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Gone four days and back to 853 messages. Over 300 from one individual.

Had a great time at Virginia Beach. Saw lots of boats. Will post pictures
of some when I get the chance.

Air conditioner kept popping the circuit breaker when the temp was
hovering
around 95 yesterday.

Anyone know anything about air conditioners?
--
John H.


Seems to me that when you first had this problem we talked about undersized
extension cords, undersized house wiring, defective breaker in RV, and low
voltage. As I recall, your AC started working and the issue was dropped.
Someone said head pressure will increase as ambient temp increases. That's
true. So now you have at least 5 potential reasons why you are popping the
breaker in the RV. The reason the breaker popped at the campground may be
different than why it popped at your house, but let's assume the reason is
the same.

I think I have laid out the situation properly. If not, correct me.

I know there are at least 4 or 5 guys here that would be able to put you on
the right track.

Would you like some help to resolve the problem?



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"John H." wrote in message
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Gone four days and back to 853 messages. Over 300 from one individual.

Had a great time at Virginia Beach. Saw lots of boats. Will post pictures
of some when I get the chance.

Air conditioner kept popping the circuit breaker when the temp was
hovering
around 95 yesterday.

Anyone know anything about air conditioners?
--
John H.


Seems to me that when you first had this problem we talked about undersized
extension cords, undersized house wiring, defective breaker in RV, and low
voltage. As I recall, your AC started working and the issue was dropped.
Someone said head pressure will increase as ambient temp increases. That's
true. So now you have at least 5 potential reasons why you are popping the
breaker in the RV. The reason the breaker popped at the campground may be
different than why it popped at your house, but let's assume the reason is
the same.

I think I have laid out the situation properly. If not, correct me.

I know there are at least 4 or 5 guys here that would be able to put you on
the right track.

Would you like some help to resolve the problem?


Does is have anything to do with Shredder and his evil henchmen?

If it does, I'm your guy.
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On Sep 15, 6:47*pm, John H. wrote:
Gone four days and back to 853 messages. Over 300 from one individual.

Had a great time at Virginia Beach. Saw lots of boats. Will post pictures
of some when I get the chance.

Air conditioner kept popping the circuit breaker when the temp was hovering
around 95 yesterday.

Anyone know anything about air conditioners?
--
John H.


Check for low freon, it may be freezing the coils up.
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Don White wrote:
"A Boater" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:13:48 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Sep 15, 5:47 pm, John H. wrote:
Gone four days and back to 853 messages. Over 300 from one
individual.

Had a great time at Virginia Beach. Saw lots of boats. Will post
pictures
of some when I get the chance.

Air conditioner kept popping the circuit breaker when the temp was
hovering
around 95 yesterday.

Anyone know anything about air conditioners?
--
John H.
John, I take it you're talking about your auto air conditioner?

What make and model?
No, Tim, it's one of these buggers: http://tinyurl.com/69jflb

The one on the trailer. Once the outside temp cooled down, in the
evening,
the AC ran fine. But during the hottest part of the day, the thing
would
trip the circuit breaker no matter how we adjusted the settings. I
found a
web site, so I'll do a little research.
--
John H.
I think your warranty would be expected to cover that. I wouldn't
start monkeying with anything until that warranty period is up.

Let me see here. You're outside, inside a metal sardine can, in a
trailer park full of other metal sardine cans. You're all hooked up to
the trailer park's wiring, and you all have your air conditioning on.
The voltage is dropping.
Hmmm.


That's a possibility.
A good multimeter would be a handy test tool in that case.
Better tell John how to use one to test the voltage at an A/C outlet.



I would recommend that Herring wet two fingernails and stick them in the
outlet. If he gets a woody, it's 110.

It was very hot one day this past weekend, in the mid 90s. Typically there
are voltage drops in the utility wiring when that happens. I know that for
several reasons, one of which being the rather substantial UPS I have for
electronic appliances. When the power drops a bit, it switches over to the
batteries, even if it is just for a couple of seconds.

Herring may have some other problem, but I would guess a minor drop in
line voltage.

I thought our boy was a former Army engineer or something like that.
Doesn't he know any science, or is he one of those who believes in
cretinism, er, creationism?


I think he was more into blowing up & destroying things rather than fixing
or building them.
Can you imagine being out in a rice paddy close to the Viet Cong and knowing
John was your close support artillery?
Talk about being between a rock and a hard place!


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Don White wrote:
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Don White wrote:
"A Boater" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:13:48 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Sep 15, 5:47 pm, John H. wrote:
Gone four days and back to 853 messages. Over 300 from one
individual.

Had a great time at Virginia Beach. Saw lots of boats. Will post
pictures
of some when I get the chance.

Air conditioner kept popping the circuit breaker when the temp was
hovering
around 95 yesterday.

Anyone know anything about air conditioners?
--
John H.
John, I take it you're talking about your auto air conditioner?

What make and model?
No, Tim, it's one of these buggers: http://tinyurl.com/69jflb

The one on the trailer. Once the outside temp cooled down, in the
evening,
the AC ran fine. But during the hottest part of the day, the thing
would
trip the circuit breaker no matter how we adjusted the settings. I
found a
web site, so I'll do a little research.
--
John H.
I think your warranty would be expected to cover that. I wouldn't
start monkeying with anything until that warranty period is up.
Let me see here. You're outside, inside a metal sardine can, in a
trailer park full of other metal sardine cans. You're all hooked up to
the trailer park's wiring, and you all have your air conditioning on.
The voltage is dropping.
Hmmm.

That's a possibility.
A good multimeter would be a handy test tool in that case.
Better tell John how to use one to test the voltage at an A/C outlet.


I would recommend that Herring wet two fingernails and stick them in the
outlet. If he gets a woody, it's 110.

It was very hot one day this past weekend, in the mid 90s. Typically there
are voltage drops in the utility wiring when that happens. I know that for
several reasons, one of which being the rather substantial UPS I have for
electronic appliances. When the power drops a bit, it switches over to the
batteries, even if it is just for a couple of seconds.

Herring may have some other problem, but I would guess a minor drop in
line voltage.

I thought our boy was a former Army engineer or something like that.
Doesn't he know any science, or is he one of those who believes in
cretinism, er, creationism?


I think he was more into blowing up & destroying things rather than fixing
or building them.
Can you imagine being out in a rice paddy close to the Viet Cong and knowing
John was your close support artillery?
Talk about being between a rock and a hard place!



I actually thought about that once, a couple of years ago, when it
became apparent our boy Herring was a low-brain-outputter.


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Don White wrote:
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Don White wrote:
"A Boater" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:13:48 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Sep 15, 5:47 pm, John H. wrote:
Gone four days and back to 853 messages. Over 300 from one
individual.

Had a great time at Virginia Beach. Saw lots of boats. Will post
pictures
of some when I get the chance.

Air conditioner kept popping the circuit breaker when the temp was
hovering
around 95 yesterday.

Anyone know anything about air conditioners?
--
John H.
John, I take it you're talking about your auto air conditioner?

What make and model?
No, Tim, it's one of these buggers: http://tinyurl.com/69jflb

The one on the trailer. Once the outside temp cooled down, in the
evening,
the AC ran fine. But during the hottest part of the day, the thing
would
trip the circuit breaker no matter how we adjusted the settings. I
found a
web site, so I'll do a little research.
--
John H.
I think your warranty would be expected to cover that. I wouldn't
start monkeying with anything until that warranty period is up.
Let me see here. You're outside, inside a metal sardine can, in a
trailer park full of other metal sardine cans. You're all hooked up to
the trailer park's wiring, and you all have your air conditioning on.
The voltage is dropping.
Hmmm.

That's a possibility.
A good multimeter would be a handy test tool in that case.
Better tell John how to use one to test the voltage at an A/C outlet.


I would recommend that Herring wet two fingernails and stick them in the
outlet. If he gets a woody, it's 110.

It was very hot one day this past weekend, in the mid 90s. Typically there
are voltage drops in the utility wiring when that happens. I know that for
several reasons, one of which being the rather substantial UPS I have for
electronic appliances. When the power drops a bit, it switches over to the
batteries, even if it is just for a couple of seconds.

Herring may have some other problem, but I would guess a minor drop in
line voltage.

I thought our boy was a former Army engineer or something like that.
Doesn't he know any science, or is he one of those who believes in
cretinism, er, creationism?


I think he was more into blowing up & destroying things rather than fixing
or building them.
Can you imagine being out in a rice paddy close to the Viet Cong and knowing
John was your close support artillery?
Talk about being between a rock and a hard place!


Oh well... later donnie plonk
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Rowdy Mouse Racing wrote:
Don White wrote:
"A Boater" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"A Boater" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:13:48 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Sep 15, 5:47 pm, John H. wrote:
Gone four days and back to 853 messages. Over 300 from one
individual.

Had a great time at Virginia Beach. Saw lots of boats. Will
post pictures
of some when I get the chance.

Air conditioner kept popping the circuit breaker when the temp
was hovering
around 95 yesterday.

Anyone know anything about air conditioners?
--
John H.
John, I take it you're talking about your auto air conditioner?

What make and model?
No, Tim, it's one of these buggers: http://tinyurl.com/69jflb

The one on the trailer. Once the outside temp cooled down, in the
evening,
the AC ran fine. But during the hottest part of the day, the
thing would
trip the circuit breaker no matter how we adjusted the settings.
I found a
web site, so I'll do a little research.
--
John H.
I think your warranty would be expected to cover that. I wouldn't
start monkeying with anything until that warranty period is up.
Let me see here. You're outside, inside a metal sardine can, in a
trailer park full of other metal sardine cans. You're all hooked up
to the trailer park's wiring, and you all have your air
conditioning on. The voltage is dropping.
Hmmm.

That's a possibility.
A good multimeter would be a handy test tool in that case.
Better tell John how to use one to test the voltage at an A/C outlet.

I would recommend that Herring wet two fingernails and stick them in
the outlet. If he gets a woody, it's 110.

It was very hot one day this past weekend, in the mid 90s. Typically
there are voltage drops in the utility wiring when that happens. I
know that for several reasons, one of which being the rather
substantial UPS I have for electronic appliances. When the power
drops a bit, it switches over to the batteries, even if it is just
for a couple of seconds.

Herring may have some other problem, but I would guess a minor drop
in line voltage.

I thought our boy was a former Army engineer or something like that.
Doesn't he know any science, or is he one of those who believes in
cretinism, er, creationism?


I think he was more into blowing up & destroying things rather than
fixing or building them.
Can you imagine being out in a rice paddy close to the Viet Cong and
knowing John was your close support artillery?
Talk about being between a rock and a hard place!

Oh well... later donnie plonk



Ohmigod! Don's been *plonked* by JustWaitaLoogy!

The horror of it.

Don...will you require therapy for this?

:)


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On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:37:56 -0400, DK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:13:48 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Sep 15, 5:47 pm, John H. wrote:
Gone four days and back to 853 messages. Over 300 from one individual.

Had a great time at Virginia Beach. Saw lots of boats. Will post
pictures
of some when I get the chance.

Air conditioner kept popping the circuit breaker when the temp was
hovering
around 95 yesterday.

Anyone know anything about air conditioners?
--
John H.
John, I take it you're talking about your auto air conditioner?

What make and model?

No, Tim, it's one of these buggers: http://tinyurl.com/69jflb

The one on the trailer. Once the outside temp cooled down, in the
evening,
the AC ran fine. But during the hottest part of the day, the thing would
trip the circuit breaker no matter how we adjusted the settings. I found
a
web site, so I'll do a little research.


Call the dealer. It's got to be still covered under a warantee.


I did. In fact, I stopped by the dealer on the way back. He said if the
system showed no problems when they ran it, and the outflow was twenty
degrees cooler than the inflow, then they'd do nothing more. Needless to
say, I got a little hot.


--
John H.


John,

Here's what little I know about air conditioners in RV's and TT's.

On hot days, the head pressure will be highest in the compressor. If it
cycles off, then tries to start again before the head pressure bleeds off,
it can trip the breaker due to excess current draw. This is why many air
conditioners have a label indicating that you should wait 3 min. or so
before trying to restart. Some AC units, particularly central air systems
have a time delay built in to prevent the compressor from trying to restart
too soon.

If it was as hot as you indicated, the lack of insulation in your TT could
lead to the AC unit trying to restart too soon.

If the problem is due to a general voltage droop in the RV park you are in,
you can solve that with one of these:
http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/r...autoformer.htm

Eisboch



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Temp does have something to do with it. At higher outside temps ac runs
higher pressures. Takes more current to start the compressor. AC
copmpressors have to start under a load so they need a lot of current
initially. First make sure you have the correct circuit breaker. Then
replace if it's old it cause when they get old they blow at lower than
rated. Voltage brownout will do it as well. Check and tighten all the
connections. None of that works call the service guy cause you're
probably not qualified to go any deeper.



Exactly. The problem with these rigs when used in travel trailers is the
poor insulation of the trailer itself. On hot days the temperature can rise
back up over the thermostat setpoint before the head pressure bleeds off.

But, I am willing to be his problem was low RV park voltage.

Eisboch


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On Sep 15, 6:47 pm, John H. wrote:
Gone four days and back to 853 messages. Over 300 from one individual.

Had a great time at Virginia Beach. Saw lots of boats. Will post pictures
of some when I get the chance.

Air conditioner kept popping the circuit breaker when the temp was
hovering
around 95 yesterday.

Anyone know anything about air conditioners?
--
John H.


Check for low freon, it may be freezing the coils up.
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He would have little or no air flow if that happened.

Eisboch


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