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As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...





--
http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6

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On Sep 29, 1:47*pm, A Real Boater wrote:
As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...

--http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6

Well, that's what Pelosi gets for making it political right from day
one to the last speech before the vote. This falls right in the lap of
Dodd, Frank, and Obama who took more money from Freddie and Fannie
than any other Congressman, save one and closely followed by Kerry.
Even though the MSM has decided not to note the facts like they did
with Enron, which was nothing compared to this, but this was dems so
silence. If the dem leadership who caused this mess had just taken
responsibility for not listening to Bush and McCain in the first
place, we might be in a better positition.

There is no way we should bail out banks that worked with Obama and
Acorn to give loans to illegals and others who did not deserve, and
had no intention of paying them...

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On Sep 29, 2:00*pm, A Real Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 29, 1:47 pm, A Real Boater wrote:
As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...

--http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6

Well, that's what Pelosi gets for making it political right from day
one to the last speech before the vote. This falls right in the lap of
Dodd, Frank, and Obama who took more money from Freddie and Fannie
than any other Congressman, save one and closely followed by Kerry.
Even though the MSM has decided not to note the facts like they did
with Enron, which was nothing compared to this, but this was dems so
silence. If the dem leadership who caused this mess had just taken
responsibility for not listening to Bush and McCain in the first
place, we might be in a better positition.

There is no way we should bail out banks that worked with Obama and
Acorn to give loans to illegals and others who did not deserve, and
had no intention of paying them...

The idiot speaketh...

What's the source of your "talking points," by the way? Reich-wing radio?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I knew you would just poo poo the post, as you always do when faced
with facts... forget it Harry, everyone knows if you say it, it's a
lie, so I am out...

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On Sep 29, 1:55 pm, wrote:
On Sep 29, 1:47 pm, A Real Boater wrote:

As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...

--http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6

Well, that's what Pelosi gets for making it political right from day
one to the last speech before the vote. This falls right in the lap of
Dodd, Frank, and Obama who took more money from Freddie and Fannie
than any other Congressman, save one and closely followed by Kerry.
Even though the MSM has decided not to note the facts like they did
with Enron, which was nothing compared to this, but this was dems so
silence. If the dem leadership who caused this mess had just taken
responsibility for not listening to Bush and McCain in the first
place, we might be in a better positition.

There is no way we should bail out banks that worked with Obama and
Acorn to give loans to illegals and others who did not deserve, and
had no intention of paying them...

Lets be realistic. 30% of the value of the stock market is not in real
estate so even if it falls 30% it will soon come back up to probably
90%. Of the roughly 10% that is involved in real estate, how much
value will that real estate actually lose? I'd guess 30%. This tells
me that 30% of 10% (maybe up to 20%) is in the range of 3%-6% loss of
value in stocks, not a 30% loss.

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On Sep 29, 1:55*pm, wrote:
On Sep 29, 1:47*pm, A Real Boater wrote:

As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...

--http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6

Well, that's what Pelosi gets for making it political right from day
one to the last speech before the vote. This falls right in the lap of
Dodd, Frank, and Obama who took more money from Freddie and Fannie
than any other Congressman, save one and closely followed by Kerry.
Even though the MSM has decided not to note the facts like they did
with Enron, which was nothing compared to this, but this was dems so
silence. If the dem leadership who caused this mess had just taken
responsibility for not listening to Bush and McCain in the first
place, we might be in a better positition.

There is no way we should bail out banks that worked with Obama and
Acorn to give loans to illegals and others who did not deserve, and
had no intention of paying them...

Please ignore the stupidity, AND the stupid.

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On Sep 29, 2:11*pm, A Real Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 29, 2:00 pm, A Real Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 29, 1:47 pm, A Real Boater wrote:
As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...
--http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6
Well, that's what Pelosi gets for making it political right from day
one to the last speech before the vote. This falls right in the lap of
Dodd, Frank, and Obama who took more money from Freddie and Fannie
than any other Congressman, save one and closely followed by Kerry.
Even though the MSM has decided not to note the facts like they did
with Enron, which was nothing compared to this, but this was dems so
silence. If the dem leadership who caused this mess had just taken
responsibility for not listening to Bush and McCain in the first
place, we might be in a better positition.
There is no way we should bail out banks that worked with Obama and
Acorn to give loans to illegals and others who did not deserve, and
had no intention of paying them...
The idiot speaketh...

What's the source of your "talking points," by the way? Reich-wing radio?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I knew you would just poo poo the post, as you always do when faced
with facts... forget it Harry, everyone knows if you say it, it's a
lie, so I am out...

I've not seen one post from you on any political issue that indicates
you have understanding or knowledge of anything more complicated than
the source of your next meal. Your drool about Dodd, Frank, and Obama,
above, is just another example of this.

The bill under consideration was a proposal of the Bush administration,
modified by the Republican and Democratic Congressional leadership to
make it a bit more palatable.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Maybe that's because this isn't a politics newsgroup, idiot.

Blah, blah, blah...
 

The majority party did not get enough votes to pass it.. The rest of
my post is fact, look up who took money from Freddie and Fannie, see
Obama is number 2.. Instead of piping the party line. Fact is, no one
trusts Pelosi and the most corrupt congress in history...

Blah, blah, blah...
 

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On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:02:52 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Sep 29, 2:00*pm, A Real Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 29, 1:47 pm, A Real Boater wrote:
As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...

--http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6

Well, that's what Pelosi gets for making it political right from day
one to the last speech before the vote. This falls right in the lap of
Dodd, Frank, and Obama who took more money from Freddie and Fannie
than any other Congressman, save one and closely followed by Kerry.
Even though the MSM has decided not to note the facts like they did
with Enron, which was nothing compared to this, but this was dems so
silence. If the dem leadership who caused this mess had just taken
responsibility for not listening to Bush and McCain in the first
place, we might be in a better positition.

There is no way we should bail out banks that worked with Obama and
Acorn to give loans to illegals and others who did not deserve, and
had no intention of paying them...

The idiot speaketh...

What's the source of your "talking points," by the way? Reich-wing radio?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I knew you would just poo poo the post, as you always do when faced
with facts... forget it Harry, everyone knows if you say it, it's a
lie, so I am out...

It's too late to be "out". You already responded to him, douchenozzle.

Blah, blah, blah...
 

On Sep 29, 2:25*pm, A Real Boater wrote:
wrote:
The majority party did not get enough votes to pass it.. The rest of
my post is fact, look up who took money from Freddie and Fannie, see
Obama is number 2.. Instead of piping the party line. Fact is, no one
trusts Pelosi and the most corrupt congress in history...

Idiot. Until last month, McCain's campaign manager's company was sucking
on the Freddie/Fannie teat, and taking down more a month than you earn
in a year.

And Obama took more than all but one congressman, but you are not
capable of honest debate so you will have to continue this with your
sockpuppets;)

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On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:47:05 -0400, A Real Boater
wrote:

As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...

Good for them. Somebody's got some guts.
BTW, 40% of the Dems voted against it too.
You a Wall Street guy?

--Vic

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On Sep 29, 2:54*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:02:52 -0700 (PDT),





wrote:
On Sep 29, 2:00*pm, A Real Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 29, 1:47 pm, A Real Boater wrote:
As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...

--http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6

Well, that's what Pelosi gets for making it political right from day
one to the last speech before the vote. This falls right in the lap of
Dodd, Frank, and Obama who took more money from Freddie and Fannie
than any other Congressman, save one and closely followed by Kerry.
Even though the MSM has decided not to note the facts like they did
with Enron, which was nothing compared to this, but this was dems so
silence. If the dem leadership who caused this mess had just taken
responsibility for not listening to Bush and McCain in the first
place, we might be in a better positition.

There is no way we should bail out banks that worked with Obama and
Acorn to give loans to illegals and others who did not deserve, and
had no intention of paying them...

The idiot speaketh...

What's the source of your "talking points," by the way? Reich-wing radio?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I knew you would just poo poo the post, as you always do when faced
with facts... forget it Harry, everyone knows if you say it, it's a
lie, so I am out...

It's too late to be "out". You already responded to him, douchenozzle.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Talk to me when you come out from under your desk.

Blah, blah, blah...
 

Blah, blah, blah...
 

On Sep 29, 3:08*pm, A Real Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 29, 2:25 pm, A Real Boater wrote:
wrote:
The majority party did not get enough votes to pass it.. The rest of
my post is fact, look up who took money from Freddie and Fannie, see
Obama is number 2.. Instead of piping the party line. Fact is, no one
trusts Pelosi and the most corrupt congress in history...
Idiot. Until last month, McCain's campaign manager's company was sucking
on the Freddie/Fannie teat, and taking down more a month than you earn
in a year.

And Obama took more than all but one congressman, but you are not
capable of honest debate so you will have to continue this with your
sockpuppets;)

Drool on, d.f.

--

Check the facts, liar... Hey, at least you have Salty behind you, but
he has less credibility here than you do so.. you got nuttin'.

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:47:05 -0400, A Real Boater
wrote:

As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...

Good for them. Somebody's got some guts.
BTW, 40% of the Dems voted against it too.
You a Wall Street guy?

--Vic




There was an agreement among the Democratic and Republican House
leadership that each party would provide approximately one-half the
votes necessary to pass the Bill. The Dems lived up to the agreement.
Sixty seven percent of the Republicans welshed. The Republicans did not
live up to the agreement of their party leadership.

My concern is not with Wall Street, but with the flow of credit to Main
Street. The credit system, the one that supports all businesses in this
country, is close to a shut down.

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On Sep 29, 1:55*pm, wrote:
On Sep 29, 1:47*pm, A Real Boater wrote:

As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...

--http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6

Well, that's what Pelosi gets for making it political right from day
one to the last speech before the vote. This falls right in the lap of
Dodd, Frank, and Obama who took more money from Freddie and Fannie
than any other Congressman, save one and closely followed by Kerry.
Even though the MSM has decided not to note the facts like they did
with Enron, which was nothing compared to this, but this was dems so
silence. If the dem leadership who caused this mess had just taken
responsibility for not listening to Bush and McCain in the first
place, we might be in a better positition.

There is no way we should bail out banks that worked with Obama and
Acorn to give loans to illegals and others who did not deserve, and
had no intention of paying them...

Twit, the republican platform of de-regulation is what left the door
open. Used to be most borrowers needed 10% in cold hard cash to buy a
house. Not very many peope walked away for that investment.

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On Sep 29, 1:47*pm, A Real Boater wrote:
As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...

--http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6

The Dems control the House and could have passed it on their own if
they truly thought it was the best thing for the Country. 90 some
Dems voted against it.

Blah, blah, blah...
 

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JimH wrote:
On Sep 29, 1:47 pm, A Real Boater wrote:
As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...

--http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6

The Dems control the House and could have passed it on their own if
they truly thought it was the best thing for the Country. 90 some
Dems voted against it.



There was an agreement from both parties that each would put up about
half the votes needed for the bill to pass. The Republicans welshed. Two
thirds of the Democratic majority voted for the bill.

The Bush Administration didn't have the political clout to sell its own
bill to its own party.

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On Sep 29, 3:19*pm, wrote:
On Sep 29, 1:55*pm, wrote:





On Sep 29, 1:47*pm, A Real Boater wrote:

As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...

--http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6

Well, that's what Pelosi gets for making it political right from day
one to the last speech before the vote. This falls right in the lap of
Dodd, Frank, and Obama who took more money from Freddie and Fannie
than any other Congressman, save one and closely followed by Kerry.
Even though the MSM has decided not to note the facts like they did
with Enron, which was nothing compared to this, but this was dems so
silence. If the dem leadership who caused this mess had just taken
responsibility for not listening to Bush and McCain in the first
place, we might be in a better positition.

There is no way we should bail out banks that worked with Obama and
Acorn to give loans to illegals and others who did not deserve, and
had no intention of paying them...

Twit, the republican platform of de-regulation is what left the door
open. *Used to be most borrowers needed 10% in cold hard cash to buy a
house. *Not very many peope walked away for that investment.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Didn't really expect name calling from you, but so be it.. Like I said
before, you have had a hard on for me for a while, guess it's what I
should expect..

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On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:14:28 -0400, A Real Boater
wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:47:05 -0400, A Real Boater
wrote:

As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...

Good for them. Somebody's got some guts.
BTW, 40% of the Dems voted against it too.
You a Wall Street guy?

--Vic




There was an agreement among the Democratic and Republican House
leadership that each party would provide approximately one-half the
votes necessary to pass the Bill. The Dems lived up to the agreement.
Sixty seven percent of the Republicans welshed. The Republicans did not
live up to the agreement of their party leadership.

Parties often don't follow their leadership when important principles
are at stake. The Rep leaders couldn't deliver their promise, and the
Dems only garnered 60% of their members.

My concern is not with Wall Street, but with the flow of credit to Main
Street. The credit system, the one that supports all businesses in this
country, is close to a shut down.

Because Paulson and the other Wall Street jokers says so?
Don't worry. Everything is going to be all right.
But fill up your larders just in case.

--Vic

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:14:28 -0400, A Real Boater
wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:47:05 -0400, A Real Boater
wrote:

As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...
Good for them. Somebody's got some guts.
BTW, 40% of the Dems voted against it too.
You a Wall Street guy?

--Vic



There was an agreement among the Democratic and Republican House
leadership that each party would provide approximately one-half the
votes necessary to pass the Bill. The Dems lived up to the agreement.
Sixty seven percent of the Republicans welshed. The Republicans did not
live up to the agreement of their party leadership.

Parties often don't follow their leadership when important principles
are at stake. The Rep leaders couldn't deliver their promise, and the
Dems only garnered 60% of their members.

My concern is not with Wall Street, but with the flow of credit to Main
Street. The credit system, the one that supports all businesses in this
country, is close to a shut down.

Because Paulson and the other Wall Street jokers says so?
Don't worry. Everything is going to be all right.
But fill up your larders just in case.

--Vic


Interestingly, on the gun boards, the word is to "fill your pantry and
buy more ammo."

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On Sep 29, 3:27*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:14:28 -0400, A Real Boater
wrote:





Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:47:05 -0400, A Real Boater
wrote:

As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...

Good for them. *Somebody's got some guts.
BTW, 40% of the Dems voted against it too.
You a Wall Street guy?

--Vic

There was an agreement among the Democratic and Republican House
leadership that each party would provide approximately one-half the
votes necessary to pass the Bill. The Dems lived up to the agreement.
Sixty seven percent of the Republicans welshed. The Republicans did not
live up to the agreement of their party leadership.

Parties often don't follow their leadership when important principles
are at stake. *The Rep leaders couldn't deliver their promise, and the
Dems only garnered 60% of their members.

My concern is not with Wall Street, but with the flow of credit to Main
Street. The credit system, the one that supports all businesses in this
country, is close to a shut down.

Because Paulson and the other Wall Street jokers says so?
Don't worry. *Everything is going to be all right.
But fill up your larders just in case.

--Vic- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Looks like we need to leave them to their one sided blather.. Opinions
are not allowed here, only ideology. But I can't get back after James
Gang or folks like Wayne will be all over me.... so I guess I just sit
back and take the name calling.. Oh well..

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On Sep 29, 3:26*pm, A Real Boater wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Sep 29, 1:47 pm, A Real Boater wrote:
As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...

--http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6

The Dems control the House and could have passed it on their own if
they truly thought it was the best thing for the Country. *90 some
Dems voted against it.

There was an agreement from both parties that each would put up about
half the votes needed for the bill to pass. The Republicans welshed. Two
thirds of the Democratic majority voted for the bill.

The Bush Administration didn't have the political clout to sell its own
bill to its own party.

You are echoing the reason this Country is in real
trouble.........partisanship. The market was holding at around -570
until Pelosi and her whining gang started to turn it into a food
fight. From that point on the sell off went crazy.

There is enough blame to go around on both sides. The Congress needs
to do what we voted them into office for and get this fixed.

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JimH wrote:
On Sep 29, 3:26 pm, A Real Boater wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Sep 29, 1:47 pm, A Real Boater wrote:
As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...
--http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6
The Dems control the House and could have passed it on their own if
they truly thought it was the best thing for the Country. 90 some
Dems voted against it.
There was an agreement from both parties that each would put up about
half the votes needed for the bill to pass. The Republicans welshed. Two
thirds of the Democratic majority voted for the bill.

The Bush Administration didn't have the political clout to sell its own
bill to its own party.

You are echoing the reason this Country is in real
trouble.........partisanship. The market was holding at around -570
until Pelosi and her whining gang started to turn it into a food
fight. From that point on the sell off went crazy.

There is enough blame to go around on both sides. The Congress needs
to do what we voted them into office for and get this fixed.


Looks like the House will try again on Wednesday, after Rosh Hashanah.


--
http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6

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"A Real Boater" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Sep 29, 1:47 pm, A Real Boater wrote:
As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...

--http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6

Well, that's what Pelosi gets for making it political right from day
one to the last speech before the vote. This falls right in the lap of
Dodd, Frank, and Obama who took more money from Freddie and Fannie
than any other Congressman, save one and closely followed by Kerry.
Even though the MSM has decided not to note the facts like they did
with Enron, which was nothing compared to this, but this was dems so
silence. If the dem leadership who caused this mess had just taken
responsibility for not listening to Bush and McCain in the first
place, we might be in a better positition.

There is no way we should bail out banks that worked with Obama and
Acorn to give loans to illegals and others who did not deserve, and
had no intention of paying them...


The idiot speaketh...

What's the source of your "talking points," by the way? Reich-wing radio?

Yes, you are an idiot. Maybe it was a bad bill. 20% of any profits
dedicated to low income loans, etc. Added by Dems. And seems as if the
Dems also defeated the bill. They control Congress. 40% of the Dem's voted
NO on the bill. They did not count? You are a partisan idiot.

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On Sep 29, 3:38*pm, A Real Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 29, 3:27 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:14:28 -0400, A Real Boater
wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:47:05 -0400, A Real Boater
wrote:
As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...
Good for them. *Somebody's got some guts.
BTW, 40% of the Dems voted against it too.
You a Wall Street guy?
--Vic
There was an agreement among the Democratic and Republican House
leadership that each party would provide approximately one-half the
votes necessary to pass the Bill. The Dems lived up to the agreement.
Sixty seven percent of the Republicans welshed. The Republicans did not
live up to the agreement of their party leadership.
Parties often don't follow their leadership when important principles
are at stake. *The Rep leaders couldn't deliver their promise, and the
Dems only garnered 60% of their members.

My concern is not with Wall Street, but with the flow of credit to Main
Street. The credit system, the one that supports all businesses in this
country, is close to a shut down.
Because Paulson and the other Wall Street jokers says so?
Don't worry. *Everything is going to be all right.
But fill up your larders just in case.

--Vic- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Looks like we need to leave them to their one sided blather.. Opinions
are not allowed here, only ideology. But I can't get back after James
Gang or folks like Wayne will be all over me.... so I guess I just sit
back and take the name calling.. Oh well..

The problem is, your political opinions are based upon schitt.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

As opposed to yours that are based on party talking points.. Fact is,
Obama took more money from Fannie and Freddie than any other
congressman, save one. If facts are "schitt" so be it, but it don't
change them... Look it up for yourself....

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"A Real Boater" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Sep 29, 2:00 pm, A Real Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 29, 1:47 pm, A Real Boater wrote:
As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...
--http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6
Well, that's what Pelosi gets for making it political right from day
one to the last speech before the vote. This falls right in the lap of
Dodd, Frank, and Obama who took more money from Freddie and Fannie
than any other Congressman, save one and closely followed by Kerry.
Even though the MSM has decided not to note the facts like they did
with Enron, which was nothing compared to this, but this was dems so
silence. If the dem leadership who caused this mess had just taken
responsibility for not listening to Bush and McCain in the first
place, we might be in a better positition.
There is no way we should bail out banks that worked with Obama and
Acorn to give loans to illegals and others who did not deserve, and
had no intention of paying them...
The idiot speaketh...

What's the source of your "talking points," by the way? Reich-wing
radio?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I knew you would just poo poo the post, as you always do when faced
with facts... forget it Harry, everyone knows if you say it, it's a
lie, so I am out...


I've not seen one post from you on any political issue that indicates you
have understanding or knowledge of anything more complicated than the
source of your next meal. Your drool about Dodd, Frank, and Obama, above,
is just another example of this.

The bill under consideration was a proposal of the Bush administration,
modified by the Republican and Democratic Congressional leadership to make
it a bit more palatable.



Maybe it was changed to be better for the Dem's? Maybe for the lobbyists?
We have had too many bills rammed through as cures that were worse than the
disease. Maybe the 40% of the Dem's and 67% of the Republicans were doing
what they thought was correct. Not being lambs led to slaughter.

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On Sep 29, 3:43*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"A Real Boater" wrote in ...





wrote:
On Sep 29, 1:47 pm, A Real Boater wrote:
As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...

--http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6

Well, that's what Pelosi gets for making it political right from day
one to the last speech before the vote. This falls right in the lap of
Dodd, Frank, and Obama who took more money from Freddie and Fannie
than any other Congressman, save one and closely followed by Kerry.
Even though the MSM has decided not to note the facts like they did
with Enron, which was nothing compared to this, but this was dems so
silence. If the dem leadership who caused this mess had just taken
responsibility for not listening to Bush and McCain in the first
place, we might be in a better positition.

There is no way we should bail out banks that worked with Obama and
Acorn to give loans to illegals and others who did not deserve, and
had no intention of paying them...

The idiot speaketh...

What's the source of your "talking points," by the way? Reich-wing radio?

Yes, you are an idiot. *Maybe it was a bad bill. *20% of any profits
dedicated to low income loans, etc. *Added by Dems. *And seems as if the
Dems also defeated the bill. *They control Congress. *40% of the Dem's voted
NO on the bill. *They did not count? *You are a partisan idiot.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Several of them have shown up here. Name calling and pointing fingers,
instead of facing facts.. Guess it's just easier to sit under a desk
and call names....

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Calif Bill wrote:
"A Real Boater" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Sep 29, 2:00 pm, A Real Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 29, 1:47 pm, A Real Boater wrote:
As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...
--http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6
Well, that's what Pelosi gets for making it political right from day
one to the last speech before the vote. This falls right in the lap of
Dodd, Frank, and Obama who took more money from Freddie and Fannie
than any other Congressman, save one and closely followed by Kerry.
Even though the MSM has decided not to note the facts like they did
with Enron, which was nothing compared to this, but this was dems so
silence. If the dem leadership who caused this mess had just taken
responsibility for not listening to Bush and McCain in the first
place, we might be in a better positition.
There is no way we should bail out banks that worked with Obama and
Acorn to give loans to illegals and others who did not deserve, and
had no intention of paying them...
The idiot speaketh...

What's the source of your "talking points," by the way? Reich-wing
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I knew you would just poo poo the post, as you always do when faced
with facts... forget it Harry, everyone knows if you say it, it's a
lie, so I am out...

I've not seen one post from you on any political issue that indicates you
have understanding or knowledge of anything more complicated than the
source of your next meal. Your drool about Dodd, Frank, and Obama, above,
is just another example of this.

The bill under consideration was a proposal of the Bush administration,
modified by the Republican and Democratic Congressional leadership to make
it a bit more palatable.



Maybe it was changed to be better for the Dem's? Maybe for the lobbyists?
We have had too many bills rammed through as cures that were worse than the
disease. Maybe the 40% of the Dem's and 67% of the Republicans were doing
what they thought was correct. Not being lambs led to slaughter.




Maybe you don't know what you are talking about. Wait...there's no maybe
involved.


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http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6

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wrote in message
...
On Sep 29, 1:55 pm, wrote:
On Sep 29, 1:47 pm, A Real Boater wrote:

As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...

--http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6

Well, that's what Pelosi gets for making it political right from day
one to the last speech before the vote. This falls right in the lap of
Dodd, Frank, and Obama who took more money from Freddie and Fannie
than any other Congressman, save one and closely followed by Kerry.
Even though the MSM has decided not to note the facts like they did
with Enron, which was nothing compared to this, but this was dems so
silence. If the dem leadership who caused this mess had just taken
responsibility for not listening to Bush and McCain in the first
place, we might be in a better positition.

There is no way we should bail out banks that worked with Obama and
Acorn to give loans to illegals and others who did not deserve, and
had no intention of paying them...

Twit, the republican platform of de-regulation is what left the door
open. Used to be most borrowers needed 10% in cold hard cash to buy a
house. Not very many peope walked away for that investment.

Actually was the Dem's that pushed ACORN and the others to force bad loans
on banks. And that happened in the last Administration. Basically saying F
& F would buy any loan.

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"A Real Boater" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
On Sep 29, 1:47 pm, A Real Boater wrote:
As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...

--http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6

The Dems control the House and could have passed it on their own if
they truly thought it was the best thing for the Country. 90 some
Dems voted against it.



There was an agreement from both parties that each would put up about half
the votes needed for the bill to pass. The Republicans welshed. Two thirds
of the Democratic majority voted for the bill.

The Bush Administration didn't have the political clout to sell its own
bill to its own party.

Maybe for once, the Congress Critters put policy ahead of party. Good.

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"A Real Boater" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"A Real Boater" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Sep 29, 2:00 pm, A Real Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 29, 1:47 pm, A Real Boater wrote:
As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...
--http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6
Well, that's what Pelosi gets for making it political right from day
one to the last speech before the vote. This falls right in the lap
of
Dodd, Frank, and Obama who took more money from Freddie and Fannie
than any other Congressman, save one and closely followed by Kerry.
Even though the MSM has decided not to note the facts like they did
with Enron, which was nothing compared to this, but this was dems so
silence. If the dem leadership who caused this mess had just taken
responsibility for not listening to Bush and McCain in the first
place, we might be in a better positition.
There is no way we should bail out banks that worked with Obama and
Acorn to give loans to illegals and others who did not deserve, and
had no intention of paying them...
The idiot speaketh...

What's the source of your "talking points," by the way? Reich-wing
radio?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
I knew you would just poo poo the post, as you always do when faced
with facts... forget it Harry, everyone knows if you say it, it's a
lie, so I am out...

I've not seen one post from you on any political issue that indicates
you have understanding or knowledge of anything more complicated than
the source of your next meal. Your drool about Dodd, Frank, and Obama,
above, is just another example of this.

The bill under consideration was a proposal of the Bush administration,
modified by the Republican and Democratic Congressional leadership to
make it a bit more palatable.



Maybe it was changed to be better for the Dem's? Maybe for the
lobbyists? We have had too many bills rammed through as cures that were
worse than the disease. Maybe the 40% of the Dem's and 67% of the
Republicans were doing what they thought was correct. Not being lambs
led to slaughter.


Maybe you don't know what you are talking about. Wait...there's no maybe
involved.


--
http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6

I know more about what I talk about then you apparently do. You just follow
some party talking point. We have been screwed by partisanship for years.
It is refreshing when some stand up for the constituents as opposed to a
party line. The bill will pass, but maybe as a better bill.