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[email protected] September 14th 08 04:11 PM

Life without electricity
 
Obviously, not being able to get out on my boat I feel free to sit
here and rant so here goes.......
What is with all these people who think it is a disaster to not have
electricity for a few days. Sure, if you live in an apartment it may
be bad with no water or lighting but you can manage. If you have your
own home it is easy, even in summer heat.
Many people I know tell me all about how much fuel they have for their
generators and how much they can power with it and ask me about my
generator and I pause for a few minutes and say, "Well, I got about
a gallon of kerosene for the lamps". Life without AC wont kill ya.
Those clear things in the side of your house called windows OPEN (what
a concept). Sure it isnt comfy but your living in the semi-tropics,
deal with it and stop being wimpy. Before the storm you shoulda
filled containers with drinkin water and filled your tubs with water
to flush the toilets with. BTW, storms make lotsa rain that fills
containers set outside too, use that water. As far as washing
clothes, you'd be amazed how clean you can get stuff in a 5 gallon
bucket of water and some soap and then use a clothes line outside ya
idjits. For cooking, fire up the grill, cook a bunch of stuff and eat
it for a day or two. By the time you use up your frozen stuff you can
eat stuff from cans without cooking it.
We been there and done it so y'all can just stop whining.

Don White September 14th 08 05:07 PM

Life without electricity
 

wrote in message
...
Obviously, not being able to get out on my boat I feel free to sit
here and rant so here goes.......
What is with all these people who think it is a disaster to not have
electricity for a few days. Sure, if you live in an apartment it may
be bad with no water or lighting but you can manage. If you have your
own home it is easy, even in summer heat.
Many people I know tell me all about how much fuel they have for their
generators and how much they can power with it and ask me about my
generator and I pause for a few minutes and say, "Well, I got about
a gallon of kerosene for the lamps". Life without AC wont kill ya.
Those clear things in the side of your house called windows OPEN (what
a concept). Sure it isnt comfy but your living in the semi-tropics,
deal with it and stop being wimpy. Before the storm you shoulda
filled containers with drinkin water and filled your tubs with water
to flush the toilets with. BTW, storms make lotsa rain that fills
containers set outside too, use that water. As far as washing
clothes, you'd be amazed how clean you can get stuff in a 5 gallon
bucket of water and some soap and then use a clothes line outside ya
idjits. For cooking, fire up the grill, cook a bunch of stuff and eat
it for a day or two. By the time you use up your frozen stuff you can
eat stuff from cans without cooking it.
We been there and done it so y'all can just stop whining.


I went without electricity for 6 days & nights back at the end of Sept 2003
thanks to Hurricane Juan.
Those cold showers and meals cooked on the barbecue and coleman stove got
tiresome...... not to mention sitting around at night (1900 hrs on) with
just lanterns & candles.



Dave Brown September 14th 08 06:47 PM

Life without electricity
 
Don White wrote:

I went without electricity for 6 days & nights back at the end of Sept 2003
thanks to Hurricane Juan.
Those cold showers and meals cooked on the barbecue and coleman stove got
tiresome...... not to mention sitting around at night (1900 hrs on) with
just lanterns & candles.


And then there was that Ice Storm in eastern Canada back in 1998...

http://brownsmarina.com/ice-story.html

--
Regards,
Dave Brown
Brown's Marina Ltd
http://brownsmarina.com/

[email protected] September 14th 08 07:47 PM

Life without electricity
 
wrote:
Obviously, not being able to get out on my boat I feel free to sit
here and rant so here goes.......
What is with all these people who think it is a disaster to not have
electricity for a few days. Sure, if you live in an apartment it may
be bad with no water or lighting but you can manage. If you have your
own home it is easy, even in summer heat.
Many people I know tell me all about how much fuel they have for their
generators and how much they can power with it and ask me about my
generator and I pause for a few minutes and say, "Well, I got about
a gallon of kerosene for the lamps". Life without AC wont kill ya.
Those clear things in the side of your house called windows OPEN (what
a concept). Sure it isnt comfy but your living in the semi-tropics,
deal with it and stop being wimpy. Before the storm you shoulda
filled containers with drinkin water and filled your tubs with water
to flush the toilets with. BTW, storms make lotsa rain that fills
containers set outside too, use that water. As far as washing
clothes, you'd be amazed how clean you can get stuff in a 5 gallon
bucket of water and some soap and then use a clothes line outside ya
idjits. For cooking, fire up the grill, cook a bunch of stuff and eat
it for a day or two. By the time you use up your frozen stuff you can
eat stuff from cans without cooking it.
We been there and done it so y'all can just stop whining.


My Grand other and us lived without electricity. I had no idea there was
such a thing as tv. We had a radio powered by a large battery. The
antenna was as long cotton wrapped wire that circled the ceiling.
We got up at dawn and had supper right before dark about the time to
start the kerosene lamps, in winter. In summer we didn't use the lampps
hardly at all. I didn't like drawing all the ater from the well or when
it was dry carrying two two gallon buckets about half mile each way from
a spring. I didn't much care for having to keep the fire going under the
the pot that was used for everything from washing, starching, soap
making, rendering or jelly making either. The women liked it even less.
Chicken(real chicken) that I had to wring their necks, does taste better
cookd on a wood stove in lard. We were poor I guess but didn't know it
as noone elsee had much either. They shot or raised most everything we
ate except flour and the like. Once a month or maybe twice a walk to
town barefootfor an orange crush and a moon pie in front of the Home
Store was a real treat. carrying fifty p0und sacks of flour or a five
gallon bucket of lard back wasn't much fun though.
Mom and Dad lived most of the time in the "city". I hated it and spent
as much time as I could back at Grand Ma's.

TJ[_3_] September 15th 08 02:26 AM

Life without electricity
 
Dave Brown wrote:
Don White wrote:

I went without electricity for 6 days & nights back at the end of Sept
2003 thanks to Hurricane Juan.
Those cold showers and meals cooked on the barbecue and coleman stove
got tiresome...... not to mention sitting around at night (1900 hrs
on) with just lanterns & candles.


And then there was that Ice Storm in eastern Canada back in 1998...

http://brownsmarina.com/ice-story.html

That same storm also hit northern New York...

http://www.northcountrypublicradio.o.../icestorm.html

TJ

Tim September 15th 08 02:44 AM

Life without electricity
 
On Sep 14, 10:11*am, wrote:
Obviously, not being able to get out on my boat I feel free to sit
here and rant so here goes.......
What is with all these people who think it is a disaster to not have
electricity for a few days. *Sure, if you live in an apartment it may
be bad with no water or lighting but you can manage. *If you have your
own home it is easy, even in summer heat.
Many people I know tell me all about how much fuel they have for their
generators and how much they can power with it and ask me about my
generator and I pause for a few minutes and say, * "Well, I got about
a gallon of kerosene for the lamps". *Life without AC wont kill ya.
Those clear things in the side of your house called windows OPEN (what
a concept). *Sure it isnt comfy but your living in the semi-tropics,
deal with it and stop being wimpy. *Before the storm you shoulda
filled containers with drinking water and filled your tubs with water
to flush the toilets with. *BTW, storms make lotsa rain that fills
containers *set outside too, use that water. *As far as washing
clothes, you'd be amazed how clean you can get stuff in a 5 gallon
bucket of water and some soap and then use a clothes line outside ya
idjits. *For cooking, fire up the grill, cook a bunch of stuff and eat
it for a day or two. *By the time you use up your frozen stuff you can
eat stuff from cans without cooking it.
We been there and done it so y'all can just stop whining.


Power outages here are rare, but do happen 4 years ago on Memorial day
weekend a storm came though that just about took out most of the trees
in my town. power was out for 3 days. I have an Onan 12K gen on a 4
cyl diesel Perkins. It doesn't get used hardly at all, but it took
care of our needs as well as my next door neighbor for 4 days. 'Tis
best to have and not need, than to need and not have.

[email protected] September 15th 08 02:54 PM

Life without electricity
 
On Sep 15, 3:17 am, Rowdy Mouse Racing
wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:
Don White wrote:


I went without electricity for 6 days & nights back at the end of Sept
2003 thanks to Hurricane Juan.
Those cold showers and meals cooked on the barbecue and coleman stove
got tiresome...... not to mention sitting around at night (1900 hrs
on) with just lanterns & candles.


And then there was that Ice Storm in eastern Canada back in 1998...


http://brownsmarina.com/ice-story.html


Yeah, a bunch of years ago we had a storm that took out our power in the
winter.. We had a brandy new baby in the house, no choice but to get a
generator. It's not a big one, but it will run the water stove, tv and
fridge for a while, then we would switch over to the furnace for a while
and cycle that all day.


Babies did not exist before generators? You dont take the baby
camping?
Drudge has a headline "HELL in HOUSTON", no power or water. I used to
live in Houston and it was hell WITH power and water. This may be an
improvement.

Vic Smith September 15th 08 03:05 PM

Life without electricity
 
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 06:54:46 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Sep 15, 3:17 am, Rowdy Mouse Racing
wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:
Don White wrote:


I went without electricity for 6 days & nights back at the end of Sept
2003 thanks to Hurricane Juan.
Those cold showers and meals cooked on the barbecue and coleman stove
got tiresome...... not to mention sitting around at night (1900 hrs
on) with just lanterns & candles.


And then there was that Ice Storm in eastern Canada back in 1998...


http://brownsmarina.com/ice-story.html

Yeah, a bunch of years ago we had a storm that took out our power in the
winter.. We had a brandy new baby in the house, no choice but to get a
generator. It's not a big one, but it will run the water stove, tv and
fridge for a while, then we would switch over to the furnace for a while
and cycle that all day.


Babies did not exist before generators? You dont take the baby
camping?
Drudge has a headline "HELL in HOUSTON", no power or water. I used to
live in Houston and it was hell WITH power and water. This may be an
improvement.


Do you visit Wyoming only during the summer?
A new baby up north in the winter needs some warmth.
So do old folks.

--Vic


[email protected] September 15th 08 03:08 PM

Life without electricity
 
On Sep 15, 9:54*am, wrote:
On Sep 15, 3:17 am, Rowdy Mouse Racing
wrote:





Dave Brown wrote:
Don White wrote:


I went without electricity for 6 days & nights back at the end of Sept
2003 thanks to Hurricane Juan.
Those cold showers and meals cooked on the barbecue and coleman stove
got tiresome...... not to mention sitting around at night (1900 hrs
on) with just lanterns & candles.


And then there was that Ice Storm in eastern Canada back in 1998...


http://brownsmarina.com/ice-story.html


Yeah, a bunch of years ago we had a storm that took out our power in the
winter.. We had a brandy new baby in the house, no choice but to get a
generator. It's not a big one, but it will run the water stove, tv and
fridge for a while, then we would switch over to the furnace for a while
and cycle that all day.


Babies did not exist before generators? *You dont take the baby
camping?
Drudge has a headline "HELL in HOUSTON", no power or water. *I used to
live in Houston and it was hell WITH power and water. *This may be an
improvement.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Uh, she was almost two months premature and had just been released
from the hospital with special needs that required power.. And yes,
babies do go camping, my oldest was camping at 6 weeks old, but that
birth had no complications.

For the record, she came through it fine, here is what she looks like
now;)
http://trip-reports.com/coppermine/d...158&fullsize=1
At the Wormfarm, Masters of Mini's racing yesterday...

A Boater September 15th 08 03:12 PM

Life without electricity
 
wrote:
On Sep 15, 3:17 am, Rowdy Mouse Racing
wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:
Don White wrote:
I went without electricity for 6 days & nights back at the end of Sept
2003 thanks to Hurricane Juan.
Those cold showers and meals cooked on the barbecue and coleman stove
got tiresome...... not to mention sitting around at night (1900 hrs
on) with just lanterns & candles.
And then there was that Ice Storm in eastern Canada back in 1998...
http://brownsmarina.com/ice-story.html
Yeah, a bunch of years ago we had a storm that took out our power in the
winter.. We had a brandy new baby in the house, no choice but to get a
generator. It's not a big one, but it will run the water stove, tv and
fridge for a while, then we would switch over to the furnace for a while
and cycle that all day.


Babies did not exist before generators? You dont take the baby
camping?
Drudge has a headline "HELL in HOUSTON", no power or water. I used to
live in Houston and it was hell WITH power and water. This may be an
improvement.



I realize you are a conservative republican and therefore don't give a
damn about anyone other than yourself, but...

....there are people who will die without access to electricity.

I won't list all the reasons why, but there are many people who fall
into the category.

Not that you would give a schitt about these folks.

[email protected] September 15th 08 04:51 PM

Life without electricity
 
On Sep 15, 10:08*am, wrote:
On Sep 15, 9:54*am, wrote:





On Sep 15, 3:17 am, Rowdy Mouse Racing
wrote:


Dave Brown wrote:
Don White wrote:


I went without electricity for 6 days & nights back at the end of Sept
2003 thanks to Hurricane Juan.
Those cold showers and meals cooked on the barbecue and coleman stove
got tiresome...... not to mention sitting around at night (1900 hrs
on) with just lanterns & candles.


And then there was that Ice Storm in eastern Canada back in 1998...


http://brownsmarina.com/ice-story.html


Yeah, a bunch of years ago we had a storm that took out our power in the
winter.. We had a brandy new baby in the house, no choice but to get a
generator. It's not a big one, but it will run the water stove, tv and
fridge for a while, then we would switch over to the furnace for a while
and cycle that all day.


Babies did not exist before generators? *You dont take the baby
camping?
Drudge has a headline "HELL in HOUSTON", no power or water. *I used to
live in Houston and it was hell WITH power and water. *This may be an
improvement.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Uh, she was almost two months premature and had just been released
from the hospital with special needs that required power.. And yes,
babies do go camping, my oldest was camping at 6 weeks old, but that
birth had no complications.

For the record, she came through it fine, here is what she looks like
now;)http://trip-reports.com/coppermine/d...158&fullsize=1
At the Wormfarm, Masters of Mini's racing yesterday...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Looking a tad on the soupy side!

[email protected] September 15th 08 05:00 PM

Life without electricity
 
On Sep 15, 11:51 am, wrote:
On Sep 15, 10:08 am, wrote:



On Sep 15, 9:54 am, wrote:


On Sep 15, 3:17 am, Rowdy Mouse Racing
wrote:


Dave Brown wrote:
Don White wrote:


I went without electricity for 6 days & nights back at the end of Sept
2003 thanks to Hurricane Juan.
Those cold showers and meals cooked on the barbecue and coleman stove
got tiresome...... not to mention sitting around at night (1900 hrs
on) with just lanterns & candles.


And then there was that Ice Storm in eastern Canada back in 1998...


http://brownsmarina.com/ice-story.html


Yeah, a bunch of years ago we had a storm that took out our power in the
winter.. We had a brandy new baby in the house, no choice but to get a
generator. It's not a big one, but it will run the water stove, tv and
fridge for a while, then we would switch over to the furnace for a while
and cycle that all day.


Babies did not exist before generators? You dont take the baby
camping?
Drudge has a headline "HELL in HOUSTON", no power or water. I used to
live in Houston and it was hell WITH power and water. This may be an
improvement.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Uh, she was almost two months premature and had just been released
from the hospital with special needs that required power.. And yes,
babies do go camping, my oldest was camping at 6 weeks old, but that
birth had no complications.


For the record, she came through it fine, here is what she looks like
now;)http://trip-reports.com/coppermine/d...158&fullsize=1
At the Wormfarm, Masters of Mini's racing yesterday...- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Looking a tad on the soupy side!


I admit there are people who really need electricity but most of us
would survive without it for a week. I am simply tired of whining by
able bodied people.
Premature infants are an exception but most infants do very well
camping
Yes, I lived in Wyoming and worked outside through winters.

HK September 15th 08 05:03 PM

Life without electricity
 
wrote:

I admit there are people who really need electricity but most of us
would survive without it for a week. I am simply tired of whining by
able bodied people.
Premature infants are an exception but most infants do very well
camping
Yes, I lived in Wyoming and worked outside through winters.



There are lots of people who "really need electricity" to survive, dumbo.

Why don't you stop whining about others? Hey...move to a survivalists'
compound in Wyoming...truck in your water and AA batteries.

[email protected] September 15th 08 05:07 PM

Life without electricity
 
On Sep 15, 11:51*am, wrote:
On Sep 15, 10:08*am, wrote:





On Sep 15, 9:54*am, wrote:


On Sep 15, 3:17 am, Rowdy Mouse Racing
wrote:


Dave Brown wrote:
Don White wrote:


I went without electricity for 6 days & nights back at the end of Sept
2003 thanks to Hurricane Juan.
Those cold showers and meals cooked on the barbecue and coleman stove
got tiresome...... not to mention sitting around at night (1900 hrs
on) with just lanterns & candles.


And then there was that Ice Storm in eastern Canada back in 1998....


http://brownsmarina.com/ice-story.html


Yeah, a bunch of years ago we had a storm that took out our power in the
winter.. We had a brandy new baby in the house, no choice but to get a
generator. It's not a big one, but it will run the water stove, tv and
fridge for a while, then we would switch over to the furnace for a while
and cycle that all day.


Babies did not exist before generators? *You dont take the baby
camping?
Drudge has a headline "HELL in HOUSTON", no power or water. *I used to
live in Houston and it was hell WITH power and water. *This may be an
improvement.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Uh, she was almost two months premature and had just been released
from the hospital with special needs that required power.. And yes,
babies do go camping, my oldest was camping at 6 weeks old, but that
birth had no complications.


For the record, she came through it fine, here is what she looks like
now;)http://trip-reports.com/coppermine/d...158&fullsize=1
At the Wormfarm, Masters of Mini's racing yesterday...- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Looking a tad on the soupy side!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


That's quite an understatement.. It was crazy, everybody looked like
that after the first moto;)

Michael Briggs September 16th 08 07:34 PM

Life without electricity
 
Have to agree with both sides here.

First. to those who wine about not having electricty for several days, its
not a god given right. There are many things you can do to ease the pain.
Have some supplies on hand for just an emergency. If you cant live without
it, by all means, go buy a generator. Dont wait till the storm hits to head
to the store and then complain that the store has run out. Be a good scout,
be prepared! For anyone who has to have electricty for them selves or a
loved one to live, If you dont have a backup of some kind, its your own
fault! Dont bitch and wine at me, others, the gov. that you dont have
elec.or that it is a hardship, if you didnt have enough forthought to be
prepared for the unlikely(read likely) event of a major storm, then sorry
about your luck! Its where people have to have some self accountability and
not depend or blame others.
For the most part, you dont need elec. to live, it just makes life easier.
You can buy a small inexpensive generator that will take care of most
things. A 2500 watt unit will heat your water tank(usually), Then pump the
water for a shower. Then run a hot plate, slow cooker, small microwave etc
to fix a hot meal. You dont need to have everything in a house on at once!
And to bring out the coleman stove to heat water for a bath etc. is kinda
lame when you can spend a couple bucks and buy a cheap gen set. But, you can
get by. I agree, a hot shower, hot meal and a little tv in the evening is
nice. So I bought a generator. It comes in handy. Still laugh when I hear
the neighbors complain that they couldnt take a shower for 2 or 3 days.
Second
In the heart of a big city, life is different. Apartment buildings with
little or no natrual ventilation can be a big problem. With no running water
for an extended time can cause big problems, you dont have the spring down
the road like ya do in the country. many places dont have much place to
store water for an extended time, just not big enough. A major power and
water outage in a big city can and does kill some people. Many people in the
big cities have never had any experience with country living and just dont
have a clue. But its not an exucuse for not trying to be prepared. But I
guess you will always have the stupid people factor to deal with too!

Done with my rant.
wrote in message ...
wrote:
Obviously, not being able to get out on my boat I feel free to sit
here and rant so here goes.......
What is with all these people who think it is a disaster to not have
electricity for a few days. Sure, if you live in an apartment it may
be bad with no water or lighting but you can manage. If you have your
own home it is easy, even in summer heat.
Many people I know tell me all about how much fuel they have for their
generators and how much they can power with it and ask me about my
generator and I pause for a few minutes and say, "Well, I got about
a gallon of kerosene for the lamps". Life without AC wont kill ya.
Those clear things in the side of your house called windows OPEN (what
a concept). Sure it isnt comfy but your living in the semi-tropics,
deal with it and stop being wimpy. Before the storm you shoulda
filled containers with drinkin water and filled your tubs with water
to flush the toilets with. BTW, storms make lotsa rain that fills
containers set outside too, use that water. As far as washing
clothes, you'd be amazed how clean you can get stuff in a 5 gallon
bucket of water and some soap and then use a clothes line outside ya
idjits. For cooking, fire up the grill, cook a bunch of stuff and eat
it for a day or two. By the time you use up your frozen stuff you can
eat stuff from cans without cooking it.
We been there and done it so y'all can just stop whining.


My Grand other and us lived without electricity. I had no idea there was
such a thing as tv. We had a radio powered by a large battery. The antenna
was as long cotton wrapped wire that circled the ceiling.
We got up at dawn and had supper right before dark about the time to start
the kerosene lamps, in winter. In summer we didn't use the lampps hardly
at all. I didn't like drawing all the ater from the well or when it was
dry carrying two two gallon buckets about half mile each way from a
spring. I didn't much care for having to keep the fire going under the the
pot that was used for everything from washing, starching, soap making,
rendering or jelly making either. The women liked it even less.
Chicken(real chicken) that I had to wring their necks, does taste better
cookd on a wood stove in lard. We were poor I guess but didn't know it as
noone elsee had much either. They shot or raised most everything we ate
except flour and the like. Once a month or maybe twice a walk to town
barefootfor an orange crush and a moon pie in front of the Home Store was
a real treat. carrying fifty p0und sacks of flour or a five gallon bucket
of lard back wasn't much fun though.
Mom and Dad lived most of the time in the "city". I hated it and spent as
much time as I could back at Grand Ma's.





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