I was supposed to go help with a sailboat race (cant sail cuz I messed
up my back) but cannot get any gas for the boat due to the shut down
refineries cuz a certain political faction won't allow more refineries
to be built thus putting 1/4 of our nations refining capacity at risk
in a naturall disaster like Ike. So, this IS about boating and my not
going boating due to idiocy of certain politicos.

On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:02:42 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

I was supposed to go help with a sailboat race (cant sail cuz I messed
up my back) but cannot get any gas for the boat due to the shut down
refineries cuz a certain political faction won't allow more refineries
to be built thus putting 1/4 of our nations refining capacity at risk
in a naturall disaster like Ike. So, this IS about boating and my not
going boating due to idiocy of certain politicos.

Are you really this stupid? There will be no refineries built as long
as the Oil Companies own the government. They don't want the supply
increased, because that would just erode prices and they would make
less money. Right now, they are making record profits every quarter.
Massive record profits. The last thing they want to do is have to
produce more gas for less money. Things are going exactly their way.
This is your much touted "free market" capitalism at it's best. You
wanted the government off the back of industry and you got it. This is
how it works. Don't like it? Then stop voting for it.

wrote:
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:02:42 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

I was supposed to go help with a sailboat race (cant sail cuz I messed
up my back) but cannot get any gas for the boat due to the shut down
refineries cuz a certain political faction won't allow more refineries
to be built thus putting 1/4 of our nations refining capacity at risk
in a naturall disaster like Ike. So, this IS about boating and my not
going boating due to idiocy of certain politicos.

Are you really this stupid? There will be no refineries built as long
as the Oil Companies own the government. They don't want the supply
increased, because that would just erode prices and they would make
less money. Right now, they are making record profits every quarter.
Massive record profits. The last thing they want to do is have to
produce more gas for less money. Things are going exactly their way.
This is your much touted "free market" capitalism at it's best. You
wanted the government off the back of industry and you got it. This is
how it works. Don't like it? Then stop voting for it.





I've seen about a dozen major news articles about how the refinery
owners themselves are the ones who chilled construction of new facilities.

The more O'Hara posts on things political, the more he reveals himself
as a political simpleton, fed his lines by reich-wing radio or faux news
or some lying crap outlet like that.

By the way, if you take the apostrophe out of O'Hara, you get Ohara.
Ohara is not that many letters removed from...Obama. :)

On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 08:39:55 -0400, hk wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:02:42 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

I was supposed to go help with a sailboat race (cant sail cuz I messed
up my back) but cannot get any gas for the boat due to the shut down
refineries cuz a certain political faction won't allow more refineries
to be built thus putting 1/4 of our nations refining capacity at risk
in a naturall disaster like Ike. So, this IS about boating and my not
going boating due to idiocy of certain politicos.

Are you really this stupid? There will be no refineries built as long
as the Oil Companies own the government. They don't want the supply
increased, because that would just erode prices and they would make
less money. Right now, they are making record profits every quarter.
Massive record profits. The last thing they want to do is have to
produce more gas for less money. Things are going exactly their way.
This is your much touted "free market" capitalism at it's best. You
wanted the government off the back of industry and you got it. This is
how it works. Don't like it? Then stop voting for it.





I've seen about a dozen major news articles about how the refinery
owners themselves are the ones who chilled construction of new facilities.

The more O'Hara posts on things political, the more he reveals himself
as a political simpleton, fed his lines by reich-wing radio or faux news
or some lying crap outlet like that.

By the way, if you take the apostrophe out of O'Hara, you get Ohara.
Ohara is not that many letters removed from...Obama. :)




Didn't you just write the quote below???


"Perhaps someday you'll post something interesting and informative
that, gasp, relates to boats."


What's good for the goose

On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:02:42 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

I was supposed to go help with a sailboat race (cant sail cuz I messed
up my back) but cannot get any gas for the boat due to the shut down
refineries cuz a certain political faction won't allow more refineries
to be built thus putting 1/4 of our nations refining capacity at risk
in a naturall disaster like Ike. So, this IS about boating and my not
going boating due to idiocy of certain politicos.

Send a check to Al Gore. He'll sell you some energy credits

On Sep 13, 10:55 am, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:02:42 -0700 (PDT),
penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of
rec.boats:

I was supposed to go help with a sailboat race (cant sail cuz I messed
up my back) but cannot get any gas for the boat due to the shut down
refineries cuz a certain political faction won't allow more refineries
to be built thus putting 1/4 of our nations refining capacity at risk
in a naturall disaster like Ike. So, this IS about boating and my not
going boating due to idiocy of certain politicos.

Another incredibly specious post.

Oil companies, themselves, have limited the available supply of fuel.
They aren't stupid, they are just greedy.... they've purposefully
drastically reduced the available refining capacity (supply), thence
driven prices sky high, and reaped record profits for their
shareholders.

Tell me again, what is their motivation to increase supply and
decrease profits? They are corporations, they aren't there to powder
your out-of-gas buns, they are there to line the pockets of
shareholders.

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats

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Several posts form people with no knowledge of the oil business. In
the past, we had independent refineries along with those owned by the
majors. However, regulations have caused the independents to no
longer be able to meet the requirements so now we only have major
refineries. Essentially, the govt has caused monopolization by
enacting onerous licensing and regulations. If one looks, he will
also find that refineries ae all operating at over their designed
capacity these days. Govt regs have caused us to become dependent on
monopolies.
In the past, the oil industry was much less a vertically integrated
monopoly but govt has driven it to bcome so.

On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:26:29 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Sep 13, 10:55 am, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:02:42 -0700 (PDT),
penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of
rec.boats:

I was supposed to go help with a sailboat race (cant sail cuz I messed
up my back) but cannot get any gas for the boat due to the shut down
refineries cuz a certain political faction won't allow more refineries
to be built thus putting 1/4 of our nations refining capacity at risk
in a naturall disaster like Ike. So, this IS about boating and my not
going boating due to idiocy of certain politicos.

Another incredibly specious post.

Oil companies, themselves, have limited the available supply of fuel.
They aren't stupid, they are just greedy.... they've purposefully
drastically reduced the available refining capacity (supply), thence
driven prices sky high, and reaped record profits for their
shareholders.

Tell me again, what is their motivation to increase supply and
decrease profits? They are corporations, they aren't there to powder
your out-of-gas buns, they are there to line the pockets of
shareholders.

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats

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Several posts form people with no knowledge of the oil business. In
the past, we had independent refineries along with those owned by the
majors. However, regulations have caused the independents to no
longer be able to meet the requirements so now we only have major
refineries. Essentially, the govt has caused monopolization by
enacting onerous licensing and regulations.

The BIG oil companies are literally writing that legislation, dopey.

If one looks, he will
also find that refineries ae all operating at over their designed
capacity these days. Govt regs have caused us to become dependent on
monopolies.
In the past, the oil industry was much less a vertically integrated
monopoly but govt has driven it to bcome so.

Once again, the BIG Oil Companies OWN the government.

wrote in message
...
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:26:29 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Sep 13, 10:55 am, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:02:42 -0700 (PDT),
penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of
rec.boats:

I was supposed to go help with a sailboat race (cant sail cuz I messed
up my back) but cannot get any gas for the boat due to the shut down
refineries cuz a certain political faction won't allow more refineries
to be built thus putting 1/4 of our nations refining capacity at risk
in a naturall disaster like Ike. So, this IS about boating and my not
going boating due to idiocy of certain politicos.

Another incredibly specious post.

Oil companies, themselves, have limited the available supply of fuel.
They aren't stupid, they are just greedy.... they've purposefully
drastically reduced the available refining capacity (supply), thence
driven prices sky high, and reaped record profits for their
shareholders.

Tell me again, what is their motivation to increase supply and
decrease profits? They are corporations, they aren't there to powder
your out-of-gas buns, they are there to line the pockets of
shareholders.

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats

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Several posts form people with no knowledge of the oil business. In
the past, we had independent refineries along with those owned by the
majors. However, regulations have caused the independents to no
longer be able to meet the requirements so now we only have major
refineries. Essentially, the govt has caused monopolization by
enacting onerous licensing and regulations.

The BIG oil companies are literally writing that legislation, dopey.

If one looks, he will
also find that refineries ae all operating at over their designed
capacity these days. Govt regs have caused us to become dependent on
monopolies.
In the past, the oil industry was much less a vertically integrated
monopoly but govt has driven it to bcome so.

Once again, the BIG Oil Companies OWN the government.




Bull****!!! Chevron Richmond Refinery is trying to expand and be able to
process heavier crude. The local enviros, and city are tossing lots of
roadblocks in the way. Maybe if they pay a bunch of money to the Rainbow
Coalition, or some enviro group they will get the permits. How about
letting them build a refinery in your neighborhood? Chevron and Texaco
merged just like a lot of other oil companies a few years ago because they
were making about 2% ROI. You must have not paid attention in Economics
101.

On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:40:24 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:26:29 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Sep 13, 10:55 am, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:02:42 -0700 (PDT),
penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of
rec.boats:

I was supposed to go help with a sailboat race (cant sail cuz I messed
up my back) but cannot get any gas for the boat due to the shut down
refineries cuz a certain political faction won't allow more refineries
to be built thus putting 1/4 of our nations refining capacity at risk
in a naturall disaster like Ike. So, this IS about boating and my not
going boating due to idiocy of certain politicos.

Another incredibly specious post.

Oil companies, themselves, have limited the available supply of fuel.
They aren't stupid, they are just greedy.... they've purposefully
drastically reduced the available refining capacity (supply), thence
driven prices sky high, and reaped record profits for their
shareholders.

Tell me again, what is their motivation to increase supply and
decrease profits? They are corporations, they aren't there to powder
your out-of-gas buns, they are there to line the pockets of
shareholders.

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats

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Several posts form people with no knowledge of the oil business. In
the past, we had independent refineries along with those owned by the
majors. However, regulations have caused the independents to no
longer be able to meet the requirements so now we only have major
refineries. Essentially, the govt has caused monopolization by
enacting onerous licensing and regulations.

The BIG oil companies are literally writing that legislation, dopey.

If one looks, he will
also find that refineries ae all operating at over their designed
capacity these days. Govt regs have caused us to become dependent on
monopolies.
In the past, the oil industry was much less a vertically integrated
monopoly but govt has driven it to bcome so.

Once again, the BIG Oil Companies OWN the government.




Bull****!!! Chevron Richmond Refinery is trying to expand and be able to
process heavier crude. The local enviros, and city are tossing lots of
roadblocks in the way. Maybe if they pay a bunch of money to the Rainbow
Coalition, or some enviro group they will get the permits. How about
letting them build a refinery in your neighborhood? Chevron and Texaco
merged just like a lot of other oil companies a few years ago because they
were making about 2% ROI. You must have not paid attention in Economics
101.


Oh, bull****, yourself, Bill.

And, no, I wouldn't let them build a refinery in my neighborhood. It's
zoned residential anyway, jellobrain..

wrote in message
...
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:40:24 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:26:29 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Sep 13, 10:55 am, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:02:42 -0700 (PDT),
penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of
rec.boats:

I was supposed to go help with a sailboat race (cant sail cuz I
messed
up my back) but cannot get any gas for the boat due to the shut down
refineries cuz a certain political faction won't allow more
refineries
to be built thus putting 1/4 of our nations refining capacity at risk
in a naturall disaster like Ike. So, this IS about boating and my
not
going boating due to idiocy of certain politicos.

Another incredibly specious post.

Oil companies, themselves, have limited the available supply of fuel.
They aren't stupid, they are just greedy.... they've purposefully
drastically reduced the available refining capacity (supply), thence
driven prices sky high, and reaped record profits for their
shareholders.

Tell me again, what is their motivation to increase supply and
decrease profits? They are corporations, they aren't there to powder
your out-of-gas buns, they are there to line the pockets of
shareholders.

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats

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Several posts form people with no knowledge of the oil business. In
the past, we had independent refineries along with those owned by the
majors. However, regulations have caused the independents to no
longer be able to meet the requirements so now we only have major
refineries. Essentially, the govt has caused monopolization by
enacting onerous licensing and regulations.

The BIG oil companies are literally writing that legislation, dopey.

If one looks, he will
also find that refineries ae all operating at over their designed
capacity these days. Govt regs have caused us to become dependent on
monopolies.
In the past, the oil industry was much less a vertically integrated
monopoly but govt has driven it to bcome so.

Once again, the BIG Oil Companies OWN the government.




Bull****!!! Chevron Richmond Refinery is trying to expand and be able to
process heavier crude. The local enviros, and city are tossing lots of
roadblocks in the way. Maybe if they pay a bunch of money to the Rainbow
Coalition, or some enviro group they will get the permits. How about
letting them build a refinery in your neighborhood? Chevron and Texaco
merged just like a lot of other oil companies a few years ago because they
were making about 2% ROI. You must have not paid attention in Economics
101.


Oh, bull****, yourself, Bill.

And, no, I wouldn't let them build a refinery in my neighborhood. It's
zoned residential anyway, jellobrain..




You are the one who wants new refineries. Lots of good paying (union) jobs.
Rezone your neighborhood.