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On Sep 29, 3:19 pm, wrote:
On Sep 29, 1:55 pm, wrote:





On Sep 29, 1:47 pm, A Real Boater wrote:

As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...

--http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6

Well, that's what Pelosi gets for making it political right from day
one to the last speech before the vote. This falls right in the lap of
Dodd, Frank, and Obama who took more money from Freddie and Fannie
than any other Congressman, save one and closely followed by Kerry.
Even though the MSM has decided not to note the facts like they did
with Enron, which was nothing compared to this, but this was dems so
silence. If the dem leadership who caused this mess had just taken
responsibility for not listening to Bush and McCain in the first
place, we might be in a better positition.

There is no way we should bail out banks that worked with Obama and
Acorn to give loans to illegals and others who did not deserve, and
had no intention of paying them...

Twit, the republican platform of de-regulation is what left the door
open. Used to be most borrowers needed 10% in cold hard cash to buy a
house. Not very many peope walked away for that investment.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -
Didn't really expect name calling from you, but so be it.. Like I said
before, you have had a hard on for me for a while, guess it's what I
should expect..

I could care less about you dude. Your misperception on how we got here is
another story. How much money various senators took in campaign
contributions only factor in if you also review the voting records. Bush
and McCain are how we got here.

On Sep 29, 6:36*pm, "jamesgangnc" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Sep 29, 3:19 pm, wrote:





On Sep 29, 1:55 pm, wrote:

On Sep 29, 1:47 pm, A Real Boater wrote:

As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...

--http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6

Well, that's what Pelosi gets for making it political right from day
one to the last speech before the vote. This falls right in the lap of
Dodd, Frank, and Obama who took more money from Freddie and Fannie
than any other Congressman, save one and closely followed by Kerry.
Even though the MSM has decided not to note the facts like they did
with Enron, which was nothing compared to this, but this was dems so
silence. If the dem leadership who caused this mess had just taken
responsibility for not listening to Bush and McCain in the first
place, we might be in a better positition.

There is no way we should bail out banks that worked with Obama and
Acorn to give loans to illegals and others who did not deserve, and
had no intention of paying them...

Twit, the republican platform of de-regulation is what left the door
open. Used to be most borrowers needed 10% in cold hard cash to buy a
house. Not very many peope walked away for that investment.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -
Didn't really expect name calling from you, but so be it.. Like I said
before, you have had a hard on for me for a while, guess it's what I
should expect..

I could care less about you dude.

So, you open all debates with name calling? This is a pattern with you
and my posts, but forget that.

*Your misperception on how we got here is
another story. *How much money various senators took in campaign
contributions only factor in if you also review the voting records. *Bush
and McCain are how we got here.

Show me which votes you are talking about, and let's stick to ones
where Obama opposed McCain, and not just present?

jamesgangnc wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Sep 29, 3:19 pm, wrote:
On Sep 29, 1:55 pm, wrote:





On Sep 29, 1:47 pm, A Real Boater wrote:
As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...
--http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6
Well, that's what Pelosi gets for making it political right from day
one to the last speech before the vote. This falls right in the lap of
Dodd, Frank, and Obama who took more money from Freddie and Fannie
than any other Congressman, save one and closely followed by Kerry.
Even though the MSM has decided not to note the facts like they did
with Enron, which was nothing compared to this, but this was dems so
silence. If the dem leadership who caused this mess had just taken
responsibility for not listening to Bush and McCain in the first
place, we might be in a better positition.
There is no way we should bail out banks that worked with Obama and
Acorn to give loans to illegals and others who did not deserve, and
had no intention of paying them...
Twit, the republican platform of de-regulation is what left the door
open. Used to be most borrowers needed 10% in cold hard cash to buy a
house. Not very many peope walked away for that investment.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -
Didn't really expect name calling from you, but so be it.. Like I said
before, you have had a hard on for me for a while, guess it's what I
should expect..

I could care less about you dude. Your misperception on how we got here is
another story. How much money various senators took in campaign
contributions only factor in if you also review the voting records. Bush
and McCain are how we got here.



Carter pushed the ball with his foot and Clinton gave the ball a swift
kick. Bush 43 tried to stop the ball from rolling, see the Congressional
record.

wrote in message
...
On Sep 29, 1:55 pm, wrote:
On Sep 29, 1:47 pm, A Real Boater wrote:

As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...

--http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6

Well, that's what Pelosi gets for making it political right from day
one to the last speech before the vote. This falls right in the lap of
Dodd, Frank, and Obama who took more money from Freddie and Fannie
than any other Congressman, save one and closely followed by Kerry.
Even though the MSM has decided not to note the facts like they did
with Enron, which was nothing compared to this, but this was dems so
silence. If the dem leadership who caused this mess had just taken
responsibility for not listening to Bush and McCain in the first
place, we might be in a better positition.

There is no way we should bail out banks that worked with Obama and
Acorn to give loans to illegals and others who did not deserve, and
had no intention of paying them...

Twit, the republican platform of de-regulation is what left the door
open. Used to be most borrowers needed 10% in cold hard cash to buy a
house. Not very many peope walked away for that investment.

Actually was the Dem's that pushed ACORN and the others to force bad loans
on banks. And that happened in the last Administration. Basically saying F
& F would buy any loan.

wrote:
On Sep 29, 1:55 pm, wrote:
On Sep 29, 1:47 pm, A Real Boater wrote:

As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...
--http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6
Well, that's what Pelosi gets for making it political right from day
one to the last speech before the vote. This falls right in the lap of
Dodd, Frank, and Obama who took more money from Freddie and Fannie
than any other Congressman, save one and closely followed by Kerry.
Even though the MSM has decided not to note the facts like they did
with Enron, which was nothing compared to this, but this was dems so
silence. If the dem leadership who caused this mess had just taken
responsibility for not listening to Bush and McCain in the first
place, we might be in a better positition.

There is no way we should bail out banks that worked with Obama and
Acorn to give loans to illegals and others who did not deserve, and
had no intention of paying them...

Twit, the republican platform of de-regulation is what left the door
open. Used to be most borrowers needed 10% in cold hard cash to buy a
house. Not very many peope walked away for that investment.

Who pushed the 0% down loans?

Who pushed the no documentation loans?

BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 29, 1:55 pm, wrote:
On Sep 29, 1:47 pm, A Real Boater wrote:

As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...
--http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6
Well, that's what Pelosi gets for making it political right from day
one to the last speech before the vote. This falls right in the lap of
Dodd, Frank, and Obama who took more money from Freddie and Fannie
than any other Congressman, save one and closely followed by Kerry.
Even though the MSM has decided not to note the facts like they did
with Enron, which was nothing compared to this, but this was dems so
silence. If the dem leadership who caused this mess had just taken
responsibility for not listening to Bush and McCain in the first
place, we might be in a better positition.

There is no way we should bail out banks that worked with Obama and
Acorn to give loans to illegals and others who did not deserve, and
had no intention of paying them...

Twit, the republican platform of de-regulation is what left the door
open. Used to be most borrowers needed 10% in cold hard cash to buy a
house. Not very many peope walked away for that investment.

Who pushed the 0% down loans?


The VA?

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:20:18 -0400, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Sep 29, 1:55 pm, wrote:
On Sep 29, 1:47 pm, A Real Boater wrote:

As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...
--http://tinyurl.com/4q88t6
Well, that's what Pelosi gets for making it political right from day
one to the last speech before the vote. This falls right in the lap of
Dodd, Frank, and Obama who took more money from Freddie and Fannie
than any other Congressman, save one and closely followed by Kerry.
Even though the MSM has decided not to note the facts like they did
with Enron, which was nothing compared to this, but this was dems so
silence. If the dem leadership who caused this mess had just taken
responsibility for not listening to Bush and McCain in the first
place, we might be in a better positition.

There is no way we should bail out banks that worked with Obama and
Acorn to give loans to illegals and others who did not deserve, and
had no intention of paying them...

Twit, the republican platform of de-regulation is what left the door
open. Used to be most borrowers needed 10% in cold hard cash to buy a
house. Not very many peope walked away for that investment.

Who pushed the 0% down loans?

Who pushed the no documentation loans?

Who stood by and watched?

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:47:05 -0400, A Real Boater
wrote:

As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...

Good for them. Somebody's got some guts.
BTW, 40% of the Dems voted against it too.
You a Wall Street guy?

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:47:05 -0400, A Real Boater
wrote:

As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...

Good for them. Somebody's got some guts.
BTW, 40% of the Dems voted against it too.
You a Wall Street guy?

--Vic




There was an agreement among the Democratic and Republican House
leadership that each party would provide approximately one-half the
votes necessary to pass the Bill. The Dems lived up to the agreement.
Sixty seven percent of the Republicans welshed. The Republicans did not
live up to the agreement of their party leadership.

My concern is not with Wall Street, but with the flow of credit to Main
Street. The credit system, the one that supports all businesses in this
country, is close to a shut down.

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:14:28 -0400, A Real Boater
wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:47:05 -0400, A Real Boater
wrote:

As the GOP House members vote down the bailout bill...

Good for them. Somebody's got some guts.
BTW, 40% of the Dems voted against it too.
You a Wall Street guy?

--Vic




There was an agreement among the Democratic and Republican House
leadership that each party would provide approximately one-half the
votes necessary to pass the Bill. The Dems lived up to the agreement.
Sixty seven percent of the Republicans welshed. The Republicans did not
live up to the agreement of their party leadership.

Parties often don't follow their leadership when important principles
are at stake. The Rep leaders couldn't deliver their promise, and the
Dems only garnered 60% of their members.

My concern is not with Wall Street, but with the flow of credit to Main
Street. The credit system, the one that supports all businesses in this
country, is close to a shut down.

Because Paulson and the other Wall Street jokers says so?
Don't worry. Everything is going to be all right.
But fill up your larders just in case.

--Vic