Ed Huntress wrote:

"Ray Fischer" wrote in message
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Ed Huntress wrote:
"Curly Surmudgeon" wrote in message

Lets not get sidetracked into the health insurance debate for it masks
the
underlying problem. The fundamental problem is that our health care
system has been hijacked by corporate powers making healthcare too
expensive.

Nonsense. The main thing that makes it so expensive is that medical
technology marches forward, not backward, and there's always more stuff to
apply to medical problems -- increasingly expensive stuff.

That would be a better argument if not for the fact that US healthcare
is the most expensive in the world. Americans pay 50% more then the
next most expensive industrial nation.

Right. It's the most expensive, and, for those who can afford it, the most
effective. The reason it doesn't look very effective in the statistics is
that a lot of people can't afford it.

Is that an example of right-wing doublethink?

And it marches forward because people will pay for it, as an alternative
to
living in misery or dying. There's always a ready market for new drugs and
new medical technology.

Meanwhile Americans have shorter lifespans and higher infant
mortality.

See above. Things are pretty ducky if you have a few million or more. That's
why even heads of state and foreign corporations come here to get some of
their operations. We're especially good at neurosurgery and plastic surgery.
Our nose jobs can't be beat.

Ah. Social darwinism. Eliminate the poor.

--
Ray Fischer

"Ray Fischer" wrote in message
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Ed Huntress wrote:

"Ray Fischer" wrote in message
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Ed Huntress wrote:
"Curly Surmudgeon" wrote in message

Lets not get sidetracked into the health insurance debate for it masks
the
underlying problem. The fundamental problem is that our health care
system has been hijacked by corporate powers making healthcare too
expensive.

Nonsense. The main thing that makes it so expensive is that medical
technology marches forward, not backward, and there's always more stuff
to
apply to medical problems -- increasingly expensive stuff.

That would be a better argument if not for the fact that US healthcare
is the most expensive in the world. Americans pay 50% more then the
next most expensive industrial nation.

Right. It's the most expensive, and, for those who can afford it, the most
effective. The reason it doesn't look very effective in the statistics is
that a lot of people can't afford it.

Is that an example of right-wing doublethink?

Oh, I don't think there's doublethink involved. As we can see from some of
the postings here, some of the right-wingers really don't care that there
are many people who are uninsured. To them, those people who can't afford
the extra $15,000/yr. or so should have thought of that when they were in
middle school, or they should have chosen their parents more responsibly, so
they'd be making that much more money now. As far as they're concerned,
those irresponsible oafs are just screwing up the statistics for the rest of
us.


And it marches forward because people will pay for it, as an alternative
to
living in misery or dying. There's always a ready market for new drugs
and
new medical technology.

Meanwhile Americans have shorter lifespans and higher infant
mortality.

See above. Things are pretty ducky if you have a few million or more.
That's
why even heads of state and foreign corporations come here to get some of
their operations. We're especially good at neurosurgery and plastic
surgery.
Our nose jobs can't be beat.

Ah. Social darwinism. Eliminate the poor.

Well, it would make the statistics look a lot better.

--
Ed Huntress