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Eisboch September 12th 08 01:42 AM

Severe galvanic corrosion video
 

"John H." wrote in message
...

Before my time. I had no problems with my outdrive, but I didn't keep my
boat in a slip either.

I like having the boat on a trailer, in my driveway!
--
John H.



Nothing wrong with that. But to me, I always enjoyed having a boat
permanently in a slip, even the smaller boats.
My first ocean boat was a 20 or 22 foot (forget which) Regal with a cuddy
cabin. That was back in 1994. Slips are hard to come by in this area and I
was fortunate enough to be offered one, so I grabbed it. Once you have one,
you keep it each season until you give it up or outgrow it. I only had
that boat for one season, then "upgraded" to an old 26' Century Express.
Had a lot of fun with that boat, even though it had many problems requiring
attention, and never quite ran right. It had a cozy cabin, head, small
galley, etc. After a day of boating, returning to the slip and "camping"
overnight was very enjoyable. Dock neighbors were always around and we had
a good time. Of course I was 14 years younger at the time and could handle
the nightly dock parties.
Now, I watch TV and fall asleep.

Went through a succession of ever increasing sized boats .... until we maxed
out with the Navigator at 52' LOA. Took that to Florida at the end of the
first season of ownership and the trip was probably one of the most
challenging but totally enjoyable adventures I've ever done. I'll always
have warm memories of that voyage. I was a newbie to larger boats and to
open ocean and ICW navigation. It was quite the learning experience.

Don't know what the future may hold. The boat I have now is not really
ideal for long range cruising, but is fine for day trips to the Vineyard or
to fairly nearby destinations. I still totally enjoy just being on it, at
the slip, for a couple of days at a time though.

Sorta like camping, but with much more comfort and privacy.

Eisboch



Don White September 12th 08 02:16 AM

Severe galvanic corrosion video
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:21:54 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:57:12 GMT, "Chuck" wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHxFXcGv_Uc

This is bad for an 06 Model!

That is atrocious.
--
John H.



I seem to have a hazy memory of Mercruiser outdrives having a similar
problem for a short period of time.
The cause was the same... the paint used had been changed, either for
"improvement" or, I seem to recall environmental reasons.
Whatever it was, the problem was resolved.

Eisboch


Before my time. I had no problems with my outdrive, but I didn't keep my
boat in a slip either.

I like having the boat on a trailer, in my driveway!
--
John H.


Wonder what the neighbours think of that?
You wouldn't get away with that in WayneDs community.



John H.[_5_] September 12th 08 02:54 AM

Severe galvanic corrosion video
 
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:42:06 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .

Before my time. I had no problems with my outdrive, but I didn't keep my
boat in a slip either.

I like having the boat on a trailer, in my driveway!
--
John H.



Nothing wrong with that. But to me, I always enjoyed having a boat
permanently in a slip, even the smaller boats.
My first ocean boat was a 20 or 22 foot (forget which) Regal with a cuddy
cabin. That was back in 1994. Slips are hard to come by in this area and I
was fortunate enough to be offered one, so I grabbed it. Once you have one,
you keep it each season until you give it up or outgrow it. I only had
that boat for one season, then "upgraded" to an old 26' Century Express.
Had a lot of fun with that boat, even though it had many problems requiring
attention, and never quite ran right. It had a cozy cabin, head, small
galley, etc. After a day of boating, returning to the slip and "camping"
overnight was very enjoyable. Dock neighbors were always around and we had
a good time. Of course I was 14 years younger at the time and could handle
the nightly dock parties.
Now, I watch TV and fall asleep.

Went through a succession of ever increasing sized boats .... until we maxed
out with the Navigator at 52' LOA. Took that to Florida at the end of the
first season of ownership and the trip was probably one of the most
challenging but totally enjoyable adventures I've ever done. I'll always
have warm memories of that voyage. I was a newbie to larger boats and to
open ocean and ICW navigation. It was quite the learning experience.

Don't know what the future may hold. The boat I have now is not really
ideal for long range cruising, but is fine for day trips to the Vineyard or
to fairly nearby destinations. I still totally enjoy just being on it, at
the slip, for a couple of days at a time though.

Sorta like camping, but with much more comfort and privacy.

Eisboch


If you enjoy it, that's what counts. My wife and I are having a kick with
the new trailer. We went to an RV show in Baltimore today. Saw a lot of
nice RVs, but nothing I couldn't do without. Roadtrek had it's new
Sprinter based class B there, which was beautiful. The same dealer was
selling the Fleetwood Icon, another Sprinter based motorhome.
http://www.fleetwoodrv.com/icon/ Very nice, and the price was the same as
the Roadtrek RS Adventurous http://tinyurl.com/4tglxr , which is similar to
yours. It was priced about the same as the Fleetwood.

I asked the salesman why the Class B was the same price as the Class C,
which had more room, amenities, etc. His answer was, "Because the Roadtrek
can be parked anywhere, whereas the Fleetwood violates restrictions in a
lot of areas." Interesting. He would have been correct in my neighborhood.

--
John H.

Chuck September 12th 08 02:56 AM

Severe galvanic corrosion video
 

"JimH" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:01:33 GMT, "Chuck" wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
m...
wrote:
On Sep 11, 12:10 pm, hk wrote:
Chuck wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHxFXcGv_Uc
This is bad for an 06 Model!
You have any idea why this is happening?

My guess would be shore power


In the absence of anything else, I was going to guess stray currents
(which may well be from shore power) from the boat of a boater in a
nearby
slip or dock.

Yet another reason to avoid outdrives! :)


Good guess but not in this case. No shore power, nobody nearby with shore
power, no stray currents etc. Volvo-Penta says they had a bonding or
adhesion problem with the paint they used on some recent outdrives. We
are
working with them to get it repainted.


Were all the anodes in place and properly installed?


Yes... all sal****er zinc anodes, grounding straps etc. This boat is on a
boatlift 85% of the time which makes the thing worse. I am beyond words...


HK September 12th 08 03:03 AM

Severe galvanic corrosion video
 
John H. wrote:



If you enjoy it, that's what counts. My wife and I are having a kick with
the new trailer. We went to an RV show in Baltimore today. Saw a lot of
nice RVs, but nothing I couldn't do without. Roadtrek had it's new
Sprinter based class B there, which was beautiful. The same dealer was
selling the Fleetwood Icon, another Sprinter based motorhome.
http://www.fleetwoodrv.com/icon/ Very nice, and the price was the same as
the Roadtrek RS Adventurous http://tinyurl.com/4tglxr , which is similar to
yours. It was priced about the same as the Fleetwood.

I asked the salesman why the Class B was the same price as the Class C,
which had more room, amenities, etc. His answer was, "Because the Roadtrek
can be parked anywhere, whereas the Fleetwood violates restrictions in a
lot of areas." Interesting. He would have been correct in my neighborhood.



rec.rv

Chuck September 13th 08 12:44 AM

Severe galvanic corrosion video
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Chuck wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Sep 11, 12:10 pm, hk wrote:
Chuck wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHxFXcGv_Uc
This is bad for an 06 Model!
You have any idea why this is happening?

My guess would be shore power


In the absence of anything else, I was going to guess stray currents
(which may well be from shore power) from the boat of a boater in a
nearby slip or dock.

Yet another reason to avoid outdrives! :)


Good guess but not in this case. No shore power, nobody nearby with
shore power, no stray currents etc. Volvo-Penta says they had a bonding
or adhesion problem with the paint they used on some recent outdrives.
We are working with them to get it repainted.



Ahhh...boating esoterica...my favorite category! No parts need replacing?

The question I need answered is what to do about it. Volvo-Penta says it's
out of warranty after 1 year and its my problem now! That wrong to treat a
customer that way who bought a $35,000 Chaparral boat!


RPSIII September 13th 08 01:58 AM

Severe galvanic corrosion video
 
Chuck wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Chuck wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Sep 11, 12:10 pm, hk wrote:
Chuck wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHxFXcGv_Uc
This is bad for an 06 Model!
You have any idea why this is happening?

My guess would be shore power


In the absence of anything else, I was going to guess stray currents
(which may well be from shore power) from the boat of a boater in a
nearby slip or dock.

Yet another reason to avoid outdrives! :)

Good guess but not in this case. No shore power, nobody nearby with
shore power, no stray currents etc. Volvo-Penta says they had a
bonding or adhesion problem with the paint they used on some recent
outdrives. We are working with them to get it repainted.



Ahhh...boating esoterica...my favorite category! No parts need replacing?

The question I need answered is what to do about it. Volvo-Penta says
it's out of warranty after 1 year and its my problem now! That wrong to
treat a customer that way who bought a $35,000 Chaparral boat!


Talk to your dealer and mfg'er about giving you a free or one hell of a
good deal on prepping, priming and repainting the outdrive. The mfg'er
is in a better position to negotiate with Volvo, and the mfg'er and
dealer are not interested in bad PR, so you really should be excellent
position for a free paint job, or one at nominal cost.

I would emphasize that they have an opportunity to highlight their
quality and customer service, and you would be a great salesman for
their product. At a last resort, I would let them know that if they
refuse to help, you will put on a major push to highlight your problem
with your dealer, mfg'er and Volvo. Including posts on every
boating/fishing forum you can. I would also contact the local TV
consumer advocate and Boat/US Dept. of Consumer Affairs. I had a minor
problem with a new boat, and after sending a letter to the President of
the company, he called me and after some negotiating, agreed to all of
my requests. It was a win/win situation.

Chuck September 15th 08 01:21 AM

Severe galvanic corrosion video
 

"RPSIII" wrote in message
. com...
Chuck wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Chuck wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Sep 11, 12:10 pm, hk wrote:
Chuck wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHxFXcGv_Uc
This is bad for an 06 Model!
You have any idea why this is happening?

My guess would be shore power


In the absence of anything else, I was going to guess stray currents
(which may well be from shore power) from the boat of a boater in a
nearby slip or dock.

Yet another reason to avoid outdrives! :)

Good guess but not in this case. No shore power, nobody nearby with
shore power, no stray currents etc. Volvo-Penta says they had a
bonding or adhesion problem with the paint they used on some recent
outdrives. We are working with them to get it repainted.


Ahhh...boating esoterica...my favorite category! No parts need
replacing?

The question I need answered is what to do about it. Volvo-Penta says
it's out of warranty after 1 year and its my problem now! That wrong to
treat a customer that way who bought a $35,000 Chaparral boat!


Talk to your dealer and mfg'er about giving you a free or one hell of a
good deal on prepping, priming and repainting the outdrive. The mfg'er is
in a better position to negotiate with Volvo, and the mfg'er and dealer
are not interested in bad PR, so you really should be excellent position
for a free paint job, or one at nominal cost.

I would emphasize that they have an opportunity to highlight their quality
and customer service, and you would be a great salesman for their product.
At a last resort, I would let them know that if they refuse to help, you
will put on a major push to highlight your problem with your dealer,
mfg'er and Volvo. Including posts on every boating/fishing forum you can.
I would also contact the local TV consumer advocate and Boat/US Dept. of
Consumer Affairs. I had a minor problem with a new boat, and after
sending a letter to the President of the company, he called me and after
some negotiating, agreed to all of my requests. It was a win/win
situation.


AN EXCELLENT ANSWER. THANKS!!



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