"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"hk" wrote in message
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What is important is McCain's health. I wonder what the longevity tables
say about a 72-year-old man who has had four bouts of cancer? My guess is
the odds are against him completing one term.


McCain's doctor for the past 16 years, an internal medicine specialist at
the Mayo Clinic in Arizona, disagrees.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar...t_cancer_free/


Eisboch

Don't confuse the issue with facts from an expert in the field.

Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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What is important is McCain's health. I wonder what the longevity tables
say about a 72-year-old man who has had four bouts of cancer? My guess is
the odds are against him completing one term.


McCain's doctor for the past 16 years, an internal medicine specialist at
the Mayo Clinic in Arizona, disagrees.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar...t_cancer_free/


Eisboch



We will see, WAFA...

On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:01:52 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
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What is important is McCain's health. I wonder what the longevity tables
say about a 72-year-old man who has had four bouts of cancer? My guess is
the odds are against him completing one term.


McCain's doctor for the past 16 years, an internal medicine specialist at
the Mayo Clinic in Arizona, disagrees.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar...t_cancer_free/


Eisboch



My 88 year old mother is in "generally good health". The rigors of
the presidency, however, take a heavy toll. A very heavy toll. I would
not be at all surprised if at some point during the campaign, McCain
has to be treated for "exhaustion". Even a very robust 72 year old may
be pushing things to do this job. Being one of 100 senators is a far
cry from being THE President.

Many believe stress often triggers cancer. Someone who has had cancer
4 times obviously is prone to developing it. Being cancer free at the
moment is great news, but it's not the whole picture.

On Aug 31, 11:07*pm, wrote:
On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 20:53:56 -0400, hk wrote:
On the other hand, McCain's military service is an non-qualifier, except
for those who think it has some meaning 35 years after the fact.

I don't think you can have it both ways. It is either not important
that {pick your chicken hawk} ducked the draft or it is important that
McCain didn't.

No, no.. Harry can be dishonest on both ends, without concience. He
can lie without remorse, again, no moral core. Whoever destroyed his
spirit really did a good job. I would have to guess it was early in
his childhood..

On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 20:19:42 -0700 (PDT),
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On Aug 31, 11:07*pm, wrote:
On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 20:53:56 -0400, hk wrote:
On the other hand, McCain's military service is an non-qualifier, except
for those who think it has some meaning 35 years after the fact.

I don't think you can have it both ways. It is either not important
that {pick your chicken hawk} ducked the draft or it is important that
McCain didn't.

No, no.. Harry can be dishonest on both ends, without concience. He
can lie without remorse, again, no moral core. Whoever destroyed his
spirit really did a good job. I would have to guess it was early in
his childhood..


Most (all) of your posts today had to do with Harry.

Get a life.

wrote:
On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 20:53:56 -0400, hk wrote:

On the other hand, McCain's military service is an non-qualifier, except
for those who think it has some meaning 35 years after the fact.

I don't think you can have it both ways. It is either not important
that {pick your chicken hawk} ducked the draft or it is important that
McCain didn't.


The chickenhawk concept came up because of the actions of certain
chickenhawks, not because of McCain.

On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 20:38:50 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:52:17 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:30:20 -0400, BAR wrote:

http://www.courant.com/news/politics...,2934547.story

I guess you are too young to remember how the draft worked in that
era. If you were enrolled as a full time student, you got that
deferment unless you requested NOT to get it. People also got defrred
for all sorts of other reasons. If you were an only child, I think
that may have been grounds for a deferment. Then there was the lottery
system. Many people got high lottery numbers and were never called.
Some rich and powerful folks could get their kids into the Air Force
reserve, guaranteeing they would never be shipped to Viet Nam. Heck,
some of them didn't even complete THAT alternative service, but were
never prosecuted.

If you are depending on that to be a "problem" for Biden, you are
really out of luck in a very big way. It's a complete non-starter.
Rush Limbaugh bellowing about it as he eats more pills isn't going to
make that into anything.


I don't think it was the II-S, even though that is what we crucify
Cheney and the rest of the "chicken hawks" over. I bet they question
the asthma. He must of got over it. He seems plenty long winded now.


I think the neo-cons are desparate for ANYTHING. If Obama was their
candidate, they would be harping on the fact that McCain broke under
torture and made statements against the U.S. They are THAT desparate.

I have a stepson who has a form of asthma that only presents when he
does strenuous excercise. The rest of the time, you would not have any
idea that there was a problem. There are also medications and inhalers
that are very effective at controlling asthma and relieving the
symptoms.

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I have a stepson who has a form of asthma that only presents when he
does strenuous excercise. The rest of the time, you would not have any
idea that there was a problem. There are also medications and inhalers
that are very effective at controlling asthma and relieving the
symptoms.


Severe asthma attacks are scary. My oldest son (35 yo) is asthmatic and has
made a few trips in the middle of the night to the emergency room at the
hospital. During his last episode, they measured his heart rate at 180
bpm, laying on the bed.

How he made it through 4 years of military service, I don't know. I know
he lied during the physical because they never would have let him join had
they known. Had he experienced attacks while serving, they would have
medically discharged him.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
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I have a stepson who has a form of asthma that only presents when he
does strenuous excercise. The rest of the time, you would not have any
idea that there was a problem. There are also medications and inhalers
that are very effective at controlling asthma and relieving the
symptoms.


Severe asthma attacks are scary. My oldest son (35 yo) is asthmatic and has
made a few trips in the middle of the night to the emergency room at the
hospital. During his last episode, they measured his heart rate at 180
bpm, laying on the bed.

How he made it through 4 years of military service, I don't know. I know
he lied during the physical because they never would have let him join had
they known. Had he experienced attacks while serving, they would have
medically discharged him.

Eisboch




Well, I'm glad your son is ok, but what he did to get into the service
is not a good thing.

"hk" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:


Severe asthma attacks are scary. My oldest son (35 yo) is asthmatic and
has made a few trips in the middle of the night to the emergency room at
the hospital. During his last episode, they measured his heart rate at
180 bpm, laying on the bed.

How he made it through 4 years of military service, I don't know. I
know he lied during the physical because they never would have let him
join had they known. Had he experienced attacks while serving, they
would have medically discharged him.

Eisboch



Well, I'm glad your son is ok, but what he did to get into the service is
not a good thing.


Maybe not, but he was highly motivated at the time to do his time. He was
also highly motivated to get out after serving his four years.

The military is full of people that technically shouldn't be there for
various reasons, but they do anyway.

Same is true of civilian employment.

Eisboch