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Don White September 3rd 08 12:10 AM

Trim correction??
 
Have I got the trim correct on my open aluminum boat?
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=nhmN5u...eature=related



Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. September 3rd 08 12:15 AM

Trim correction??
 
Don White wrote:
Have I got the trim correct on my open aluminum boat?
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=nhmN5u...eature=related



I wonder if it is safe to boat without being able to see in front of
you? ;)




[email protected] September 3rd 08 12:24 AM

Trim correction??
 
On Sep 2, 7:15*pm, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:
Don White wrote:
Have I got the trim correct on my open aluminum boat?
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=nhmN5u...eature=related


I wonder if it is safe to boat without being able to see in front of
you? *;)


Yeah, these are the folks we want to take safety advice from;) Not
even wearing a life jacket, what a puck head...

HK September 3rd 08 12:29 AM

Trim correction??
 
wrote:
On Sep 2, 7:15 pm, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:
Don White wrote:
Have I got the trim correct on my open aluminum boat?
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=nhmN5u...eature=related
I wonder if it is safe to boat without being able to see in front of
you? ;)


Yeah, these are the folks we want to take safety advice from;) Not
even wearing a life jacket, what a puck head...



Is that Tom in his etec-powered Ranger?

Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] September 3rd 08 12:47 AM

Trim correction??
 
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 20:10:33 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

Have I got the trim correct on my open aluminum boat?
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=nhmN5u...eature=related


That's hysterical. :)

Lost In Space/Woodchuck[_3_] September 3rd 08 02:45 AM

Trim correction??
 
He just needs another 100hp to bring the bow down.


"Don White" wrote in message
...
Have I got the trim correct on my open aluminum boat?
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=nhmN5u...eature=related





Tim September 3rd 08 03:02 AM

Trim correction??
 
On Sep 2, 6:10*pm, "Don White" wrote:
Have I got the trim correct on my open aluminum boat?http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=nhmN5u...eature=related


i was hopiing to watch him whack that SeaRay looking thing out there,
or plow a pylon.

[email protected] September 3rd 08 01:06 PM

Trim correction??
 
On Sep 2, 7:10*pm, "Don White" wrote:
Have I got the trim correct on my open aluminum boat?http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=nhmN5u...eature=related


Looks about right, now go try it out in some decent waves.

Don White September 3rd 08 01:16 PM

Trim correction??
 

wrote in message
...
On Sep 2, 7:10 pm, "Don White" wrote:
Have I got the trim correct on my open aluminum
boat?http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=nhmN5u...eature=related


Looks about right, now go try it out in some decent waves.


Where..on Lake Lanier where the rugged fishermen go?



Richard Casady September 3rd 08 01:29 PM

Trim correction??
 
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:15:28 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:

Don White wrote:
Have I got the trim correct on my open aluminum boat?
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=nhmN5u...eature=related



I wonder if it is safe to boat without being able to see in front of
you? ;)


It does conflict with the responsibility to keep a proper lookout. I
looked at some pix of the Emma Mxxxxx the worlds largest boxboat.
Two hundred fifty feet from the water to the deck. Hide another ship,
not just a boat, under those bows.

Casady

Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] September 3rd 08 04:09 PM

Trim correction??
 
On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:29:29 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:15:28 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:

Don White wrote:
Have I got the trim correct on my open aluminum boat?
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=nhmN5u...eature=related



I wonder if it is safe to boat without being able to see in front of
you? ;)


It does conflict with the responsibility to keep a proper lookout. I
looked at some pix of the Emma Mxxxxx the worlds largest boxboat.
Two hundred fifty feet from the water to the deck. Hide another ship,
not just a boat, under those bows.


Ok, I'll plead ignorance.

What is a box boat? I'm familiar with the J series "box" boat (I
think they call them cracker box) racers, but I have no clue what a
box boat is.

Especially one that is 250 feet high from water line to deck. :)

D.Duck September 3rd 08 04:19 PM

Trim correction??
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:29:29 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:15:28 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:

Don White wrote:
Have I got the trim correct on my open aluminum boat?
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=nhmN5u...eature=related



I wonder if it is safe to boat without being able to see in front of
you? ;)


It does conflict with the responsibility to keep a proper lookout. I
looked at some pix of the Emma Mxxxxx the worlds largest boxboat.
Two hundred fifty feet from the water to the deck. Hide another ship,
not just a boat, under those bows.


Ok, I'll plead ignorance.

What is a box boat? I'm familiar with the J series "box" boat (I
think they call them cracker box) racers, but I have no clue what a
box boat is.

Especially one that is 250 feet high from water line to deck. :)



Container ship?



Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] September 3rd 08 04:58 PM

Trim correction??
 
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 11:19:19 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:29:29 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:15:28 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:

Don White wrote:
Have I got the trim correct on my open aluminum boat?
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=nhmN5u...eature=related



I wonder if it is safe to boat without being able to see in front of
you? ;)

It does conflict with the responsibility to keep a proper lookout. I
looked at some pix of the Emma Mxxxxx the worlds largest boxboat.
Two hundred fifty feet from the water to the deck. Hide another ship,
not just a boat, under those bows.


Ok, I'll plead ignorance.

What is a box boat? I'm familiar with the J series "box" boat (I
think they call them cracker box) racers, but I have no clue what a
box boat is.

Especially one that is 250 feet high from water line to deck. :)


Container ship?


250 feet high?

That doesn't sound like much, but trust me - that's high.

D.Duck September 3rd 08 05:25 PM

Trim correction??
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 11:19:19 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:29:29 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:15:28 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:

Don White wrote:
Have I got the trim correct on my open aluminum boat?
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=nhmN5u...eature=related



I wonder if it is safe to boat without being able to see in front of
you? ;)

It does conflict with the responsibility to keep a proper lookout. I
looked at some pix of the Emma Mxxxxx the worlds largest boxboat.
Two hundred fifty feet from the water to the deck. Hide another ship,
not just a boat, under those bows.

Ok, I'll plead ignorance.

What is a box boat? I'm familiar with the J series "box" boat (I
think they call them cracker box) racers, but I have no clue what a
box boat is.

Especially one that is 250 feet high from water line to deck. :)


Container ship?


250 feet high?

That doesn't sound like much, but trust me - that's high.


Here's one 207 feet. Not sure if that's from the bottom on the keel or the
waterline. Probably from the keel.

http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/archiv...hp/t-8762.html



Don White September 3rd 08 06:02 PM

Trim correction??
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 11:19:19 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:29:29 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:15:28 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:

Don White wrote:
Have I got the trim correct on my open aluminum boat?
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=nhmN5u...eature=related



I wonder if it is safe to boat without being able to see in front of
you? ;)

It does conflict with the responsibility to keep a proper lookout. I
looked at some pix of the Emma Mxxxxx the worlds largest boxboat.
Two hundred fifty feet from the water to the deck. Hide another ship,
not just a boat, under those bows.

Ok, I'll plead ignorance.

What is a box boat? I'm familiar with the J series "box" boat (I
think they call them cracker box) racers, but I have no clue what a
box boat is.

Especially one that is 250 feet high from water line to deck. :)


Container ship?


250 feet high?

That doesn't sound like much, but trust me - that's high.


The vehicle carrier boats sure are boxy..
scroll down to 'vehicle carriers' to see recent visitors to Halifax
http://www.chesterahoy.com/SHIPS/np.htm



Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] September 3rd 08 07:14 PM

Trim correction??
 
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 12:25:25 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 11:19:19 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:29:29 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:15:28 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:

Don White wrote:
Have I got the trim correct on my open aluminum boat?
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=nhmN5u...eature=related



I wonder if it is safe to boat without being able to see in front of
you? ;)

It does conflict with the responsibility to keep a proper lookout. I
looked at some pix of the Emma Mxxxxx the worlds largest boxboat.
Two hundred fifty feet from the water to the deck. Hide another ship,
not just a boat, under those bows.

Ok, I'll plead ignorance.

What is a box boat? I'm familiar with the J series "box" boat (I
think they call them cracker box) racers, but I have no clue what a
box boat is.

Especially one that is 250 feet high from water line to deck. :)

Container ship?


250 feet high?

That doesn't sound like much, but trust me - that's high.


Here's one 207 feet. Not sure if that's from the bottom on the keel or the
waterline. Probably from the keel.

http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/archiv...hp/t-8762.html


Depth is deck-to-keel which in this case is 30 metres or 98 ft
according to the specs. There are 8 stories to the super structure
including the bridge which, if normal corridor height is followed is
just shy of 60 feet which make it in total, 162 feet in height.

That's a little short of 250 feet or 207 feet for that matter.


D.Duck September 3rd 08 08:42 PM

Trim correction??
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 12:25:25 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 11:19:19 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:29:29 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:15:28 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:

Don White wrote:
Have I got the trim correct on my open aluminum boat?
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=nhmN5u...eature=related



I wonder if it is safe to boat without being able to see in front of
you? ;)

It does conflict with the responsibility to keep a proper lookout. I
looked at some pix of the Emma Mxxxxx the worlds largest boxboat.
Two hundred fifty feet from the water to the deck. Hide another ship,
not just a boat, under those bows.

Ok, I'll plead ignorance.

What is a box boat? I'm familiar with the J series "box" boat (I
think they call them cracker box) racers, but I have no clue what a
box boat is.

Especially one that is 250 feet high from water line to deck. :)

Container ship?

250 feet high?

That doesn't sound like much, but trust me - that's high.


Here's one 207 feet. Not sure if that's from the bottom on the keel or
the
waterline. Probably from the keel.

http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/archiv...hp/t-8762.html


Depth is deck-to-keel which in this case is 30 metres or 98 ft
according to the specs. There are 8 stories to the super structure
including the bridge which, if normal corridor height is followed is
just shy of 60 feet which make it in total, 162 feet in height.

That's a little short of 250 feet or 207 feet for that matter.



Where does the 207 foot spec come from?



Richard Casady September 3rd 08 10:07 PM

Trim correction??
 
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 15:42:19 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 12:25:25 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 11:19:19 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
om...
On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:29:29 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:15:28 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:

Don White wrote:
Have I got the trim correct on my open aluminum boat?
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=nhmN5u...eature=related



I wonder if it is safe to boat without being able to see in front of
you? ;)

It does conflict with the responsibility to keep a proper lookout. I
looked at some pix of the Emma Mxxxxx the worlds largest boxboat.
Two hundred fifty feet from the water to the deck. Hide another ship,
not just a boat, under those bows.

Ok, I'll plead ignorance.

What is a box boat? I'm familiar with the J series "box" boat (I
think they call them cracker box) racers, but I have no clue what a
box boat is.

Especially one that is 250 feet high from water line to deck. :)

Container ship?

250 feet high?

That doesn't sound like much, but trust me - that's high.

Here's one 207 feet. Not sure if that's from the bottom on the keel or
the
waterline. Probably from the keel.

http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/archiv...hp/t-8762.html


Depth is deck-to-keel which in this case is 30 metres or 98 ft
according to the specs. There are 8 stories to the super structure
including the bridge which, if normal corridor height is followed is
just shy of 60 feet which make it in total, 162 feet in height.

That's a little short of 250 feet or 207 feet for that matter.



Where does the 207 foot spec come from?


The Emma Maersk is over 1300 feet long and displaces 170 000 tons.
Draft is 30 M. I can't find the web site that had the height water to
deck. I am not sure what they mean by depth at some of these websites.
Draft is waterline to keel, The depth of the hole in the water it
makes. The waterline to deck dimension is commonly called freeboard.
For completeness there is maximum height, the lowest bridge it can get
under. Sometimes they call that airdraft. From the waterline, not the
keel.

My boat is 22 foot and if it was in proportion to a ship 1300 by 250,
would have a freeboard of somewhat over 4 feet, and that is in the
ball park. I saw a picture, and the 250 figure didn't trip the BS
detector. What perhaps should have, is how do you unload it? Of
course, if it only uses two ports that's only 4 or 6 cranes that would
have to have that high.



Richard Casady September 3rd 08 10:35 PM

Trim correction??
 
On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:14:10 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Depth is deck-to-keel which in this case is 30 metres or 98 ft
according to the specs. There are 8 stories to the super structure
including the bridge which, if normal corridor height is followed is
just shy of 60 feet which make it in total, 162 feet in height.

That's a little short of 250 feet or 207 feet for that matter.


Yes, it is.
I seem to have misremembered the figure, and I have no idea where it
came from. If you scaled my runabout up to 1300 feet, it would have
250 feet of freeboard, which signifies nothing, of course.

Casady

Richard Casady September 3rd 08 11:03 PM

Trim correction??
 
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 14:02:56 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

The vehicle carrier boats sure are boxy..
scroll down to 'vehicle carriers' to see recent visitors to Halifax
http://www.chesterahoy.com/SHIPS/np.htm

Box boats carry boxes naturally, although officially they are called
containers. The ships are also boxes, of course, which figures. Those
auto carriers have even more decks than passenger ships.

Casady

otnmbrd September 4th 08 04:56 PM

Trim correction??
 
(Richard Casady) wrote in
:

On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 14:02:56 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

The vehicle carrier boats sure are boxy..
scroll down to 'vehicle carriers' to see recent visitors to Halifax
http://www.chesterahoy.com/SHIPS/np.htm

Box boats carry boxes naturally, although officially they are called
containers. The ships are also boxes, of course, which figures. Those
auto carriers have even more decks than passenger ships.

Casady


Depth is the distance from the main deck to the keel and combined with
draft will give you an indication of freeboard.
Draft is the draft at the "summer" line on the plimsol mark. To find the
main deck, look above the plimsol mark for a horizontal line @6" long 1"
wide.
Air draft is the distance from the waterline to the highest point, and is
becoming increasingly more important.
A good average for decks on a car carrier is anywhere from 10 to 13 with
some being as low as 6'

Richard Casady September 4th 08 05:19 PM

Trim correction??
 
On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 10:56:03 -0500, otnmbrd
wrote:

Air draft is the distance from the waterline to the highest point, and is
becoming increasingly more important.


Always has been important for sailboats. I have a 22 foot cuddy I plan
to fit with a radar mast, and I don't know how tall I can get away
with.

Casady


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