating things over and over until
they become facts in your mind. So do many of the third string pundits.

Eisboch



You're not living in a contested state or next to one. I do. I see lots
of McCain television commercials you do not. All McCain does is
attack-attack-attack. Dirty.


Harry your view of McCain is through a tinted lens. I see the same ads
that you do and you believe that stating the truth about your party's
candidate is an attack. You truly are a partisan hack.



Boater November 2nd 08 01:46 PM

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BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

McCain is running the dirtiest campaign since Nixon's CREEP. That is
not the fault of Obama or his ability to raise campaign funds.


You keep saying that, yet many of your contemporaries, like Chris
Mathews, are expressing amazement that McCain didn't get down and
dirty with Obama, particularly on the Rev. Wright issue.

No, McCain didn't run a particularly dirty campaign. Some of his
supporters in isolated areas did some stupid things, but so did
Obama's. Neither have leashes on everyone.

You have the habit and style of repeating things over and over until
they become facts in your mind. So do many of the third string pundits.

Eisboch



You're not living in a contested state or next to one. I do. I see
lots of McCain television commercials you do not. All McCain does is
attack-attack-attack. Dirty.


Harry your view of McCain is through a tinted lens. I see the same ads
that you do and you believe that stating the truth about your party's
candidate is an attack. You truly are a partisan hack.




The point is, my dim-witted friend, is that *all* McCain has to sell is
attack. He's got no plans, no proposals, no ideas, no vision, no view of
how we can make America better. All he seems to be able to do is sell
fear-doubt-smear. That works on the Republican base, I suppose.

I'm still waiting to hear more about the "plan" McCain often mentions to
"get Osama bin Laden." If he isn't elected, will he *then* share that
plan with the elected leaders of this country?

McCain thought his history as a P.O.W. would be enough to get him
elected. You know what? It was more than 30 years ago and it isn't
particularly relevant. It's not like JFK's PT-109 adventures. McCain is
no JFK.




[email protected] November 2nd 08 02:19 PM

Makin my vote count
 
On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 07:08:25 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


Your are correct. My state was Obama from the get-go. Not even worth
voting in. But, my point was that even political fanatics like Mathews
has commented that McCain himself has not run a particularly "dirty"
campaign. He made that point last night and indicated that he was quite
amazed by it.


I agree with you. McCain's campaign may have been somewhat "negative",
but I wouldn't consider it dirty. There have been no "whisper campaigns"
alleging illicit children, no "Willie Horton" ads, etc. Personally, I
think it's been the cleanest campaign in recent memory, from both sides.
Still, what happens Tuesday could make up for it.

BAR[_3_] November 2nd 08 03:22 PM

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Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

McCain is running the dirtiest campaign since Nixon's CREEP. That
is not the fault of Obama or his ability to raise campaign funds.


You keep saying that, yet many of your contemporaries, like Chris
Mathews, are expressing amazement that McCain didn't get down and
dirty with Obama, particularly on the Rev. Wright issue.

No, McCain didn't run a particularly dirty campaign. Some of his
supporters in isolated areas did some stupid things, but so did
Obama's. Neither have leashes on everyone.

You have the habit and style of repeating things over and over until
they become facts in your mind. So do many of the third string
pundits.

Eisboch



You're not living in a contested state or next to one. I do. I see
lots of McCain television commercials you do not. All McCain does is
attack-attack-attack. Dirty.


Harry your view of McCain is through a tinted lens. I see the same ads
that you do and you believe that stating the truth about your party's
candidate is an attack. You truly are a partisan hack.




The point is, my dim-witted friend, is that *all* McCain has to sell is
attack. He's got no plans, no proposals, no ideas, no vision, no view of
how we can make America better. All he seems to be able to do is sell
fear-doubt-smear. That works on the Republican base, I suppose.


Can you define "Better", Obama sure as hell won't. All Obama says is
"Change." Change to what? Why the change? What does he want to change us
to?

I'm still waiting to hear more about the "plan" McCain often mentions to
"get Osama bin Laden." If he isn't elected, will he *then* share that
plan with the elected leaders of this country?


There is no reason to waste any effort on "getting" Osama bin Laden. Bin
Laden is hiding in caves, if he is still alive. An emasculated man who
is afraid to fight on the field of battle.

McCain thought his history as a P.O.W. would be enough to get him
elected. You know what? It was more than 30 years ago and it isn't
particularly relevant. It's not like JFK's PT-109 adventures. McCain is
no JFK.


McCain is using his status as a "maverick" to become president and his
status as a former POW as being tested in the face of an enemy.

Kennedy's PT-109 adventure? How do you get run over by a Japanese
destroyer without knowing that the destroyer is bearing down on you
hard. The one and only thing the Kennedy clan has done that is good for
the USA is by killing themselves off or being killed. Good old Joe
Kennedy funded the family through illegal activity.

Boater November 2nd 08 03:24 PM

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BAR wrote:


McCain is using his status as a "maverick" to become president and his
status as a former POW as being tested in the face of an enemy.



He's not a maverick, and if he learned anything important from his POW
days, he should have fought Bush more on prisoner torture.




Kennedy's PT-109 adventure? How do you get run over by a Japanese
destroyer without knowing that the destroyer is bearing down on you
hard. The one and only thing the Kennedy clan has done that is good for
the USA is by killing themselves off or being killed. Good old Joe
Kennedy funded the family through illegal activity.



Yep. You are an asshole.

[email protected] November 2nd 08 03:32 PM

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On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 10:22:38 -0500, BAR wrote:


There is no reason to waste any effort on "getting" Osama bin Laden. Bin
Laden is hiding in caves, if he is still alive. An emasculated man who
is afraid to fight on the field of battle.


I don't understand this line of reasoning. The man is directly
responsible for the deaths of over 3000 Americans. I want his head on a
pike.

If bin Laden isn't important, what are we doing in Afghanistan?

BAR[_3_] November 2nd 08 03:38 PM

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wrote:
On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 10:22:38 -0500, BAR wrote:


There is no reason to waste any effort on "getting" Osama bin Laden. Bin
Laden is hiding in caves, if he is still alive. An emasculated man who
is afraid to fight on the field of battle.


I don't understand this line of reasoning. The man is directly
responsible for the deaths of over 3000 Americans. I want his head on a
pike.

If bin Laden isn't important, what are we doing in Afghanistan?


Will you spend $1,000,000,000,000 dollars to put his head on a pike?


Boater November 2nd 08 03:41 PM

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wrote:
On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 10:22:38 -0500, BAR wrote:


There is no reason to waste any effort on "getting" Osama bin Laden. Bin
Laden is hiding in caves, if he is still alive. An emasculated man who
is afraid to fight on the field of battle.


I don't understand this line of reasoning. The man is directly
responsible for the deaths of over 3000 Americans. I want his head on a
pike.

If bin Laden isn't important, what are we doing in Afghanistan?



Battle-tested BAR (he served stateside) is apologizing for Bush, still.

Jim November 2nd 08 04:14 PM

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Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

McCain is running the dirtiest campaign since Nixon's CREEP. That
is not the fault of Obama or his ability to raise campaign funds.


You keep saying that, yet many of your contemporaries, like Chris
Mathews, are expressing amazement that McCain didn't get down and
dirty with Obama, particularly on the Rev. Wright issue.

No, McCain didn't run a particularly dirty campaign. Some of his
supporters in isolated areas did some stupid things, but so did
Obama's. Neither have leashes on everyone.

You have the habit and style of repeating things over and over until
they become facts in your mind. So do many of the third string
pundits.

Eisboch



You're not living in a contested state or next to one. I do. I see
lots of McCain television commercials you do not. All McCain does is
attack-attack-attack. Dirty.


Harry your view of McCain is through a tinted lens. I see the same ads
that you do and you believe that stating the truth about your party's
candidate is an attack. You truly are a partisan hack.




The point is, my dim-witted friend, is that *all* McCain has to sell is
attack. He's got no plans, no proposals, no ideas, no vision, no view of
how we can make America better. All he seems to be able to do is sell
fear-doubt-smear. That works on the Republican base, I suppose.

I'm still waiting to hear more about the "plan" McCain often mentions to
"get Osama bin Laden." If he isn't elected, will he *then* share that
plan with the elected leaders of this country?

McCain thought his history as a P.O.W. would be enough to get him
elected. You know what? It was more than 30 years ago and it isn't
particularly relevant. It's not like JFK's PT-109 adventures. McCain is
no JFK.



Obama seems to have done well with his "chicken in every pot theme" Too
bad for McCain that he couldn't stooop that low to trick the pooor and
hungry.

JohnH[_3_] November 3rd 08 12:32 PM

Makin my vote count
 
On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 06:14:17 -0500, Boater wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

McCain is running the dirtiest campaign since Nixon's CREEP. That is not
the fault of Obama or his ability to raise campaign funds.



You keep saying that, yet many of your contemporaries, like Chris Mathews,
are expressing amazement that McCain didn't get down and dirty with Obama,
particularly on the Rev. Wright issue.

No, McCain didn't run a particularly dirty campaign. Some of his supporters
in isolated areas did some stupid things, but so did Obama's. Neither have
leashes on everyone.

You have the habit and style of repeating things over and over until they
become facts in your mind. So do many of the third string pundits.

Eisboch




You're not living in a contested state or next to one. I do. I see lots
of McCain television commercials you do not. All McCain does is
attack-attack-attack. Dirty.


I live *in * the state to which you refer, and I find your assertions full
of crap.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

Boater November 3rd 08 12:35 PM

Makin my vote count
 
JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 06:14:17 -0500, Boater wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

McCain is running the dirtiest campaign since Nixon's CREEP. That is not
the fault of Obama or his ability to raise campaign funds.

You keep saying that, yet many of your contemporaries, like Chris Mathews,
are expressing amazement that McCain didn't get down and dirty with Obama,
particularly on the Rev. Wright issue.

No, McCain didn't run a particularly dirty campaign. Some of his supporters
in isolated areas did some stupid things, but so did Obama's. Neither have
leashes on everyone.

You have the habit and style of repeating things over and over until they
become facts in your mind. So do many of the third string pundits.

Eisboch



You're not living in a contested state or next to one. I do. I see lots
of McCain television commercials you do not. All McCain does is
attack-attack-attack. Dirty.


I live *in * the state to which you refer, and I find your assertions full
of crap.



You're looking inward again.

BAR[_3_] November 3rd 08 12:43 PM

Makin my vote count
 
Boater wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 06:14:17 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

McCain is running the dirtiest campaign since Nixon's CREEP. That
is not the fault of Obama or his ability to raise campaign funds.

You keep saying that, yet many of your contemporaries, like Chris
Mathews, are expressing amazement that McCain didn't get down and
dirty with Obama, particularly on the Rev. Wright issue.

No, McCain didn't run a particularly dirty campaign. Some of his
supporters in isolated areas did some stupid things, but so did
Obama's. Neither have leashes on everyone.

You have the habit and style of repeating things over and over until
they become facts in your mind. So do many of the third string
pundits.

Eisboch


You're not living in a contested state or next to one. I do. I see
lots of McCain television commercials you do not. All McCain does is
attack-attack-attack. Dirty.


I live *in * the state to which you refer, and I find your assertions
full
of crap.



You're looking inward again.


All of the commercials John H sees, Harry and I see too.

Harry, what do you think about Obama bankrupting the coal industry and
putting all of those union coal miners out of work?

Boater November 3rd 08 12:47 PM

Makin my vote count
 
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 06:14:17 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

McCain is running the dirtiest campaign since Nixon's CREEP. That
is not the fault of Obama or his ability to raise campaign funds.

You keep saying that, yet many of your contemporaries, like Chris
Mathews, are expressing amazement that McCain didn't get down and
dirty with Obama, particularly on the Rev. Wright issue.

No, McCain didn't run a particularly dirty campaign. Some of his
supporters in isolated areas did some stupid things, but so did
Obama's. Neither have leashes on everyone.

You have the habit and style of repeating things over and over
until they become facts in your mind. So do many of the third
string pundits.

Eisboch


You're not living in a contested state or next to one. I do. I see
lots of McCain television commercials you do not. All McCain does is
attack-attack-attack. Dirty.

I live *in * the state to which you refer, and I find your
assertions full
of crap.



You're looking inward again.


All of the commercials John H sees, Harry and I see too.

Harry, what do you think about Obama bankrupting the coal industry and
putting all of those union coal miners out of work?



Is that what the corporate bankruptcy filings say?

Jim November 3rd 08 01:02 PM

Makin my vote count
 
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 06:14:17 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

McCain is running the dirtiest campaign since Nixon's CREEP. That
is not the fault of Obama or his ability to raise campaign funds.

You keep saying that, yet many of your contemporaries, like Chris
Mathews, are expressing amazement that McCain didn't get down and
dirty with Obama, particularly on the Rev. Wright issue.

No, McCain didn't run a particularly dirty campaign. Some of his
supporters in isolated areas did some stupid things, but so did
Obama's. Neither have leashes on everyone.

You have the habit and style of repeating things over and over
until they become facts in your mind. So do many of the third
string pundits.

Eisboch


You're not living in a contested state or next to one. I do. I see
lots of McCain television commercials you do not. All McCain does is
attack-attack-attack. Dirty.

I live *in * the state to which you refer, and I find your
assertions full
of crap.



You're looking inward again.


All of the commercials John H sees, Harry and I see too.

Harry, what do you think about Obama bankrupting the coal industry and
putting all of those union coal miners out of work?


Does "that one" really have visions of breaking unions? well, I guess if
he is bent on doing it, he can make it happen. That would be a major
"CHANGE"


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