Recommendation for oil change pump
 

I'm not sure if you guys still talk about boats or not. ;)
I have of 04 Bayliner 185 with a 190hp engine. It's about time to
think about putting her away for my first season and I'm wonder what
the best options are for pulling the oil out. A friend of mine had the
dealer install a quickdrain on the bottom of the engine with a hose
that drains the oil out the back. I was afraid to ask what the dealer
charges for this since they charge $400 just for the oil/gear lube
change.
If my best bet is the pump, what type should I get? I've seen some
that work of a drill, some that are hand pumped etc. Can anyone
recommend one to me? Also, is there somewhere cheaper than the dealer
to get it from?

-robert

Recommendation for oil change pump
 

Robert M. Gary wrote:
I'm not sure if you guys still talk about boats or not. ;)
I have of 04 Bayliner 185 with a 190hp engine. It's about time to
think about putting her away for my first season and I'm wonder what
the best options are for pulling the oil out. A friend of mine had the
dealer install a quickdrain on the bottom of the engine with a hose
that drains the oil out the back. I was afraid to ask what the dealer
charges for this since they charge $400 just for the oil/gear lube
change.
If my best bet is the pump, what type should I get? I've seen some
that work of a drill, some that are hand pumped etc. Can anyone
recommend one to me? Also, is there somewhere cheaper than the dealer
to get it from?

-robert


The sureflo system is a pretty good one. There might be better ones but
I'm not familiar with them.
http://www.overtons.com/modperl/prod...s _oil_change

Recommendation for oil change pump
 

On Sep 21, 9:39*am, jim wrote:
Robert M. Gary wrote:


The sureflo system is a pretty good one. There might be better ones but
I'm not familiar with them.http://www.overtons.com/modperl/prod...rowse&aID=24A&...

I noticed that Walmart has a hand pump that they said is for the
purpose for $7. What would be the advantage to the more expensive
systems. Its seems like all I need is a pump to pull the oil out into
my used tank.

-robert

Recommendation for oil change pump
 

On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 20:48:18 -0700 (PDT), "Robert M. Gary"
wrote:

On Sep 21, 9:39*am, jim wrote:
Robert M. Gary wrote:


The sureflo system is a pretty good one. There might be better ones but
I'm not familiar with them.http://www.overtons.com/modperl/prod...rowse&aID=24A&...

I noticed that Walmart has a hand pump that they said is for the
purpose for $7. What would be the advantage to the more expensive
systems. Its seems like all I need is a pump to pull the oil out into
my used tank.

-robert

I used a hand pump for a while with one of my old sail boats.
Fortunately it was a small engine with a small sump because it was a
slow, hot, messy process. Something like the Shureflo or Jabsco makes
fairly easy work of it and will easily pay for itself compared to
professional service prices.

Recommendation for oil change pump
 

On Sep 22, 6:37*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
used a hand pump for a while with one of my old sail boats.
Fortunately it was a small engine with a small sump because it was a
slow, hot, messy process. *Something like the Shureflo or Jabsco makes
fairly easy work of it and will easily pay for itself compared to
professional service prices.

What do you think about the tubes that connect to the drain pan? It
looks like you just run the tube through the bilge drain and turn the
valve. It otherwise just lies curled up below the engine.

-robert

Recommendation for oil change pump
 

On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:55:15 -0700 (PDT), "Robert M. Gary"
wrote:

On Sep 22, 6:37*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
used a hand pump for a while with one of my old sail boats.
Fortunately it was a small engine with a small sump because it was a
slow, hot, messy process. *Something like the Shureflo or Jabsco makes
fairly easy work of it and will easily pay for itself compared to
professional service prices.

What do you think about the tubes that connect to the drain pan? It
looks like you just run the tube through the bilge drain and turn the
valve. It otherwise just lies curled up below the engine.

The tubing is there to suck the oil out through the dip stick
aperature.

Recommendation for oil change pump
 

On Sep 24, 5:46*am, Wayne.B wrote:

The tubing is there to suck the oil out through the dip stick
aperature.

No, a friend of mine had the drain plug on his engine replaced with a
tube. The tube is pulled through the bilge drain and there is a valve
on the end. When you open the valve the oil all runs out. I was just
curious about the pros/cons of this vs. sucking it out the drip stick.

-Robert

Recommendation for oil change pump
 

On Sep 24, 5:46*am, Wayne.B wrote:

The tubing is there to suck the oil out through the dip stick
aperature.

Here is a picture...
http://tinyurl.com/3wdmnc

-Robert

Recommendation for oil change pump
 

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 08:04:50 -0700 (PDT), "Robert M. Gary"
wrote:

On Sep 24, 5:46*am, Wayne.B wrote:

The tubing is there to suck the oil out through the dip stick
aperature.

Here is a picture...
http://tinyurl.com/3wdmnc

-Robert

Interesting, looks like it should work but I have no experience. My
only concern is that it adds a source of potential engine failure if
something goes wrong with the tubing or engine fitting.

Recommendation for oil change pump
 

Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 08:04:50 -0700 (PDT), "Robert M. Gary"
wrote:

On Sep 24, 5:46 am, Wayne.B wrote:

The tubing is there to suck the oil out through the dip stick
aperature.
Here is a picture...
http://tinyurl.com/3wdmnc

-Robert

Interesting, looks like it should work but I have no experience. My
only concern is that it adds a source of potential engine failure if
something goes wrong with the tubing or engine fitting.


Also requires that you snake the hose through the drain plug opening.
Might be tough on some boats.

Recommendation for oil change pump
 

On Sep 24, 9:47*am, jim wrote:

Also requires that you snake the hose through the drain plug opening.
Might be tough on some boats.- Hide quoted text -

On my friend's the fish hook on the end of the bilge plug attaches to
the end of the oil change hose. So if you just pull on the plug (after
unscrewing it) eventually the oil drain tube will follow. I just
called the dealer to ask about this. They said the down side is that
its very, very hard to install (access to the oil drain plug is
difficult with such a large engine) and I might need to put a larger
bilge drain on to accommodate the diameter of the oil drain tube. I'm
not sure if that involves drilling or just replacing the plug and
bezel.

-Robert

Recommendation for oil change pump
 

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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On Sep 24, 9:47 am, jim wrote:

Also requires that you snake the hose through the drain plug opening.
Might be tough on some boats.- Hide quoted text -

On my friend's the fish hook on the end of the bilge plug attaches to
the end of the oil change hose. So if you just pull on the plug (after
unscrewing it) eventually the oil drain tube will follow. I just
called the dealer to ask about this. They said the down side is that
its very, very hard to install (access to the oil drain plug is
difficult with such a large engine) and I might need to put a larger
bilge drain on to accommodate the diameter of the oil drain tube. I'm
not sure if that involves drilling or just replacing the plug and
bezel.

-Robert

My boat has had the tube on both this engine and the previous 351W Ford
engine. I really like them. I can get to the transom plug hole easily on
my boat, and just slide the hose on the hole. Remove the screw on cap and
let the oil drain in to a catch container. Only problem I ever had was the
cap was not tightened well and the oil leaked into the bilge. Found the oil
on the visual check before starting. The new engines hose has a clip that
attaches to the end and I hang the hose end higher than the pan, so no leak
even if the cap is off. Installing one could be a bugger if not much access
to the pan. Mine actually comes off the side of the pan, and may be a
custom install from KEM Equipment.