On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:28:02 -0400, HK wrote:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:11:39 -0400, John H penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m

Looks like a bunch of political crap, to me.....


But as long as it is *their* crap, the BORGmen think it is fine to post
in here.

Along with the guitar crap, the golf crap, the cloned grandchildren
crap, et cetera.

Hey, give them a break........they are really trying to improve the
quality of this boating NG.

How funny.

JimH wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:28:02 -0400, HK wrote:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:11:39 -0400, John H penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m
Looks like a bunch of political crap, to me.....

But as long as it is *their* crap, the BORGmen think it is fine to post
in here.

Along with the guitar crap, the golf crap, the cloned grandchildren
crap, et cetera.

Hey, give them a break........they are really trying to improve the
quality of this boating NG.

How funny.


It is kind of funny how that the Seven Little Schitts think that a
newsgroup with virtually *nothing* being posted is an improvement, or
that JustWait describing how he plans to bounce a boat off a trailer is
the sort of interesting boating "advice" that might prove useful to others.

BTW, did you know that Herring is taking golf lessons?

What's next, a photo of a zit on the face of one of his cloned
grandchildren?

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:50:15 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

wrote in message
news On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:16:46 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
You need to change your hearing aid batteries. The redistribution
O'Reilly
talked about is the redistribution Obama talks about continuously.
The
middle class tax cut (which we know is bull****) would be financed by
an
upper income tax increase.

If that's not redistribution, what is. Obama's answer to O'Reilly's
question was, "We can afford it." Why should those who have earned
their
money give it away?


This is one of the most important faults of the left wing,
semi-socialist
Obama economic theory.

A person (or persons) who go out and create something of value don't
do so
at the expense of those that don't or can't.
There is no finite amount of value or wealth to be "grabbed". It is
created.
Oh bull****. Do you deny that slavery was used to build this country
from the beginning?

Nope. Slavery was mostly indentured servants at first. And only 26% of
the people in NC owned slaves. A minority of people. Slavery was
almost done because of the finances. Cost more to own a slave than they
produced. Only thing that kept slavery in the end was Eli Whitney and
the Cotton Gin. Made it financially viable to own slaves. Most of the
country was built on the backs of regular working people! Actually the
misfits who populated this country and took chances building a life for
themselves were the builders of this country. Do you say England was
build on slavery? Was legal there until about 1833.

WOW are YOU ever in denial.




He must have been programmed. No rational person could believe that pile
of bull****.


You are Salty are the non rational people. You mean the US would not have
built without slavery. Un-fricken-believable!

Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:50:15 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

wrote in message
news On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:16:46 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
You need to change your hearing aid batteries. The redistribution
O'Reilly
talked about is the redistribution Obama talks about continuously.
The
middle class tax cut (which we know is bull****) would be financed by
an
upper income tax increase.

If that's not redistribution, what is. Obama's answer to O'Reilly's
question was, "We can afford it." Why should those who have earned
their
money give it away?

This is one of the most important faults of the left wing,
semi-socialist
Obama economic theory.

A person (or persons) who go out and create something of value don't
do so
at the expense of those that don't or can't.
There is no finite amount of value or wealth to be "grabbed". It is
created.
Oh bull****. Do you deny that slavery was used to build this country
from the beginning?
Nope. Slavery was mostly indentured servants at first. And only 26% of
the people in NC owned slaves. A minority of people. Slavery was
almost done because of the finances. Cost more to own a slave than they
produced. Only thing that kept slavery in the end was Eli Whitney and
the Cotton Gin. Made it financially viable to own slaves. Most of the
country was built on the backs of regular working people! Actually the
misfits who populated this country and took chances building a life for
themselves were the builders of this country. Do you say England was
build on slavery? Was legal there until about 1833.
WOW are YOU ever in denial.



He must have been programmed. No rational person could believe that pile
of bull****.


You are Salty are the non rational people. You mean the US would not have
built without slavery. Un-fricken-believable!



Slavery and indentured servitude were what made some colonists and
citizens rich and built some of our early infrastructure, and let's not
forget child labor and sweatshops. The haves have always exploited the
have-nots in this country.

On Sep 10, 9:13*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:

You are Salty are the non rational people. *You mean the US would not have
built without slavery. *Un-fricken-believable!-

Here is a possible solution for you, not sure if you saw this thread
yet..

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...34881f48773a0#

If so, sorry for bringing it up again, but it seems to be working
well, even some old faces are showing up and staying on...

wrote:
On Sep 10, 9:13 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:

You are Salty are the non rational people. You mean the US would not have
built without slavery. Un-fricken-believable!-

Here is a possible solution for you, not sure if you saw this thread
yet..

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...34881f48773a0#

If so, sorry for bringing it up again, but it seems to be working
well, even some old faces are showing up and staying on...


Working well means virtually no posts, and even fewer informative or
interesting boating-related posts, but we did learn today that even with
lessons Herring can't play golf and is still planning to move sometime
to the Carolinas.

The question is, when JustWait bounces that boat off its trailer, will
it crack? :)

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:13:14 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:50:15 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

wrote in message
news On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:16:46 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
You need to change your hearing aid batteries. The redistribution
O'Reilly
talked about is the redistribution Obama talks about continuously.
The
middle class tax cut (which we know is bull****) would be financed by
an
upper income tax increase.

If that's not redistribution, what is. Obama's answer to O'Reilly's
question was, "We can afford it." Why should those who have earned
their
money give it away?


This is one of the most important faults of the left wing,
semi-socialist
Obama economic theory.

A person (or persons) who go out and create something of value don't
do so
at the expense of those that don't or can't.
There is no finite amount of value or wealth to be "grabbed". It is
created.
Oh bull****. Do you deny that slavery was used to build this country
from the beginning?

Nope. Slavery was mostly indentured servants at first. And only 26% of
the people in NC owned slaves. A minority of people. Slavery was
almost done because of the finances. Cost more to own a slave than they
produced. Only thing that kept slavery in the end was Eli Whitney and
the Cotton Gin. Made it financially viable to own slaves. Most of the
country was built on the backs of regular working people! Actually the
misfits who populated this country and took chances building a life for
themselves were the builders of this country. Do you say England was
build on slavery? Was legal there until about 1833.

WOW are YOU ever in denial.




He must have been programmed. No rational person could believe that pile
of bull****.


You are Salty are the non rational people. You mean the US would not have
built without slavery. Un-fricken-believable!


alcohol is clearly not your friend.

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:11:47 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Sep 10, 9:13*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:

You are Salty are the non rational people. *You mean the US would not have
built without slavery. *Un-fricken-believable!-

Here is a possible solution for you, not sure if you saw this thread
yet..

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...34881f48773a0#

If so, sorry for bringing it up again, but it seems to be working
well, even some old faces are showing up and staying on...

Thanks for the attention, Scotty-Potty! I realize you had to go back
on your word to mention me in a post, so I really apprciate it!

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:21:29 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:11:39 -0400, John H penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m

Looks like a bunch of political crap, to me.....

Didn't notice. I was just commenting on the quality of the prose!

:)
--
John H.

On Sep 10, 9:52*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:38:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

've seen pontoons on Carlyle stand some pretty good chop. White caps?
er... I don't think so. But there is a fella that has made a curved
aluminuum plate that lips up between the toons and will sled over the
tall chops , so waves don't go flushing over the floor. I wish I had a
pic of it to post so all could get a good grasp of the idea.

I saw a boston Whaler down in the keys (Grassy Key campground) that
they had cut off most of the bow rise and glassed in a flat deck to
use as a fish guts dumping boat. They had a horizontal fin across the
front for the same reason. This thing would hook a wave and go under
but the fin popped the bow back up.
I thought the same idea would work on a pontoon. I know I have been
caught out in mine and they do tend to *want to "dive and level off at
periscope depth" when the forward deck goes under. The ones with the
playpen all the way forward just crash into the sea and drown you. I
have seen the sheet metal blown out of the track. Usually what happens
is they pitch down so bad the prop comes out of the water and you pop
backwards. You can get around it by quartering the sea and
ballasting/motoring your boat to hold the fore most pontoon as high as
you can get it. It is still going to be a wet ride because when that
corner comes up it throws a bucket of water over everyone. You can get
back OK if you take it slow and easy, trying to work with the sea, and
not fight it too much.

Yes, the high wind waves can be troublesome. In those situations,
would a tri-toon be better?