A real mom speaks out
 

D.Duck wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Unexpurgated comment from a real mom

as a pro-choice mother of teenage boys, the fundamentalist view being
portrayed nationwide as this teen pregnancy being hailed as a "blessed
event" scares the sh** out of me. i live in a rural area that has one of
the state's highest teen pregnancy rates. this has been discussed openly
in our home because i have witnessed over and over the "joy" little girls
portray as they drop out of school and push their baby carriages around
town. i have seen the young men drop out of school, get a job to buy
diapers just because they had unprotected sex. i have always encouraged my
boys to wait to have sex, but i know there are families out there,just
like the palins, that will throw a big party for the child-mom who
"chooses" to have the baby. i am scared to death of the teen girls who are
watching who are hearing just what they want to hear - go ahead - get
pregnant. my boys have access to condoms, and i sure hope they use them.
and, i can guarantee i keep a closer eye on my boys than sarah palin
apparently kept on her daughter. and, even if this pretty young couple
gets married, i suppose we'll see another chapter of their "normal" family
when they divorce in 3-5 years.

How do we know that you didn't author this little snippet?



I'm not a mom.

A real mom speaks out
 

D.Duck wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Unexpurgated comment from a real mom

as a pro-choice mother of teenage boys, the fundamentalist view being
portrayed nationwide as this teen pregnancy being hailed as a "blessed
event" scares the sh** out of me. i live in a rural area that has one of
the state's highest teen pregnancy rates. this has been discussed openly
in our home because i have witnessed over and over the "joy" little girls
portray as they drop out of school and push their baby carriages around
town. i have seen the young men drop out of school, get a job to buy
diapers just because they had unprotected sex. i have always encouraged my
boys to wait to have sex, but i know there are families out there,just
like the palins, that will throw a big party for the child-mom who
"chooses" to have the baby. i am scared to death of the teen girls who are
watching who are hearing just what they want to hear - go ahead - get
pregnant. my boys have access to condoms, and i sure hope they use them.
and, i can guarantee i keep a closer eye on my boys than sarah palin
apparently kept on her daughter. and, even if this pretty young couple
gets married, i suppose we'll see another chapter of their "normal" family
when they divorce in 3-5 years.

How do we know that you didn't author this little snippet?



http://tinyurl.com/58x4jq

It's there.

And it's right on.

We're facing a future of an increase in the number of pregnant unmarried
girls who will be following the Palin example. Bet on it.

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 13:42:16 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

BTW ..... nice try in your attempt to start a bonifide, on-topic, boating
related thread regarding the boat painting.
I've often heard of the "roll and tip" method and have seen the impressive
results, but had never done it or even understood it.

It piqued my curiosity too, since I had never heard of it and used to
do house painting with my brother, who was a pro for many years.
Good excuse to call him.
He never heard of it either, but has used the tipping part when
lacquering furniture to get it mirror-like.
Just doesn't apply to house painting.
But I did get to reminisce about Wooster hog bristles.

--Vic


Harry uses very special interior house latex of course. Custom blended just
for him. Roll and tip he says.

Anyway, I have a friend who hand painted the topsides of an old, '72
Hatteras last summer. He used one of the popular boat paints (forget which
one), studied up on and then used the "roll and tip" method. He sanded
between coats, using very, very fine paper.

It came out absolutely beautiful .... almost flawless. Deep shine with no
indication at all that is was not a professional spray paint job. No runs.
No roll or brush strokes anywhere.

Eisboch

A real mom speaks out
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
D.Duck wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Unexpurgated comment from a real mom

as a pro-choice mother of teenage boys, the fundamentalist view being
portrayed nationwide as this teen pregnancy being hailed as a "blessed
event" scares the sh** out of me. i live in a rural area that has one of
the state's highest teen pregnancy rates. this has been discussed openly
in our home because i have witnessed over and over the "joy" little
girls portray as they drop out of school and push their baby carriages
around town. i have seen the young men drop out of school, get a job to
buy diapers just because they had unprotected sex. i have always
encouraged my boys to wait to have sex, but i know there are families
out there,just like the palins, that will throw a big party for the
child-mom who "chooses" to have the baby. i am scared to death of the
teen girls who are watching who are hearing just what they want to
hear - go ahead - get pregnant. my boys have access to condoms, and i
sure hope they use them. and, i can guarantee i keep a closer eye on my
boys than sarah palin apparently kept on her daughter. and, even if this
pretty young couple gets married, i suppose we'll see another chapter of
their "normal" family when they divorce in 3-5 years.

How do we know that you didn't author this little snippet?

http://tinyurl.com/58x4jq

It's there.

And it's right on.

We're facing a future of an increase in the number of pregnant unmarried
girls who will be following the Palin example. Bet on it.

Unwed mother pregnancies have been on the increase for years. Can any
political leaning claim the highest occurrences?

A real mom speaks out
 

D.Duck wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
D.Duck wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Unexpurgated comment from a real mom

as a pro-choice mother of teenage boys, the fundamentalist view being
portrayed nationwide as this teen pregnancy being hailed as a "blessed
event" scares the sh** out of me. i live in a rural area that has one of
the state's highest teen pregnancy rates. this has been discussed openly
in our home because i have witnessed over and over the "joy" little
girls portray as they drop out of school and push their baby carriages
around town. i have seen the young men drop out of school, get a job to
buy diapers just because they had unprotected sex. i have always
encouraged my boys to wait to have sex, but i know there are families
out there,just like the palins, that will throw a big party for the
child-mom who "chooses" to have the baby. i am scared to death of the
teen girls who are watching who are hearing just what they want to
hear - go ahead - get pregnant. my boys have access to condoms, and i
sure hope they use them. and, i can guarantee i keep a closer eye on my
boys than sarah palin apparently kept on her daughter. and, even if this
pretty young couple gets married, i suppose we'll see another chapter of
their "normal" family when they divorce in 3-5 years.
How do we know that you didn't author this little snippet?
http://tinyurl.com/58x4jq

It's there.

And it's right on.

We're facing a future of an increase in the number of pregnant unmarried
girls who will be following the Palin example. Bet on it.

Unwed mother pregnancies have been on the increase for years. Can any
political leaning claim the highest occurrences?




I believe they're down by more than 40% in California, where the schools
teach sex ed and contraception. In Texas, where they teach abstinence,
they're up substantially.

Check those stats...I'm sure you can find them.

The teenage birth rate in the United States is the highest in the
developed world, and the teenage abortion rate is also high.[3] The U.S.
teenage pregnancy rate was at a high in the 1950s and has decreased
since then, although there has been an increase in births out of
wedlock.[11] The teenage pregnancy rate decreased significantly in the
1990s; this decline manifested across all racial groups, although
teenagers of African-American and Hispanic descent retain a higher rate,
in comparison to that of European-Americans and Asian-Americans.
**********The Guttmacher Institute attributed about 25% of the decline
to abstinence and 75% to the effective use of
contraceptives.**********[12] [13] However, as of 2006 the teenage birth
rate began to rise once again for the first time in fourteen years.[14]
This could imply that teen pregnancy rates are also on the rise, however
the rise could also be due to other sources: a possible decrease in the
number of abortions or a decrease in the number of miscarraiges, to name
a few. The Canadian teenage birth has also trended towards a steady
decline for both younger (15-17) and older (18-19) teens in the period
between 1992-2002.[15]

3 a b c d e f g h UNICEF. (2001). A League Table of Teenage Births in
Rich NationsPDF (888 KiB). Retrieved July 7, 2006.

11 ^ guttmacher.org
12 ^ U.S. Teenage Pregnancy Rate Drops For 10th Straight Year."
Retrieved July 7, 2006.
13^ Wind, Rebecca. The Guttmacher Institute. (February 19, 2004).
14^ Teen Birth Rates Up for First Time in 14 Years, U.S. Reports
15 ^ Dryburgh, H. (2002). Teenage pregnancy. Health Reports, 12 (1),
9-18; Statistics Canada . (2005). Health Indicators, 2005, 2. Retrieved
from Facts and Statistics: Sexual Health and Canadian Youth - Teen
Pregnancy Rates
16^ a b Beginning Too Soon: Adolescent Sexual Behavior, Pregnancy And
Parenthood, US Department of Health and Human Services, Retrieved
January 25, 2007
17^ a b Teenage Mothers : Decisions and Outcomes - Provides a unique
review of how teenage mothers think Policy Studies Institute, University
of Westminster, 30 Oct 1998
18 ^ Guttmacher Institute. (2005). Sex and Relationships. Retrieved
August 8, 2006.
19 ^ a b U.S.Teen Sexual ActivityPDF (147 KiB) Kaiser Family Foundation,
January 2005. Retrieved 23 Jan 2007


Note the cite about abstinence versus contraceptives. Contraceptives
usually work. Abstinence education usually does not.

A real mom speaks out
 

On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 20:13:39 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
...
D.Duck wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Unexpurgated comment from a real mom

as a pro-choice mother of teenage boys, the fundamentalist view being
portrayed nationwide as this teen pregnancy being hailed as a "blessed
event" scares the sh** out of me. i live in a rural area that has one of
the state's highest teen pregnancy rates. this has been discussed openly
in our home because i have witnessed over and over the "joy" little
girls portray as they drop out of school and push their baby carriages
around town. i have seen the young men drop out of school, get a job to
buy diapers just because they had unprotected sex. i have always
encouraged my boys to wait to have sex, but i know there are families
out there,just like the palins, that will throw a big party for the
child-mom who "chooses" to have the baby. i am scared to death of the
teen girls who are watching who are hearing just what they want to
hear - go ahead - get pregnant. my boys have access to condoms, and i
sure hope they use them. and, i can guarantee i keep a closer eye on my
boys than sarah palin apparently kept on her daughter. and, even if this
pretty young couple gets married, i suppose we'll see another chapter of
their "normal" family when they divorce in 3-5 years.

How do we know that you didn't author this little snippet?

http://tinyurl.com/58x4jq

It's there.

And it's right on.

We're facing a future of an increase in the number of pregnant unmarried
girls who will be following the Palin example. Bet on it.

Unwed mother pregnancies have been on the increase for years. Can any
political leaning claim the highest occurrences?


Yes. The rate in Washington DC is in the 80% range. No more need be said.

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On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:28:12 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

It piqued my curiosity too, since I had never heard of it and used to
do house painting with my brother, who was a pro for many years.
Good excuse to call him.
He never heard of it either, but has used the tipping part when
lacquering furniture to get it mirror-like.
Just doesn't apply to house painting.
But I did get to reminisce about Wooster hog bristles.

--Vic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTVVjzbA72U

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On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 20:05:48 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 13:42:16 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

BTW ..... nice try in your attempt to start a bonifide, on-topic, boating
related thread regarding the boat painting.
I've often heard of the "roll and tip" method and have seen the impressive
results, but had never done it or even understood it.

It piqued my curiosity too, since I had never heard of it and used to
do house painting with my brother, who was a pro for many years.
Good excuse to call him.
He never heard of it either, but has used the tipping part when
lacquering furniture to get it mirror-like.
Just doesn't apply to house painting.
But I did get to reminisce about Wooster hog bristles.

--Vic


Harry uses very special interior house latex of course. Custom blended just
for him. Roll and tip he says.

Anyway, I have a friend who hand painted the topsides of an old, '72
Hatteras last summer. He used one of the popular boat paints (forget which
one), studied up on and then used the "roll and tip" method. He sanded
between coats, using very, very fine paper.

It came out absolutely beautiful .... almost flawless. Deep shine with no
indication at all that is was not a professional spray paint job. No runs.
No roll or brush strokes anywhere.

Sounds like a lot of work, but apparently worth it.
I'd like to hear more from Scotty about why he used it with a
"breathable" paint. Seems to me it's aimed at hard gloss, but I'm
dumb at painting boats. Maybe the smooth finish makes is more
washable.
My brother started talking my ear off about paints, brushes, rollers,
etc, but I managed to steer him away from that into talking about
driving down to Florida with me and doing some fishing.
He's behind on the new paint formulations, but still prefers oil
outside.
There's a fine nap roller I had never heard of - already forgot what
he called it - that's real good for kitchen enamels, no tipping
necessary.
Painting can get as complicated as you want it.
Just like fishing.
But I like to sit back in a gently rocking boat with my rod between my
toes and my eyes at least half-closed.
Never managed anything close to that when I was painting, no matter
how hard I tried. Closest I got is ignore my wife until she does it
herself, but that has a lot of downsides.

--Vic

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On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:30:08 -0400, JimH wrote:

On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:28:12 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

It piqued my curiosity too, since I had never heard of it and used to
do house painting with my brother, who was a pro for many years.
Good excuse to call him.
He never heard of it either, but has used the tipping part when
lacquering furniture to get it mirror-like.
Just doesn't apply to house painting.
But I did get to reminisce about Wooster hog bristles.

--Vic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTVVjzbA72U

Definitely a technique to look into for a gloss.

--Vic

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On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:00:45 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:30:08 -0400, JimH wrote:

On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:28:12 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

It piqued my curiosity too, since I had never heard of it and used to
do house painting with my brother, who was a pro for many years.
Good excuse to call him.
He never heard of it either, but has used the tipping part when
lacquering furniture to get it mirror-like.
Just doesn't apply to house painting.
But I did get to reminisce about Wooster hog bristles.

--Vic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTVVjzbA72U

Definitely a technique to look into for a gloss.

It's been around for a while, but there is a lot of misinformation
about the technique. The video pretty much explains it perfectly.

What you want to see sometime is a crew doing roll and tip on a larger
boat. I saw a Luhrs painted with six guys from New York - it's all
they do is roll and tip hull painting. One guy did the rolling,
another the tipping and they just zipped along - painted a 40 footer
in about two hours and when all was said and done, sanded and ready to
relaunch, you'd swear the hull was brand new.

When we had our kitchen redone, I painted the walls using that
technique and the gloss was amazing.